We can only hope that RDNA3 is a worthy competitor to lower the prices.

Poor scalpers who bought them at full price

InB4 the "price cut" is with mail-in rebate, or the actual drop is to $1099 in MSRP which will change nothing.

The 4080 really should be priced no more than $800 or it is a ripoff.

It's faster than a 3090ti so at 1000 or 1100 it's reasonable.

GPU market is all over the place right now.

Although I think the price should match the 580 adjusted for inflation, anything higher than $899 is simply unreasonable. $649 would be an ideal price point.

Nvidia used RTX 4080 as a way to push RTX 4090 sales by making the top model look VFM at $1600. With RX 7000 getting released, Nvidia will just put the real price tag on that card, which probably is $1000-$1100. Let's not forget that even without RX 7000 cards as alternatives options, people where saying that RTX 4080 was overpriced and the card wasn't selling.

dgianstefaniIt's faster than a 3090ti so at 1000 or 1100 it's reasonable.

When new cards come out we expect more performance for the same cost.

john_Nvidia used RTX 4080 as a way to push RTX 4090 sales by making the top model look VFM at $1600. With RX 7000 getting released, Nvidia will just put the real price tag on that card, which probably is $1000-$1100. Let's not forget that even without RX 7000 cards as alternatives options, people where saying that RTX 4080 was overpriced and the card wasn't selling.

The 4090 got scalped, the ENTIRE 3000 series got horrendously scalped. Scalpers are a sign that the market is willing to pay more for your product than MSRP -- there's still 'meat on the bone' so to speak.

the 6500xt never got scalped and the 4080 is a pretty terrible scalper target as well, which just shows they're closer the 'actual' market price with MSRP than they were for the 4090 or Ampere.

I have a feeling there won't be many 7900 series around either. The scalping opportunity will dry up either when they supply enough cards, and saturate the market, or the price gets high enough to squeeze them out of profit -- or some combination of the two.

Yes the 7900xtx is way more aggressively priced than the 4080, but I would be shocked to see one available for purchase using meat fingers for less than $1300 in the first 6 months.

at $1199 the 4080 right now is not available around me - anything ready to buy is $100+ over msrp.

dgianstefaniIt's faster than a 3090ti so at 1000 or 1100 it's reasonable.

No it's not. 3090 was overpriced by at least $500 when it launched and the 3090Ti was overpriced by at least $800, that's assuming that the +14GB of VRAM is worth ~$200.

Title is reasonable. Green giant peaks over its fences, shows interest in marketing and availability of new red stuff at the hands of those who publish their opinions on it.
Reasonable to think that new green giant product will see a lower market price as a response

Lovec1990Poor scalpers who bought them at full price

Not only that

FeelinFroggyWe can only hope that RDNA3 is a worthy competitor to lower the prices.

That's the wrong mentality. We can only hope RDNA3 to be successful so that Nvidia loses market share. And down the road we can also hope Intel to became a true competitor so we have 3 companies competing against each other. RDNA 3 bringing down prices of RTX 4080 so that people buy an RTX 4080 at $1000 and even feel thankful to Nvidia for lowering prices, is BAD. Nvidia needs to LOSE market share. And badly.

phanbueyThe 4090 got scalped, the ENTIRE 3000 series got horrendously scalped. Scalpers are a sign that the market is willing to pay more for your product than MSRP -- there's still 'meat on the bone' so to speak.

the 6500xt never got scalped and the 4080 is a pretty terrible scalper target as well, which just shows they're closer the 'actual' market price with MSRP than they were for the 4090 or Ampere.

I have a feeling there won't be many 7900 series around either. The scalping opportunity will dry up either when they supply enough cards, and saturate the market, or the price gets high enough to squeeze them out -- or some combination of the two.

3000 series was selling in a mining craze era. RTX 4090 came after that era with people being in such a great need of a GPU that they probably gone way over their budget. They where starving for a fast GPU. The 6500XT has an AMD sticker on it, meaning consumers weren't willing to buy it, while the press had no problem to burn it on sight. Also it wasn't good for mining.
RX 7900 XT/X will also be bad scalping options, because of their lower performance in RT. People will not buy an RX 7900XT/X at prices close to RTX 4080, because even if RTX 4080 loses in raster, it will be winning in RT. Even people wanting to pay extra for raster, if they see the price close to that of an RTX 4090(meaning about $200-$300), will probably just go with that option.

dgianstefaniIt's faster than a 3090ti so at 1000 or 1100 it's reasonable.

So when the RTX 5080 cost $1700 it will be reasonable because it will be faster than then $1400-1500 4090ti by then. RTX 6080 will be reasonable at $2200-2400 an so on

john_3000 series was selling in a mining craze era. RTX 4090 came after that era with people being in such a great need of a GPU that they probably gone way over their budget. They where starving for a fast GPU. The 6500XT has an AMD sticker on it, meaning consumers weren't willing to buy it, while the press had no problem to burn it on sight. Also it wasn't good for mining.
RX 7900 XT/X will also be bad scalping options, because of their lower performance in RT. People will not buy an RX 7900XT/X at prices close to RTX 4080, because even if RTX 4080 loses in raster, it will be winning in RT. Even people wanting to pay extra for raster, if they see the price close to that of an RTX 4090(meaning about $200-$300), will probably just go with that option.

Totally agree with everything except the 7900xt xtx being a bad scalping option. I think those are going to be unobtanium.

usinameSo when the RTX 5080 cost $1700 it will be reasonable because it will be faster than then $1400-1500 4090ti by then. RTX 6080 will be reasonable at $2200-2400 an so on

No eventually they will just lose market share and have to lower prices. It's just slow and unpredictable.

I'm a pessimist here regarding prices of both big brands. Well yeah mr. leather jacket can cut the msrp by a $100 - not gonna change the picture a lot. I imagine $999 7900XTXs will all be scooped up day1 while actual AIB cards from Sapphire/MSI/Asus that are on its level performance-wise will be 1100$+. Plus there won't be any cards anywhere around this price here in EU anyway, meaning everyone here will be choosing between €1400 4080s and €1200 7900XTX. I already know where 80% of the market will go.

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Although I think the price should match the 580 adjusted for inflation, anything higher than $899 is simply unreasonable. $649 would be an ideal price point.

That "Get better, Nvidia" is so wrong in so many ways. Why would Nvidia get better, when the consumer spots the huge price increase and instead of saying "Good buy Nvidia, I am going with the competition", they just beg Nvidia to "Get better"? If I was Nvidia, seeing that "Get better, Nvidia", I would be putting a $1499 price tag in the RTX 5080.

The 4080's worth is defined by a market performance/$ curve.

Currently the curve is a bit fuzzy and undefined at the top end of the range beyond about $800 due to wild variations in 3090/3090Ti/4080/4090 pricing, scalping, and lack of competition.

When the 7900-series lands, there will NEED to be adjustments to fit everything back to the curve because at the moment Nvidia are flexing their unconstrained, unchallenged greed.

phanbueyTotally agree with everything except the 7900xt xtx being a bad scalping option. I think those are going to be unobtanium.

Let's hope AMD will have a huge supply and consumers not scalpers, buy those cards.

I honestly don’t think a 4080 is worth more than $800 to me, but ultimately it will depend on where the 7900XT lands performance wise. The 4080 is likely to be faster than the XT and slower than the XTX so sadly it’ll still be a grand.

dgianstefaniIt's faster than a 3090ti so at 1000 or 1100 it's reasonable.

So, with inflation, $1100 is a $300 increase from 3080->4080. By your logic, the next 80 should be $1400+inflation and so on... Really cool prices in some years.

It must be that 5% discount I saw somewhere...

dgianstefaniIt's faster than a 3090ti so at 1000 or 1100 it's reasonable.

that is such a bad take, the 3090 was way too expensive and now this would be reasonalbe because its not AS expensive?
you must be a dream customer for companies if this was all it took for your to think you were getting good value.....

dgianstefaniIt's faster than a 3090ti so at 1000 or 1100 it's reasonable.

That's not how it works. By your logic and going way back, GPUs should probably cost upwards of 3 or 4k today because each generation is faster than the last. Or because Intel released the 9980XE at nearly 2k some years ago, it's reasonable that every cpu that's faster should cost more than 2k.