That would look good with red braided cables.

The 140mm everyone has been waiting for is getting pushed back to 24 now. :(

Another roadmap update, another next-gen 140mm delay.

White fans have disappeared completely from the roadmap now...

More delays, seems like a legit Noctua roadmap alright.

Waiting for Noctua's next-generation D15 and 140mm fan can be compared to Christians waiting for Jesus Christ to come again.

Classic Noctua. Tbf, a D16 is kind of too late now with how hot processors are. Either you will need a top tier clc to barely keep it under control or you can just grab a midrange air cooler and be fine. Flagship air coolers are the oddballs now imo.

I'm willing to bet the majority of the performance gains from the D16 over the D15 will come primarily from the new 140mm fans. Other than adding more heat pipes there isn't much else to improve on the heatsink side of things. They already have the fin density, dual tower, soldered heat pipes, dimension constraints prevent it from being any larger than it already is ftmp, and aesthetics don't add horsepower so yeah lol.

Well, here's hoping we get the 140mm version of the T30 fan from Phanteks this year.

AirisomClassic Noctua. Tbf, a D16 is kind of too late now with how hot processors are. Either you will need a top tier clc to barely keep it under control or you can just grab a midrange air cooler and be fine. Flagship air coolers are the oddballs now imo.

I'm willing to bet the majority of the performance gains from the D16 over the D15 will come primarily from the new 140mm fans. Other than adding more heat pipes there isn't much else to improve on the heatsink side of things. They already have the fin density, dual tower, soldered heat pipes, dimension constraints prevent it from being any larger than it already is ftmp, and aesthetics don't add horsepower so yeah lol.

Eh, high end air cooling is still great on AMD. You loose a fraction of a percentage by going air over water. If you are looking to minimize sound, maximize efficiency, and reliablity air is better. AIOs have to keep a pump running whereas air coolers don't. Air coolers just work, even if the only part that can fail (the fan) fails.

evernessinceEh, high end air cooling is still great on AMD. You loose a fraction of a percentage by going air over water. If you are looking to minimize sound, maximize efficiency, and reliablity air is better. AIOs have to keep a pump running whereas air coolers don't. Air coolers just work, even if the only part that can fail (the fan) fails.

You're preaching to the choir. The thing is, AMD processors can run really well on midrange coolers too. Heck, a 7800x3d can run stock on a wraith cooler no throttling if your case airflow is good. A D16 isn't going to fundamentally change the air cooling market like it's predecessors have.

What happened to the desktop fan?

¿what type of 24v 40mm fan it will be?, 40x10, 40x20 or something larger like 25/30mm

This roadmap is so sad and barren. Noctua's going to need more than just "it's a different colored version" for their coolers if they want to compete with low cost, high performing competition.
I personally use and love the A12x25 fan so I'd love to see them thrive, but this year is looking like a lot of nothing. I would totally rebuy the fans if they came out in pure white too.

maxflyThe 140mm everyone has been waiting for is getting pushed back to 24 now. :(

It's like clockwork. I've got a saved copy of every quarterly Noctua roadmap back until Q3 2020 and in every one of them the next gen 140mm fan is three quarters away. Three quarters away for three years.

Don't understand why it takes this long to Noctua to offer Chromax.Black variant on their entire lineup of coolers . It's not like they have to reinvent the wheel for every SKU , they have already established a process for their Chromax.Black coating so it would be as trivial as applying this process to their entire lineup ....

Mr. PerfectIt's like clockwork. I've got a saved copy of every quarterly Noctua roadmap back until Q3 2020 and in every one of them the next gen 140mm fan is three quarters away. Three quarters away for three years.

Nice find :] If I'm not wrong they first teased this fan during Computex 2017 and year before they teased 140mm x 15mm fan which was never released... During Computex 2019 they presented heatsink of next-generation D15 - equipped with NF-A14 beat D15's one by 1,5C on 280W heat load... My suspicion is, it all took that long to the point of this fan and needing it D16 becoming already outperformed by competition, so Noctua maybe even started development all over again. Noctua would be likely to spent this time on caring about little details almost nobody tests like vibrations, durability or acoustic optimization, but these products happened being not the best in typical noise-normalized benchmarks which pc croud thinks are all needed. Noctua seems like the last brand being fine with debuting on the market product which isn't absolutely the best. They just should stop this roadmap which only angers people.

You'd think with Noctua knowing better than anyone else that everyone wants the new 140mm fan they'd push that to the front of the to do list. Fan hubs are cool but everyone and their mother makes those. Having amongst the best 140mm fans is a very short list they should focus on that.

AirisomClassic Noctua. Tbf, a D16 is kind of too late now with how hot processors are. Either you will need a top tier clc to barely keep it under control or you can just grab a midrange air cooler and be fine.

Wait what? Processors are too hot for dual tower flagship coolers but midrange single towers are fine?
The clc struggle you speak of is because people want to put the slowest and quietest fans on there when the pumps aren't the best in the first place then it gets hot so when they 100% speed the fan and it only spins 1500rpm and it's still hot people come to the assumption that if a clc can barley handle it then how tf will an air cooler. I'll never buy into WCing for a daily machine. Just put some real fans on there and push some air. No need to chase someone else's idea of noise/ performance balance.

For those who don't know, they encountered a serious issue whilst producing their initial 140mm fna design and had to go back to the drawing board.

They are in no rush, I think Noctua is selling coolers and fans etc really well.

So Noctua just leaked that AMD Threadripper Zen4 is a new socket again it seems. "Next gen Threadripper"

UpgrayeddWait what? Processors are too hot for dual tower flagship coolers but midrange single towers are fine?
The clc struggle you speak of is because people want to put the slowest and quietest fans on there when the pumps aren't the best in the first place then it gets hot so when they 100% speed the fan and it only spins 1500rpm and it's still hot people come to the assumption that if a clc can barley handle it then how tf will an air cooler. I'll never buy into WCing for a daily machine. Just put some real fans on there and push some air. No need to chase someone else's idea of noise/ performance balance.

Yeah my next post clarified that a little my brain skipped over the details. I'm just trying to say that a D16 isn't going to make it possible to cool something like a 13700K or higher on air well, nor does any good air cooler on the market unless you're delidding or doing direct-die, and even then the temps can still be high.

When it comes to parts say 13600K and below, 7900 and below, those can be cooled decently with midrange air coolers, especially AMD. Midrange air coolers to me are coolers around the $50 price range. Peerless Assassin 2, AS500/Plus, Frost Tower 120, Frost Commander 140. All of those are around $45-60 with the AS500 Plus being kinda high, but I threw it in anyway.

It's possible to cool a stock 7800X3D with a wraith cooler without throttling if air intake temps are good and your case airflow is efficient. If not, then maybe it'll throttle by a couple percent which is still good from a dang wraith cooler of all things. All I read about are people having problems keeping temperatures under control on 13700K and above with TJMax being hit quickly. They are expensive to cool, period.

AMD is the winner here because they can be cooled cheaply and will still perform well. The 7900X, 7950X and their 3D counterparts might be pushing it with the aforementioned coolers, but with TDP tweaking should work fine. But it's no debate that 360mm+ CLCs perform better than flagship air coolers when noise-normalized. CLCs also usually have faster spinning fans to give you more thermal headroom.

But like I said before, a D16 isn't going to introduce anythying that's going to change this. You might get a couple degrees with their new 140mm fans coming out, and that's about it. There have been reviews where they compared the D14 and D15 with the same fans, and they performed within 1-2C of each other despite the D15 having a beefier heatsink. We've seen a 7th heatipe in the prototypes from a couple years back, and that should help with dry-out on the higher TDP processors, but the fans are the great equalizer here. Heatsinks have plateued, and you don't need to spend $100 on a dang D15 anymore because there are cheaper coolers that basically perform the same - FC140 is the big one here at $52 on Amazon. The FS140 at $43 is really good too and the 4x8mm heatpipes offer roughly the same thermal capacity 6x6mm heatpipes do iirc.

I too believe in fairytales.

Honestly, Noctua is very close to being eclipsed at this point, with exciting air cooler offerings from Thermalright, BeQuiet & Deepcool, & fan options from BeQuiet, Phanteks, and even companies like Lian Li & Thermaltake.

Being fair, not one of those vendors have the 'suite' of products that Noctua has (my kingdom for more options outside 120mm & the distant 140mm), but unless you really want everything to match, its not that big of a deal.

Noctua's delays are as bad as intel's nodes lol

maxflyThe 140mm everyone has been waiting for is getting pushed back to 24 now. :(

Well not everyone. Noctua prices are obscene in Australia, I've long given up on being ripped-off.

I don't understand why they still bother with those roadmaps, they are far worse than CIG with Star Citizen.