RavenmasterIf they're sneakily replacing the connectors on new models then there clearly was a design flaw and their previous claim of 'user error' is invalidated.

TheDeeGeeConnectors are still melting daily, though all those are with the CableMod adapter (fully seated) and it's 99.99% of the time a 4090.

I doubt this new connector will fix that problem.

RavenmasterIf they're sneakily replacing the connectors on new models then there clearly was a design flaw and their previous claim of 'user error' is invalidated.

RavenmasterIf they're sneakily replacing the connectors on new models then there clearly was a design flaw and their previous claim of 'user error' is invalidated.

Bomby569Steve from GamersNexus completely missed this one on his news video. I wonder if he will just ignore it forever :D

TimbalooAt some point, PC building will be dumbed down enough, so even complete idiots will succeed.

AssimilatorGiven that this news item first appeared 11 hours ago, apparently you expect Steve to go back in time and modify his video to include news from the future.

AssimilatorThere neither is nor was a design flaw, it was always user error. The updated design simply makes it more difficult for user error to cause physical hardware damage - now the card will more reliably fail to boot when the connector isn't properly seated, as opposed to making improper connection causing the melting and/or burning.

Bomby569reddit has cases with the normal cable still burning and claiming "fully seated". And i guess the 4080 didn't sell that much for obvious reasons, so it will be mostly a 4090 problem but not because of a difference between them.

TheDeeGeeThe cablemod adapters are fully seated, as the users can't remove them, and all pictures they show clearly has the connector flush.

Bomby569July 5th
www.techpowerup.com/310866/nvidia-already-using-modified-12v-2x6-power-connector-on-geforce-rtx-4070-founders-edition
videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-already-using-modified-power-connector-on-geforce-rtx-4070-founders-edition

July 3rd
www.techpowerup.com/310761/12vhpwr-connector-said-to-be-replaced-by-12v-2x6-connector
www.igorslab.de/en/rest-in-peace-12vhpwr-connector-welcome-12v-2x6-connector/

sure mate :D

Tom YumSomething can be user error AND a design flaw at the same time. Designing components to eliminate foreseeable hazards is good design. Relying on people to 'get gud' isn't. Look at all the other connectors in a PC, all of them can only be fitted one way, and if installed incorrectly won't cause damage.

AssimilatorThis is not about the 4070, this is about the 4090. Do try to keep up.

bugWake me up when they start selling Ada with updated pricing instead.

Tom YumSomething can be user error AND a design flaw at the same time. Designing components to eliminate foreseeable hazards is good design. Relying on people to 'get gud' isn't. Look at all the other connectors in a PC, all of them can only be fitted one way, and if installed incorrectly won't cause damage.

I remember the days of socketed 286/386's that could be installed 4 different ways, 3 of which would cause CPU damage. We don't have that problem anymore, not because everyone got good at PC building, but because we design correctors/sockets so they can't be accidentally installed incorrectly, or if they can then no permanent damage is done.

ARFCan we get to the actual technical issue?
The technical issue is that this new "connector", or a proven as a failed attempt to be a safe one, has a lower safety margin.
The old and proven 8-pin (and 6-pin) connector can conduct higher current - up to 8-10 amperes per pin.
With this new "connector", the current is halved, or as low as 3-4 amperes per pin.

I would call out the decision to use this unproven 'connector" for the highest-wattage and most demand cards - well beyond 450-watt is no joke.
Normally, they should have started with replacing the 6-pin connector in some of the lower-end cards, to test if it works safe.

I don't accept this "connector" and will avoid it. AMD already refused to use it in the RX 7900 series cards.

AssimilatorThe actual technical issue is that, as usual, you're making things up to suit your narrative. If each 12VHPWR connector pin was only rated for 4A @ 12V then it would be physically impossible for the connector to provide up to 600W, because that's how basic math works. Since it can provide up to 600W, your completely unsubstantiated BS about only 4A per pin is quite obviously incorrect, and you should go back to school.