Tuesday, July 25th 2023

AMD Prepares Global Launch of Ryzen 5 7500F at $180, Faster at Gaming than Core i5-13400

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The China-specific AMD Ryzen 5 7500F desktop processor could see a wider international launch, reports VideoCardz, citing the AMD website, which has marked its regional availability as "global." The processor is priced at USD $180 for the retail PIB package. The 7500F is a 6-core/12-thread processor based on the same "Raphael" Zen 4 MCM as the 7600X, but lacks integrated graphics, has a lower 65 W TDP, and slightly lower clock speeds. The processor saw a China-exclusive release earlier this week. Chinese and regional media with access to samples reviewed the processor, noting that its gaming performance 6% behind that of the Ryzen 5 7600X at 1080p, but more importantly, the Ryzen 5 7500F is 13% faster than the Core i5-13400 in terms of average FPS, and about 8% faster in 1% low FPS.

This makes the Ryzen 5 7500F a faster gaming processor than the $200 Core i5-13400, and the $180 Core i5-13400F, which it was originally designed to square off against. The Ryzen 5 7500F is configured with 6 cores and 12 threads, 1 MB of L2 cache per core, and 32 MB of shared L3 cache. The processor has a base frequency of 3.70 GHz, with a 5.00 GHz boost that's just 100 MHz behind that of the Ryzen 5 7600 (65 W), and 300 MHz behind the 7600X (105 W). The "F" in the brand extension indicates a lack of integrated graphics, which shouldn't be a dealbreaker for the processor's intended audience—PC gamers. AMD is including a Wraith Stealth stock cooler with the retail 7500F, which coupled with A620 chipset motherboards that start at $125, should make for a formidable mainstream gaming PC platform with ample upgrade headroom.
Sources: VideoCardz, QuasarZone, Expreview, MyDrivers

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21 Comments on AMD Prepares Global Launch of Ryzen 5 7500F at $180, Faster at Gaming than Core i5-13400

#1
ixi
Good, good. Lower prices for cpu's os good.

Now back to the real thing. When can we get desktop cpu's at 50 and 100€? :D
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#2
NuCore
Another day, another news bug. We are talking about the Ryzen 5 7500F, and we see the 7600F processor wonderfully created by the author of the news. PS Recently, the author created a 5700F processor :D
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#3
Unregistered
Would be good if AMD makes cheaper F versions of all that lineup.
#4
Daven
There are four A620 motherboards on Newegg that are priced below $125 with the cheapest being $85.
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#5
AusWolf
It's good to see that cheap AM5 is slowly becoming a reality.
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#6
Tomorrow
ixiNow back to the real thing. When can we get desktop cpu's at 50 and 100€? :D
Renoir based Zen 2 models from 4xxx series are around and below 60€. From 4c/8t to 6c/12t.
Matisse based 3600 is 70€ (also Zen 2). 6c/12t and tho technically uses 32MB of L3 it is split design 2x16 and thus slower in games compared to unified L3 in Zen 3.
Cheapest Zen 3 based model is 5500 (6c/12t) @90€ but it's based on Cezanne monolithic design and this means cut L3.
The cheapest model that has full L3 is 5600 (Vermeer, 6c/12T) @ 113€.
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#7
Daven
ixiGood, good. Lower prices for cpu's os good.

Now back to the real thing. When can we get desktop cpu's at 50 and 100€? :D
It doesn’t seem like AMD or Intel are too interested in the sub $100 price bracket. You can add Nvidia to that list when considering the GPU market as well.

Edit: There are some choices:

Ryzen 3 4100 $67
Ryzen 5 4500 $79
Core i3 12100F $93
Pentium G7400 $98
Ryzen 5 5500 $99
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#8
Darmok N Jalad
I doubt we'll see too many other AMD F editions, as it's not like the iGPU in these is very big to begin with. Since it resides on the IOD, they would probably just bin the failed iGPU parts in low-tier models. There's only 2 CUs in these, so it's barely a value-adder to begin with.
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#9
SunWukong
PCPartPicker Part List: pcpartpicker.com/list/sqCQ3y

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($180.00)
Motherboard: Gigabyte A620M S2H Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL32 Memory ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $354.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-25 09:00 EDT-0400

PCPartPicker Part List: pcpartpicker.com/list/yXxv8r

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($180.00)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-P Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL32 Memory ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $374.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-25 09:18 EDT-0400


Not too bad to compete with 13400 but AMD can just lower the price of the 7600 non-x. The 7600X is currently $199. If they really want to push this for a cheap entry, gaming chip then sell it at $160. AMD also needs to bring cheaper and more ITX boards on the market. The lone $150 A620i isn't going to cut it.
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Tomorrow
SunWukongPCPartPicker Part List: pcpartpicker.com/list/sqCQ3y

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($180.00)
Motherboard: Gigabyte A620M S2H Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL32 Memory ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $354.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-25 09:00 EDT-0400


Not too bad to compete with 13400 but AMD can just lower the price of the 7600 non-x. The 7600X is currently $199. If they really want to push this for a cheap entry, gaming chip then sell it at $160. AMD also needs to bring cheaper and more ITX boards on the market. The lone $150 A620i isn't going to cut it.
There's also a cheaper A620 at 84,95 or adding the cheapest B650 at 109,99 increases the total cost by only ~7%.
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#11
SunWukong
TomorrowThere's also a cheaper A620 at 84,95 or adding the cheapest B650 at 109,99 increases the total cost by only ~7%
I edited to include the B650 and the difference is $20. It's worth it for PBO, an extra m.2 and 4 RAM slot. The cheaper A620 didn't have bios flashback so I'd skip that board entirely. MSI is being really cheap.
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#12
TheinsanegamerN
DavenIt doesn’t seem like AMD or Intel are too interested in the sub $100 price bracket. You can add Nvidia to that list when considering the GPU market as well.

Edit: There are some choices:

Ryzen 3 4100 $67
Ryzen 5 4500 $79
Core i3 12100F $93
Pentium G7400 $98
Ryzen 5 5500 $99
Honestly the 12100f is the clear winner there.
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#13
ixi
TheinsanegamerNHonestly the 12100f is the clear winner there.
Why? Cheaper to pick all other parts or there is another reason?
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#14
Tomorrow
SunWukongI edited to include the B650 and the difference is $20. It's worth it for PBO, an extra m.2 and 4 RAM slot. The cheaper A620 didn't have bios flashback so I'd skip that board entirely. MSI is being really cheap.
Yep that was my thinking too. It's easier to change the CPU or add more RAM instead of changing the motherboard in the future. Plus like you said the price difference is relatively small but the expansion upgrades are worth it. A620 should be even cheaper to have an advantage. Like maybe only 50 bucks to offset the restrictions.
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#15
Unregistered
TheinsanegamerNHonestly the 12100f is the clear winner there.
cpu is an interesting choice with somewhat upgradability, but please tell - what motherboard would you pair it with?
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#16
SunWukong
TheinsanegamerNHonestly the 12100f is the clear winner there.
Huh? If was given a specific budget and need a chip to last me for years to come without the need to upgrade then the obvious choice here is the 5500.
ixiWhy? Cheaper to pick all other parts or there is another reason?
Nothing in that list can beat this combo right now for p/p. In fact, the 5500 goes for as low as $80 but sells out quickly then it jumps to its current price at around $100. If you are absolutely on an extreme tight budget then I think a used 2600 for $30 off eBay is the best bang for your buck.

PCPartPicker Part List: pcpartpicker.com/list/RMFFgb

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($98.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450M-A PRO MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($70.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($29.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $199.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-25 11:16 EDT-0400

PCPartPicker Part List: pcpartpicker.com/list/C4tBBj

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($98.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($29.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $213.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-25 11:18 EDT-0400
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#17
TheinsanegamerN
SunWukongHuh? If was given a specific budget and need a chip to last me for years to come without the need to upgrade then the obvious choice here is the 5500.
so if you need to upgrade in years to come, you'd spend money on a dead platform? Somehow a 5800x in 3 year sis viable, but an i5/i7 isnt?

If you want to "upgrade" every few years and waste money, you should be buying AM5 anyway. Why would you buy a dead end socket with the aim of upgrading it in the future?
ixiWhy? Cheaper to pick all other parts or there is another reason?
Cheaper platform cost. Lower power use, especially with tuning. The 5500 is a gimped part anyway, with only PCIe 3.0 and half the cache.
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#18
AusWolf
Darmok N JaladI doubt we'll see too many other AMD F editions, as it's not like the iGPU in these is very big to begin with. Since it resides on the IOD, they would probably just bin the failed iGPU parts in low-tier models. There's only 2 CUs in these, so it's barely a value-adder to begin with.
The added value is the extra display outputs. Since modern graphics cards come with only one HDMI, I never buy a CPU with no iGPU in it.
TheinsanegamerNso if you need to upgrade in years to come, you'd spend money on a dead platform? Somehow a 5800x in 3 year sis viable, but an i5/i7 isnt?

If you want to "upgrade" every few years and waste money, you should be buying AM5 anyway. Why would you buy a dead end socket with the aim of upgrading it in the future?

Cheaper platform cost. Lower power use, especially with tuning. The 5500 is a gimped part anyway, with only PCIe 3.0 and half the cache.
I built a budget gaming PC for my brother last year using the 5500. It's a good system, but if I had to do it now, I'd think about the 7500F with an A620 motherboard.
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#19
SunWukong
TheinsanegamerNso if you need to upgrade in years to come, you'd spend money on a dead platform? Somehow a 5800x in 3 year sis viable, but an i5/i7 isnt?
I said "last me for years to come without the need to upgrade". Oh and good luck upgrading to i5 with a H610 mobo.
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#20
Darmok N Jalad
AusWolfThe added value is the extra display outputs. Since modern graphics cards come with only one HDMI, I never buy a CPU with no iGPU in it.


I built a budget gaming PC for my brother last year using the 5500. It's a good system, but if I had to do it now, I'd think about the 7500F with an A620 motherboard.
True. You can always go DisplayPort to HDMI as well. I kinda prefer DisplayPort honestly. It handles audio too, and most monitors these days have that port along with an HDMI and maybe a USB-C.
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#21
AusWolf
Darmok N JaladTrue. You can always go DisplayPort to HDMI as well. I kinda prefer DisplayPort honestly. It handles audio too, and most monitors these days have that port along with an HDMI and maybe a USB-C.
Mine doesn't unfortunately, neither does the 7" secondary screen I have for GPU-Z and other diagnostics. If I had DP, I'd prefer it, too.
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