AMD FX OC'ers Club

[Johan45]

5 hours so far Prime95 with FX 8320@ 4.5Ghz 1.35V in BIOS 1.332V reported under load with LLC @ high. CPU/NB @ 2600MHz 1.275V LLC @ high HTlink at 2600MHz as well, default voltage. Load TEMP at CPU is around 51C average and a peak of 53C socket temp report by mobo average around 63-64C with peak at 68C. I'll post some pics at the end of my workday, which should put it over 8 hours of Prime95, hopefully no errors.

Also, been thinking about lapping to help with temps, any FX owners have any experience to share? Thanks.

That all sounds good , your temps are getting close to limits though. As for lapping I couldn't tell you what kind of temp difference it'll make but I can tell you the IHS definately isn't flat on the FX cpus. At least mine wasn't so in theory better contact = better dissipation. A lot of it will depend on the base of your cooler too. Some have a bit of a convex shape. When you remove the cooler if you see a nice even film thof TIM then you're getting good contact if you see a thin circle or thick in the ceter then you're not and lapping may help.

 

[d1nky]

lapping helped me out a little, 5*c at most.

but tbh getting a better cooling system or optimizing your cooling is more beneficial and doesnt lose warranty. And 5 hours of prime, congrats most including me dont bother for that long unless folding/crunching. Also with water loops you get a thing called heatsoak so the longer it burns the hotter it will get, those temps should never hit that at normal or high usage in everyday life.

p.s yooooooooooo johan!

 

[Random Murderer]

lapping helped me out a little, 5*c at most.

but tbh getting a better cooling system or optimizing your cooling is more beneficial and doesnt lose warranty. And 5 hours of prime, congrats most including me dont bother for that long unless folding/crunching. Also with water loops you get a thing called heatsoak so the longer it burns the hotter it will get, those temps should never hit that at normal or high usage in everyday life.

p.s yooooooooooo johan!

Welcome back, d1nkster.

 

[m0nt3]

Yeah, I know the temp are on the borderline limits, however under normal useage or gaming it is signifcantly lower, and my H60 has already been lapped along with my old 1055T, which ran really cool. for normal useage the cooling, I think is fine, I don't do any kind of distributed computing. If a good lapping can bring it down 5C, then all the better. Not using provided cooler and overclocking hsa already voided the warranty, which i have never had to use on a CPU anyway .

 

[Norton]

159$ @ SideWinderComputers, 40$ less than in the link you just gave. Will it do it's job of cooling down the 5.0GHz 8350?

If you are in the US consider picking up the CM Glacer 240L from sneekypete's FS thread... it's a rebadged Swiftech H220 and he's selling it for around $75 iirc

Awesome price/great cooler- love mine!

 

[YautjaLord]

If you are in the US consider picking up the CM Glacer 240L from sneekypete's FS thread... it's a rebadged Swiftech H220 and he's selling it for around $75 iirc

Awesome price/great cooler- love mine!

From Israel, but it doesn't matter - i already ordered few things from guy (Gary) & besides i'm in no rush for now. Thanx regardless.

P.S. 4.4 - is that the maximum frequency of your 8350 or is it 5.0GHz? And about that CM Glacer - rebadged H220 or H2O-220 Edge/Edge HD/etc....?

 

[Norton]

From Israel, but it doesn't matter - i already ordered few things from guy (Gary) & besides i'm in no rush for now. Thanx regardless.

P.S. 4.4 - is that the maximum frequency of your 8350 or is it 5.0GHz? And about that CM Glacer - rebadged H220 or H2O-220 Edge/Edge HD/etc....?

I just set my FX to 4.4 and called it good... tried 4.6 and it was stable but the heat wasn't good for the 24/7 load I put on it.

The CM Glacer 240L is an H220 with different fans- check this review out:

http://martinsliquidlab.org/2013/01/27/swiftech-h220-prefilled-2x120mm-water-cooling-kit/

I'm running a 7970 and an FX-8350 in the same loop- great system!

 

[JATownes]

I'll post for grins. Here's my everyday runner. I need new cards, but just don't seem to have time to game anymore.

 

[Johan45]

Nice setup JATownes

 

[YautjaLord]

I just set my FX to 4.4 and called it good... tried 4.6 and it was stable but the heat wasn't good for the 24/7 load I put on it.

The CM Glacer 240L is an H220 with different fans- check this review out:

http://martinsliquidlab.org/2013/01/27/swiftech-h220-prefilled-2x120mm-water-cooling-kit/

I'm running a 7970 and an FX-8350 in the same loop- great system!

Simply this one: http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swh2codriipl.html, but with CM's fans? Man, i'm going for it's 4th or what-the-f*ck-ever gen successor: http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swh2elselico.html. Good luck man regardless, i see you love this LCS. Awesome review as well.

 

[Johan45]

Looks good Yautja. It should do you fine.

 

[YautjaLord]

Here's to FX-8350 @ 5.0GHz/1.4 (or 1.5v) @ 40+ degrees C @ full C:R/AvP3/Serious Sam HD/etc... load on H2O-220 Elite next month. Thanx Johan45.

P.S. For how long will the kit's coolant suffice? A month? A year? This 220 Elite's coolant:

 

[Johan45]

It's recommended to flush a loop every 6 months or so. As for that specific coolant????

Good luck with the OC YautjaLord. 5.0 is a tough hill to climb for a lot of FX owners.

 

[YautjaLord]

Yup, i know that - this is not the only forum i visit that mentiones that. Next month will clear that out. Cheers, keep headbangin'!!!!

P.S. Thanx for coolant info, man.

 

[Johan45]

Yup, i know that - this is not the only forum i visit that mentiones that. Next month will clear that out. Cheers, keep headbangin'!!!!

P.S. Thanx for coolant info, man.

Here's a thread I found at XS. Sounds like you have to use it for warranty. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?187070-Swiftech-HydrX-Coolant-is-recommended
This will give you the POV of someone elses experiences with it.

 

[YautjaLord]

Use whatever you like, but not using Swiftech Hydrx will void the warranty on your Apogee GTX. Its especially controversial given the plated aluminum top of the GTX. Even if you use the copper top, you're not going to get RMA privileges if you don't use Hydrx.
Like I said, do whatever you want. Just be warned.

That stuff, right? But they also recommend either PT-Nuke (majority of forum members) or plain simple distilled water. Also they NOT recommend HydrX due to the sh*t looking residue inside loop/tubing/etc... So. What gives? I'm not concerned about "voiding" a "warranty" of that kind if this particular "warranty" makes a f*ckin' mess inside my tubing/loop & in fact i'd rather go for PT-Nuke if this is recommended by XS forum members.

P.S. Apogee Drive II CPU waterblock - that's what the H2O-220 Elite have, not Apogee GTX. Any difference between two?

 

[Random Murderer]

That stuff, right? But they also recommend either PT-Nuke (majority of forum members) or plain simple distilled water. Also they NOT recommend HydrX due to the sh*t looking residue inside loop/tubing/etc... So. What gives? I'm not concerned about "voiding" a "warranty" of that kind if this particular "warranty" makes a f*ckin' mess inside my tubing/loop & in fact i'd rather go for PT-Nuke if this is recommended by XS forum members.

P.S. Apogee Drive II CPU waterblock - that's what the H2O-220 Elite have, not Apogee GTX. Any difference between two?

I'd use plain old distilled water with either a silver kill coil or some sort of algaecide/biocide. If you go with algaecide/biocide(something like PT Nuke), you only need a few drops for a full loop.
The Apogee GTX is a waterblock by itself, not a block/pump combo.

As far as the warranty goes, in this case, it's simply marketing. There's really no way Swiftech can prove you used a different coolant, aside from costly chemical testing of the block.

 

[Johan45]

@YautjaLord if you use their coolant you don't need PT-Nuke. It already has an Algecide. I would use what Random suggested. Just Plain distilled water and a coil. I have antifreeze in mine through the winter so I really have no worries. In the summer I'll go back to an open cooler and ice Change the water every couple of months cause it gets dirty.

 

[YautjaLord]

Will do once i have that motherf**ker. Kill coil - where to purchase? How many drops? If i'd go with distilled water & HydrX stead - how many? People on other forums (including the one you gave) suggest 4 - 5 drops of HydrX in distilled water. Also i do NOT want distilled + coil sh*t to corrode the parts of water block, cause most said that's one of side effects of this combo. If i'd go just with HydrX - cleaning the tubing once in 2 months will suffice you say, eh?

 

[Johan45]

Well you get the coolant with purchase, just use that for now. Do a bit more research on the parts, these have been out for a while the new one has some slight changes but basically the same. It sounds like they coated the copper with aluminum to help prevent the galvanic corrosion you get with mixed metals.

 

[YautjaLord]

I'll check this out next month, thanx.

 

[Johan45]

What's going on, did everyone sell their PCs ?? I'll post this up just to get things moving, I know it's not an FX but I've been having a blast with this.
PhenomII X6 1090T, had it mailed to me from England with no idea of it's OC ablity. So far it's a really nice piece of silicon.
Have it at 4251/1.5v, NB/3130/1.29v Mem 1790 7-8-7 timings





And here's the really sad part, cinebench 11.5 at a nice daily clock of 4.25 it wipes the floor with my FX-6350 at 5.56 http://hwbot.org/submission/2510877_johan45_cinebench_r11.5_fx_6350_7.24_points




And finally top speed to date, at least till the cold comes back is 4.964 http://valid.canardpc.com/nn14wz

 

[m0nt3]

What cooling solution are you using on that? I need something to get my temps under control on my 8320, could use some recommendations. Custom loop is out of the questions, don't think my wife would like the price tag.

 

[Johan45]

This is my set up which is a custom loop, I can hang my rad out side in the winter for some -15c water temps.



If you're not going to go custom then all you could do is go up in size on your H60. I had a TT water 2.0 that worked very well. I've heard nothing but good things from the swiftec. But to get up around the 5.0 mark if that's your goal requires at least a 3x120 rad in my opinion. They do sell some reasonably priced starter kits for WC beginners, I just checked your case and it looks like all you could do is a 240 rad in that one the H100i would likely bolt right in but I don't know if you'd manage to get enough MHz out of it to justify the expense.

 

[m0nt3]

I really just want around 4.5, i'm not to keen on high voltage long term use as this computer has to last me several years. The H60 is certainly at its limits at 4.5. The idea of a custom loop has always intrigued me, I could just never justify the cost. What are some of these starter kits you mention, I am not at all familiar with the water cooling scene.