!BEWARE! ASRock B650E Steel Legend CPU Destroying Bios BUG!

Dragam1337 · Feb 15, 2024

Redwoodz said:
It was not a factual statement, it was a general statement. I posted the correct stats, wtf is your problem?

You're letting out so much BS, that is my problem.

Redwoodz · Feb 15, 2024

Dragam1337 said:
You're letting out so much BS, that is my problem.

If you didn't know, most people have cpu cooling on a curve. Higher temps result in more RPM's. I was questioning why this did not. I and most others here are trying to pinpoint exactly what happened here. You want to just assume stuff go right ahead, but don't expect anyone to respect you for it.

Dragam1337 · Feb 15, 2024

Redwoodz said:
If you didn't know, most people have cpu cooling on a curve. Higher temps result in more RPM's. I was questioning why this did not. I and most others here are trying to pinpoint exactly what happened here. You want to just assume stuff go right ahead, but don't expect anyone to respect you for it.

You weren't questioning why the rpm wasn't higher, you were outright accusing him of doing it on purpose...

And aside of that, are you a complete tech novice, or what? A split second voltage blast wont make the fans spin up...

GerKNG · Feb 16, 2024

i now have the new 7800X3D in the same board and it runs for ~5 Hours now.

A Computer Guy · Feb 16, 2024

GerKNG said:
i now have the new 7800X3D in the same board and it runs for ~5 Hours now.

Did you report the issue or get any feedback from Asrock?
Are you going to try the aggressive setting again?

What exactly was this option supposed to do anyway and how is it different from EXPO?

I was poking around on reddit and came across a post where someone who did this on steel legend x670e 8 months ago said their VDD_SOC ended up being 1.35v. That's still too high for AM5 right?

Devon68 · Feb 16, 2024

A Computer Guy said:
I was poking around on reddit and came across a post where someone who did this on steel legend x670e 8 months ago said their VDD_SOC ended up being 1.35v. That's still too high for AM5 right?

If I'm not mistaken it's the highest it should be allowed to go.

Dragam1337 · Feb 16, 2024

Devon68 said:
If I'm not mistaken it's the highest it should be allowed to go.

No, that would be 1.30

neezy · Feb 16, 2024

Hello, I'm planning to buy a motherboard for Ryzen 7800x3d, I was thinking about B650E Steel Legend or B650E Riptide, will my processor be safe if I don't change anything in the bios except the EXPO profile? Is it Steel Legend's fault or a faulty bios on both boards? Which motherboard should I choose to feel safe? Sorry for my English

Zach_01 · Feb 17, 2024

A Computer Guy said:
Did you report the issue or get any feedback from Asrock?
Are you going to try the aggressive setting again?

What exactly was this option supposed to do anyway and how is it different from EXPO?

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I was poking around on reddit and came across a post where someone who did this on steel legend x670e 8 months ago said their VDD_SOC ended up being 1.35v. That's still too high for AM5 right?

Dont know but assume it loosens limit restrictions on power maybe through OCP(?)
Bad OCP confiquration was I think the primary issue on GemerNexus video, in conjunction with slightly high SoC V.

Personally I strongly suggest to AM5 users (especially on X3D) to manually configure SoC voltage no more than 1.25V and only if its really needed, and let the hypothetical +1% perf get away.
To me these are unnecessary vendor tricks and gimmicks to make their products more appealing to potential buyers.

And Im not talking specifically for AsRock.
All of the them indiscriminately!

Im getting a little worked up here...
WTF.. X3Ds are not as memory dependent as all other Ryzens anyway and the board should've hide that setting in the presence of one.
I know that Ryzens in general are benefited by memory subsystem speed (6000 etc etc...) but all of them should've done better job on testing.
Also AMD has responsibilities too on the subject for letting these scenarios happening still after 1.5years from platform launch.

GerKNG · Feb 17, 2024

A Computer Guy said:
Did you report the issue or get any feedback from Asrock?
Are you going to try the aggressive setting again?

What exactly was this option supposed to do anyway and how is it different from EXPO?

View attachment 334994

I was poking around on reddit and came across a post where someone who did this on steel legend x670e 8 months ago said their VDD_SOC ended up being 1.35v. That's still too high for AM5 right?

i have not a reply from ASRock so far and the replaced CPU was confimed to be "00" by the vendor.

1.3V is the SoC Limit on my board. and it's unnecessary high. 1.15V was the stable limit on my old, dead one.
and this happens when you enabled the aggressive mode:

AGESA DEFAULT EXPO:

EXPO Aggressive Performance Mode:

DaveLT · Apr 24, 2024

I have built a few 7500F, 7600, 7700, 7800X3D, 7950X, 7900X, 7950X3D PCs with ASRock B650, B650E, X670E motherboards and I've even risked Aggressive mode with the latest NON beta bios (With Adata XPG Lancer 6000MHz CL30 32GB on my B650 board with 7950X3D that I'm testing) and I never saw above 1.25V VDDR SOC.
Don't have a screenshot so you'll have to go by faith. Given how many I have built recently, erroneous SMU readings are more likely than motherboard Aggro mode causing the CPU to head to the grave.
I'm certain that the CPU was faulty rather than the motherboard blowing it up
If you do want to use aggressive mode, lower the VDDR SOC before hand to 1.2v. I have however come across 7500F that would not be stable with 1.2V VDDR SOC so beware, 1.25v might actually be necessary

Processor	Ryzen 7800x3d
Motherboard	Asus B650e-F Strix
Cooling	Corsair H150i Pro
Memory	Gskill 32gb 6000 mhz cl30
Video Card(s)	RTX 4090 Gaming OC
Storage	Samsung 980 pro 2tb, Samsung 860 evo 500gb, Samsung 850 evo 1tb, Samsung 860 evo 4tb
Display(s)	Acer XB321HK
Case	Coolermaster Cosmos 2
Audio Device(s)	Creative SB X-Fi 5.1 Pro + Logitech Z560
Power Supply	Corsair AX1200i
Mouse	Logitech G700s
Keyboard	Logitech G710+
Software	Win10 pro

Processor	Ryzen 7800x3d
Motherboard	Asus B650e-F Strix
Cooling	Corsair H150i Pro
Memory	Gskill 32gb 6000 mhz cl30
Video Card(s)	RTX 4090 Gaming OC
Storage	Samsung 980 pro 2tb, Samsung 860 evo 500gb, Samsung 850 evo 1tb, Samsung 860 evo 4tb
Display(s)	Acer XB321HK
Case	Coolermaster Cosmos 2
Audio Device(s)	Creative SB X-Fi 5.1 Pro + Logitech Z560
Power Supply	Corsair AX1200i
Mouse	Logitech G700s
Keyboard	Logitech G710+
Software	Win10 pro

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Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard	ASRock B650E Steel Legend Wifi
Cooling	Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 Rev. 7
Memory	2x16GB G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO 6000 CL30
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Nitro+ RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X
Storage	WD Black SN850X 1TB + 2x 2TB, 2x 4TB Crucial MX500, 4TB Samsung 870 Evo.
Display(s)	Alienware AW2723DF, LG 27GR93U, LG 27GN950-B
Case	Lian Li O11 Air Mini
Audio Device(s)	Bose Companion Series 2 III, Sennheiser GSP600 and HD599 SE - Creative Soundblaster X4
Power Supply	bequiet! Dark Power Pro 12 1500w Titanium
Mouse	Logitech GPRO X Superlight & G502 X
Keyboard	Corsair K65 RGB Mini, Razer Black Widow V3 TKL
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S

System Name	Not a thread ripper but pretty good.
Processor	Ryzen 9 5950x
Motherboard	ASRock X570 Taichi (revision 1.06, BIOS/UEFI version P5.50)
Cooling	EK-Quantum Velocity, EK-Quantum Reflection PC-O11, EK-CoolStream PE 360, XSPC TX360
Memory	Micron DDR4-3200 ECC Unbuffered Memory (4 sticks, 128GB, 18ASF4G72AZ-3G2F1)
Video Card(s)	XFX Radeon RX 5700 & EK-Quantum Vector Radeon RX 5700 +XT & Backplate
Storage	Samsung 2TB 980 PRO 2TB Gen4x4 NVMe, 2 x Samsung 2TB 970 EVO Plus Gen3x4 NVMe, AMD Radeon RAMDisk
Display(s)	2 x 4K LG 27UL600-W (and HUANUO Dual Monitor Mount)
Case	Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Black (original model)
Power Supply	Corsair RM750x
Mouse	Logitech M575
Keyboard	Corsair Strafe RGB MK.2
Software	Windows 10 Professional (64bit)
Benchmark Scores	Typical for non-overclocked CPU.

System Name	Ryzen 2023
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7700
Motherboard	Asrock B650E Steel Legend Wifi
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15
Memory	G Skill Flare X5 2x16gb cl32@6000 MHz
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Radeon RX 6950 XT Nitro + gaming Oc
Storage	WESTERN DIGITAL 1TB 64MB 7k SATA600 Blue WD10EZEX, WD Black SN850X 1Tb nvme
Display(s)	LG 27GP850P-B
Case	Corsair 5000D airflow tempered glass
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime GX-850W
Mouse	A4Tech V7M bloody
Keyboard	Genius KB-G255
Software	Windows 10 64bit

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Processor	Ryzen 9 5900X (July 2022), 150W PPT limit, 79C temp limit, CO -9~14
Motherboard	Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro (Rev1.0), BIOS F37h, AGESA V2 1.2.0.B
Cooling	Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420mm Rev7 with off center mount for Ryzen, TIM: Kryonaut
Memory	2x16GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo GTZN (July 2022) 3600MHz 1.42V CL16-16-16-16-32-48 1T, tRFC:288, B-die
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Nitro+ RX 7900XTX (Dec 2023) 314~465W (390W current) PowerLimit, 1060mV, Adrenalin v24.4.1
Storage	Samsung NVMe: 980Pro 1TB(OS 2022), 970Pro 512GB(2019) / SATA-III: 850Pro 1TB(2015) 860Evo 1TB(2020)
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Case	None... naked on desk
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Mouse	Logitech MX Master (Gen1)
Keyboard	Logitech G15 (Gen2) w/ LCDSirReal applet
Software	Windows 11 Home 64bit (v23H2, OSB 22631.3155)

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