Edge giving out of memory errors, most often while watching YouTube

[RJARRRPCGP]

Unstable RAM 100%.

Stay away from Corsair memory on AMD systems, they're nothing but trouble, this is from personal experience as well as from what I've seen in various other cases.

Did I just have terrible luck? My G.Skill mentioned above, appears to have failed, suspect the pandemic made the QC go down the pooper!

 

[faye]

Unstable RAM 100%.

Stay away from Corsair memory on AMD systems, they're nothing but trouble, this is from personal experience as well as from what I've seen in various other cases.

And yet I've had tons of issues with my last couple G.Skill kits, which is what everyone seems to recommend. The real issue is more like "RAM on AMD platforms is and has been bullshit for a while now."

 

[Vya Domus]

And yet I've had tons of issues with my last couple G.Skill kits, which is what everyone seems to recommend. The real issue is more like "RAM on AMD platforms is and has been bullshit for a while now."

Funnily enough if you check random posts on forums from people who have these sorts of problems it's almost always either corsair or G.Skill that they are using, with the former being a lot more common.

 

[Splinterdog]

I use Edge usually with a VPN and Corsair memory on an AMD system and haven't had any memory issues.
Just my two pennies worth to show that Corsair+AMD isn't always a problem.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Stay away from Corsair memory on AMD systems

This is not very logical or practical advice. Corsair produces dozens of different DDR4 and DDR5 RAM sticks using a wide variety of chips. The same chips, BTW, likely made by SK Hynix, Micron and Samsung that used by nearly all other RAM makers to make their sticks. AMD makes dozens of different processors. The possible number of combinations are nearly endless resulting millions and millions of AMD users running with Corsair RAM who are experiencing no problems.

The truth is, when it comes to RAM, it is typically most reliable of all computer products - other than, maybe the case, which is about as faithful as a pet rock. Almost all RAM from every maker has a lifetime warranty including Corsair RAM.

OF COURSE, a lifetime warranty does not ensure the devices cannot or will not fail. But it does indicate the faith and confidence the company has in the product.

As a technician, I've been in this business (IS/IT hardware support) professionally a long time - longer, probably, than most here have been alive. I have seen problems with Corsair. No denying that! We have also seen problems with Kingston, Micron, GSkill, Mushkin, Crucial, Patriot, and others, including off-brand generics - used on both AMD and Intel systems. But we have seen magnitudes more systems, with the same brands of RAM that work just fine with AMD and Intel CPUs.

The mere fact some users may be experiencing more problems with some Corsair than with other brands can easily be explained by the fact Corsair sells more RAM than most other brands.

The most likely cause for premature RAM failure is the user!

1. The user fails to ensure the selected RAM is compatible with the motherboard and CPU.​

2. The user mishandles/abuses the RAM causing physical damage to the contacts and/or the motherboard slots, or by zapping the chips through ESD.​

3. The user alters the timings/voltages from the default settings causing the RAM to become unstable.​

4. The user fails to ensure proper case cooling.​

Suggesting a specific model of RAM doesn't work well with a specific CPU or CPU/motherboard combination makes sense "IF" there is solid, verifiable evidence beyond a one-off anecdotal example. Suggesting an entire brand of RAM should not be used with an entire brand of processors because it causes "nothing but trouble" makes no sense at all. Where's the evidence?

Major RAM Brands Ranked Worst To Best (And Which Ones To Avoid) (slashgear.com)
The best RAM 2023: top memory for your PC | TechRadar
Best RAM in 2023 - IGN
The best RAM of 2023: Top memory upgrades for work and gaming | ZDNET
The best RAM for 2022 | Digital Trends
Best RAM Brands for 2021 - Top Six Manufacturers Compared (premiumbuilds.com)
Best RAM for Gaming 2023: Fast, Cheap and RGB | Tom's Hardware (tomshardware.com)

 

[freeagent]

From my time on the forums, and my own limited experience.. the most compatible, reliable, and stable ram is Samsung B-Die.

All this new 3200 16-20-20- stuff is garbage.. I have a set too

 

[faye]

From my time on the forums, and my own limited experience.. the most compatible, reliable, and stable ram is Samsung B-Die.

All this new 3200 16-20-20- stuff is garbage.. I have a set too

Is there a reasonably priced 32GB set of B-die even available at this point? I'll happily buy it (up to around $100) and return the Corsair.

 

[freeagent]

Is there a reasonably priced 32GB set of B-die even available at this point? I'll happily buy it (up to around $100) and return the Corsair.

Probably not for that cheap, I would check out B-Die finder.

 

[faye]

Probably not for that cheap, I would check out B-Die finder.

Eh. Going to swap the Corsair for this G.Skill kit tomorrow. Same price, slightly tighter timings, hopefully runs at XMP and doesn't make me raise voltage. https://www.microcenter.com/product...-channel-memory-kit-f4-3600c16d-32gtznc-black

 

[Shrek]

I may have missed it, but did you try another browser?

 

[Psychoholic]

Not just G.skill, but specifically G.skill "flare X/X5" seem to be the "it just works" memory for AMD.

 

[faye]

I may have missed it, but did you try another browser?

Yes, and it was an issue with my RAM. Still fighting with AMD/LG and HDR weirdness, but the browser specific stuff is resolved.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Yeah I don't know. Seems to be an early indicator of RAM voltage being set too low. I bumped it up a tiny bit and it went away

Ah! Ok, so it's a hardware problem.

Stay away from Corsair memory on AMD systems, they're nothing but trouble

Nonsense. I have never seen this and regularly use Corsair on Ryzen systems.

 

[freeagent]

Nonsense. I have never seen this and regularly use Corsair on Ryzen systems.

I think its their lower end stuff that I see people having the most problems with. Lots of issues, not sure if it is operator error or what..

 

[bonehead123]

Corsair is known for not playing nice with Ryzen

^^THIS^^

Has been an issue for quite a while, and has been noted by numerous users over the past few years. As of now, I haven't ever heard a solid explanation of why or how to fix it, other than the above voltage tweak, or the "AMD's memory controller incompatibility" statements...

 

[lexluthermiester]

I think its their lower end stuff that I see people having the most problems with. Lots of issues, not sure if it is operator error or what..

I buy the value options too. Never had problems. XMP profiles can be a pain on some motherboards, but if you ignore them and manually set speed options they work perfectly.

 

[Dr. Dro]

And yet I've had tons of issues with my last couple G.Skill kits, which is what everyone seems to recommend. The real issue is more like "RAM on AMD platforms is and has been bullshit for a while now."

I'm sure this incident is nothing major, really it's only another isolated case™ with a touch of user error®

I think its their lower end stuff that I see people having the most problems with. Lots of issues, not sure if it is operator error or what..

Faye doesn't strike me as the type of person that would just build their machine haphazardly and force settings by enabling things like DOCP without any regard for stability or anything. The honest truth is, AMD systems tend to be quite buggy and unreliable at anything beyond the most bare, bog standard settings you can have them running at. The internet has made a darling out of AMD, and often the ugly truth is never spoken of in stead of this corporation's defense.

In retrospect, while my Ryzen 5950X machine was rather performant, it was also a freakshow of nightmarish obscure bugs and issues almost all of which required AGESA, and thus BIOS updates to be resolved. From incorrect memory training causing active loss of achievable frequency and stability issues, to USB dropouts (somehow caused by broken timing code that caused a conflict with PCIe gen 4) and unpredictable full system stutter (later that we learned it was caused a by firmware TPM bug), and don't even get me started on their false statements about X370 support. Ironically, the "ancient chipset that wasn't worth supporting" ended up one of the stablest platforms you could run these chips with. Even today, reputation of boards such as the Crosshair 6 series are marred for their "instability" whereas once you update them, all the bugs are magically gone, i.e. it was all AGESA level problems as usual.

I used Corsair Dominator Platinum memory with my old socket AM4 PC. It was relatively smooth sailing (whenever the horribly broken memory training didn't get in the way), but I also double checked the IC (it was Samsung B-die) and I made sure to use relatively relaxed timings to ensure that the controller played ball. AGESA bugs regarding training were horrible right up to the last few releases (1.2.0.7 was the latest AGESA I had the chance to use, and the one I had the best experience with).

 

[freeagent]

Faye doesn't strike me as the type of person that would just build their machine haphazardly and force settings by enabling things like DOCP without any regard for stability or anything.

I did not mean Faye per say, I mean people who were having the problems with Corsair. I had issues with their DDR2 and a PSU, and since I can hold a grudge, I don't buy their stuff lol..

The honest truth is, AMD systems tend to be quite buggy and unreliable at anything beyond the most bare, bog standard settings you can have them running at. The internet has made a darling out of AMD, and often the ugly truth is never spoken of in stead of this corporation's defense.

I have never run my AMD systems at stock for more than a few hours.. I run the piss out of mine with settings people say or have said are complete nonsense. Yet there I am running circles I do agree though, people have more problems running AMD than Intel it seems. Though I have had Intel frustration boxes.. they are the exact same as an AMD frustration box.. waste of money

In retrospect, while my Ryzen 5950X machine was rather performant, it was also a freakshow of nightmarish obscure bugs and issues almost all of which required AGESA, and thus BIOS updates to be resolved. From incorrect memory training causing active loss of achievable frequency and stability issues, to USB dropouts (somehow caused by broken timing code that caused a conflict with PCIe gen 4) and unpredictable full system stutter (later that we learned it was caused a by firmware TPM bug)

I did have my keyboard drop out maybe once or twice a week while on B550, this CH8 is really nice to use. No dropouts, no funk, it just seems to work. I did not have AGESA issues, I did have 8GB VRAM issues though

I have a pair of Dominators too, they were reliable for me, and they clock ok, not the best, but not the worst..

 

[evelynharthbrooke]

Unstable/incompatible RAM.

Stay away from Corsair memory on AMD systems, they're nothing but trouble, this is from personal experience as well as from what I've seen in various other cases.

Strongly disagree here. I had Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 @ 3800 MHz (overclocked slightly from its XMP profile of 3600 MHz) running in my previous Ryzen 7 5800X system with absolutely no problems at all. That system has now been handed down to my mom to use and she hasn't had any issues either, and I already set its XMP profile to default for her. (I did not OC it because I don't need her system becoming at all potentially unreliable due to a memory OC issue)

Sometimes things fail. It happens with pretty much any computer component aside from a case as was mentioned later in this thread. Avoiding Corsair memory isn't necessary.

 

[A Computer Guy]

Strongly disagree here. I had Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 @ 3800 MHz (overclocked slightly from its XMP profile of 3600 MHz) running in my previous Ryzen 7 5800X system with absolutely no problems at all. That system has now been handed down to my mom to use and she hasn't had any issues either, and I already set its XMP profile to default for her. (I did not OC it because I don't need her system becoming at all potentially unreliable due to a memory OC issue)

Sometimes things fail. It happens with pretty much any computer component aside from a case as was mentioned later in this thread. Avoiding Corsair memory isn't necessary.

When I used to hang out on the Corsair forums I think the most problematic Corsair sticks were those DDR4-3000 models and with some XMP models prior to AMD branded support. I often found tweaking the ram timings a bit solved the problem since XMP is/was geared toward Intel memory controllers those timings wouldn't play nice with AMD. Later UEFI/BIOS revisions sorted most the problems. Most of the time for the models I had at least bumping up tRC a few points solved the problem.

My LPX DDR4-3600 kit never had issues and also OC's to DDR4-3800 no problem.

Should I just swap out this kit? I'm so tired of fighting with this machine. Everything finally settled in, now this. I can get any other DDR4 kit at Microcenter in Madison Heights, MI. At this point I don't care about cost, I just want it to work.

Since no one else will ever bring this up I thought to mention I looked up your motherboard (Gigabyte X570 I Aorus Pro WiFi ITX) and was surprised it supported ECC. Assuming the implementation is as good as ASRocks you can try Nemix DDR4-3200 PC4-25600 2Rx8 ECC Unbuffered Memory (2 sticks, 64GB, micron) and not worry so much about memory errors. (Windows 10 will report if errors are being corrected)
YMMV but these will OC to DDR4-3200 CL16 / DDR4-3600 CL18 and being your only 2 DIMM slot board it should be easy but honestly running them stock is just fine too if your not bother about chasing the best performance numbers.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

From my time on the forums, and my own limited experience.. the most compatible, reliable, and stable ram is Samsung B-Die.

All this new 3200 16-20-20- stuff is garbage.. I have a set too

The new G.Skill RipJaws RAM kit that I have, isn't loosy-goosy like that. It's 16-18-18-.

 

[freeagent]

The new G.Skill RipJaws RAM kit that I have, isn't loosy-goosy like that. It's 16-18-18-.

My Adatas are so bad I can’t bring myself to recycle them, so they sit beside some other problem ram from back in the day as a reminder to not buy from them anymore

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

My Adatas are so bad I can’t bring myself to recycle them, so they sit beside some other problem ram from back in the day as a reminder to not buy from them anymore

Funny that my Adata 2x8 GB kit is a whole lot better than that G.Skill TridentZ Neo 2x16 GB kit. I also got a better Geekbench result, right after taking out that G.Skill TridentZ Neo kit, IIRC.
Windows felt like it may have also been faster after popping in the Adata Spectrix D41 kit. Something's really amiss with that incident back in May.

 

[68Olds]

Eh. Going to swap the Corsair for this G.Skill kit tomorrow. Same price, slightly tighter timings, hopefully runs at XMP and doesn't make me raise voltage. https://www.microcenter.com/product...-channel-memory-kit-f4-3600c16d-32gtznc-black

I've been running that G.Skill kit in my X570 Gigabyte board since Aug 2020 & it has been great. I hope you have the same result.
It's not as fast as B-Die in benches, but you certainly aren't going to feel the difference.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

I've been running that G.Skill kit in my X570 Gigabyte board since Aug 2020 & it has been great. I hope you have the same result.
It's not as fast as B-Die in benches, but you certainly aren't going to feel the difference.

I wish my first 2x16 GB kit would still have been going with no errors! Maybe it still works, but only works correctly at laughably low temps!