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So after college life took over, family happened and all that ... I moved into more laptops/mac mini and all that. However, now I have gotten into video editing and the laptops are just not cutting it as there is still lag when working with the videos and quite annoying.

Main use:
1) The main software I will be using is Davinci Resolve

Secondary (not to skew any hardware purchases)
2) There might be some Modern Warefare in there, but thats not a big reason for anything bought.


Currently, my laptop is:
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BUDGET (and country you are buying them in) - Sub $1200 and buying in the US
PURPOSE OF THE BUILD - Video Editing (Davinci Resolve)
ITEMS YOU NEED/ALREADY HAVE - Have monitor, GPU, most peripherals
OVERCLOCK OR NOT? No OC

CPU - Thinking of AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 8-Core or AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core ... I think those should be powerful enough to do what I need, plus the 65w should help keep things cooler. Unless I need to go with something more powerful?
Motherboard - No need to OC or get into the crazy high end boards. A solid, middle of the road board is fine.
Graphics Card - Already own a XFX RX 5700 Xt Thicc III Ultra 8GB Boost Up to 2025MHz GDDR6 3xDP HDMI Graphics Card
RAM - debating 32-64GB. Brand and speeds, not sure yet
SSD's/HDD's - Looking for probably a 250GB for just the OS drive, then another SSD about 1-2TB for everything else. Brand and speeds not sure yet. Looked into Samsung seems legit these days. Not sure if the M.2 SSD should be the OS drive or the regular work drive yet.
Case - Something that can hold it all :) ... This will be under a desk in a corner, not a center piece on top of the desk so pretty doesnt matter.
PSU - Back in my day (yes I feel old now) Modular PSU's were just becoming a thing ... would love a modular one now if possible to help with wire management. Was looking into Seasonic FOCUS GX-750, 750W 80+ Gold or be quiet! Straight Power 11 850W, BN620, Fully Modular, 80 Plus Gold, (or a competitor matching the same specs. I think 750/850w should be fine with no OC'ing ??)
Monitor - Already have this, LG 34WN80C-B 34 inch 21:9 Curved UltraWide WQHD IPS
Operating System - Windows 11
Peripherals - Already have Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse - speakers I was going to go with Edifier R1280T Powered Bookshelf Speakers
Cooling - Stock with GPU ... for CPU, I was thinking Noctua NH-D15S, Premium Dual-Tower CPU Cooler with NF-A15 PWM 140mm Fan
 
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Do you want to stay with DDR4 or futureproof your stuff with DDR5? Since you're going into video editing I suggest the latter.

Samsung 980 250GB is the perfect budget NVMe drive for your OS

MOBO: ASUS makes the best motherboards in my personal opinion, and they have currently the best selection of DDR5-ready mobos.

Corsair HX750 750W Platinum is highly recommended if you can afford it, no idea about US prices tho

SilentiumPC Fortis 5 (SPC307) dual fan version CPU cooler is much much cheaper than the Noctua, and dead silent. if you can get it in the States. You can save some money this way and spend more on other more important stuff
 
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The psu in this build is manufactured for Phanteks by Seasonic.

https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-focus-2-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352191
Fractal Design Focus 2 Black Mid Tower Computer Case $54.99


Rear exhaust fan for that case.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GJGF56L
ARCTIC P12 PWM 120mm 4-Pin Case Fan $9.54

https://www.newegg.com/phanteks-amp-ph-p850g-850w/p/N82E16817987011
Phanteks Amp 850W 80+ GOLD Modular Power Supply $129.99

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144543
MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR5 $159.99


Intel Core i7-12700F $200.00


DeepCool AG620 Dual-Tower CPU Cooler $49.99


Team T-Force Vulcan DDR5 5200 32GB (2x16GB) CL40 $134.99

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1614794-REG/pny_technologies_m280cs2130_2tb_rb_2tb_cs2130_nvme_m_2.html
PNY CS2130 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe Gen 3 x4 SSD $139.99

Total: $879.98 USD

 
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isnt the 13600k better than the 12700, and about the same price?
 
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isnt the 13600k better than the 12700, and about the same price?
The 13600KF is retailing for $308 USD. The extra $108 can be applied towards a gpu/psu. There isn't a whole lot of difference between those two cpu's in regards to productivity.

 
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I would not recommend CPU's without iGPU unless you have a working dedicated spare GPU....
 
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To be clear the type of load your program and personal use of it place on hardware should dictate what you purchase. Video editing can mean a lot things.

My non-specific suggestion is to look at a workstation. That almost entirely means HP. Lucas among others invested in building up their offerings that leak far enough down the line for consumers to see. Do some research into whether avoiding pitfalls of consumer hardware meet your desires. The HP Outlet can be a valuable place to look for items with active warranty or you can look at somewhere like ebay for something with it still intact.

 
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Add a psu & gpu.

https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-focus-2-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352191
Fractal Design Focus 2 Black Mid Tower Computer Case $54.99


Rear exhaust fan for that case.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GJGF56L
ARCTIC P12 PWM 120mm 4-Pin Case Fan $9.54

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144543
MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR5 $159.99


Intel Core i7-12700F $200.00


DeepCool AG620 Dual-Tower CPU Cooler $49.99


Team T-Force Vulcan DDR5 5200 32GB (2x16GB) CL40 $134.99

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1614794-REG/pny_technologies_m280cs2130_2tb_rb_2tb_cs2130_nvme_m_2.html
PNY CS2130 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe Gen 3 x4 SSD $139.99

Total: $749.49 USD

Thanks for this!! Will start looking into these

The 13600KF is retailing for $308 USD. The extra $108 can be applied towards a gpu/psu. There isn't a whole lot of difference between those two cpu's in regards to productivity.

Thanks for that, I do have a GPU already, so I dont need to purchase one of those


questions though ...

1)I swear I remember hearing AMD was coming in on top these days, however researching and looks like the old days where Intel was still king in most categories. what happened?
2) Does the M.2 SSD need to be the OS and then the 2.5" normal SSD's be the additional add on for programs and all that ... to get the best speeds out of everything?
 
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Thanks for this!! Will start looking into these


Thanks for that, I do have a GPU already, so I dont need to purchase one of those


questions though ...

1)I swear I remember hearing AMD was coming in on top these days, however researching and looks like the old days where Intel was still king in most categories. what happened?
2) Does the M.2 SSD need to be the OS and then the 2.5" normal SSD's be the additional add on for programs and all that ... to get the best speeds out of everything?
No difference on what SSD is used for the O/S and what SSD is used for storage. As far as the AMD vs Intel thing .... the 12700F at $200 is a steal. That and it's time to jump on the DDR5 train ... unless you aren't wealthy and you live in Canada, Australia or the EU.
 
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Since it seems you don’t update very often I would go as high as reasonable with an upgrade.



Read articles on Pudget Systems about recommended hardware for particular software, they usually have pretty good ones, here is one about DaVinci Resolve

https://www.pugetsystems.com/soluti...ons/davinci-resolve/hardware-recommendations/

(they may have more info)



  1. I would keep your graphic card since I don’t think anything significantly better will fit in your budget. You may upgrade it in the future if needed (and have more funds)
  2. Seems like DaVinci will benefit from more cores, so Intel 13th gen may be a better choice. Also QuickSync available with Intel integrated graphic can be used by DaVinci, i.e., if you go with Intel make sure it is a CPU with integrated graphic (not a KF or F)
  3. For SSD I personally buy biggest and best for system drive (within reason of course) – I hate reinstalling Windows only because I want to upgrade main SSD. I would look at Samsung 990 Pro 1TB, or 980 Pro (still good drive) and you can get 1TB for little more than $100 while 990 Pro 1TB is about $180.
  4. For memory you may see if you can get 64GB reasonably priced. I think 32GB should be enough but memory is pretty cheap currently (comparing what it was not that long ago). If you go with new AMD you will need DDR5 which is somewhat more expensive than DDR4. Intel 13th gen can run DDR4 but it needs different motherboard. Also if you need to buy new memory anyway (you have 16GB I think from your spec) I would go DDR5. I recently upgraded to i9-13900K and I bought MSI Z790 Tomahawk DDR4 but only because I already had 32GB DDR and I don’t feel like needing more at this time. Intel 13th gen will hit 100C and throttle but my 13900K is very close to tests I saw with liquid cooling (like 5% less in Cinebench).
  5. For cooler Noctua NH-D15S is top range for air cooling, you may also look at Noctua NH-U12A chromax.Black (black has denser fins than non-black), some claim it is close/better than D15S and it has less clearance issues. They are both expensive though, I think Thermalright Frost Commander 140 BLACK is also good but price is close to Noctua
  6. For a case I have no idea, I kept my old case so I don’t know what is going on in cases currently.
  7. PSU buy quality one, Seasonic is obvious contender but think future, is there a possibility you will upgrade your graphic card, if yes 850W would be my minimum maybe even bit more.


Do you have Microcenter close enough, they usually have hard to beat deals on CPU-s, SSD-s and some other components?

the 12700F at $200 is a steal
12700F may be cheap but has less cores than 13th gen and has no embedded graphics, so no QuickSync and it seems DaVinci can use hardware acceleration provided by QuickSync

2) Does the M.2 SSD need to be the OS and then the 2.5" normal SSD's be the additional add on for programs and all that ... to get the best speeds out of everything?
For me "normal" SSD has a bottleneck at interface.
Until new connector gets adapted (it already started in server space) I would not buy new SSD with "kind of" SATA interface
This is happening but still time to go, IMHO for now M.2 NVME is a way to go.
If you buy new motherboard you will most likely have 3 or 4 slots for it.
 
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Thanks for all the info ... It has given me a ton to go research for sure ...

CPU - Intel Core i5-13600K $319
Motherboard -
Graphics Card - Already own a XFX RX 5700 Xt Thicc III Ultra 8GB Boost Up to 2025MHz GDDR6 3xDP HDMI Graphics Card
RAM - CORSAIR Vengeance 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 5200 $260
SSD's - OS Drive - SAMSUNG 980 M.2 2280 250GB PCI-Express 3.0 x4, NVMe 1.4 $51 ... Storage Drive - Crucial P3 4TB PCIe 3.0 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD $212
Case - Fractal Design North $140
PSU - Seasonic FOCUS PX-850, 850W 80+ Platinum $189
Monitor - Already have this, LG 34WN80C-B 34 inch 21:9 Curved UltraWide WQHD IPS
Cooling - DeepCool GAMMAXX AG620 Dual-Tower CPU Cooler $43

Total: $1,214 (without MB)


thoughts on the build so far? I really dont have an idea on Mobo ... I have looked at reviews, but there are so many options haha.

Slightly above what I was looking to spend, but I think I future proofed quite a bit ... Also, I was going to get a cheaper case, until I saw that masterpiece and just have to have it!!
 

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So after college life took over, family happened and all that ... I moved into more laptops/mac mini and all that. However, now I have gotten into video editing and the laptops are just not cutting it as there is still lag when working with the videos and quite annoying.

Main use:
1) The main software I will be using is Davinci Resolve

Secondary (not to skew any hardware purchases)
2) There might be some Modern Warefare in there, but thats not a big reason for anything bought.


Currently, my laptop is:
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BUDGET (and country you are buying them in) - Sub $1200 and buying in the US
PURPOSE OF THE BUILD - Video Editing (Davinci Resolve)
ITEMS YOU NEED/ALREADY HAVE - Have monitor, GPU, most peripherals
OVERCLOCK OR NOT? No OC

CPU - Thinking of AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 8-Core or AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core ... I think those should be powerful enough to do what I need, plus the 65w should help keep things cooler. Unless I need to go with something more powerful?
Motherboard - No need to OC or get into the crazy high end boards. A solid, middle of the road board is fine.
Graphics Card - Already own a XFX RX 5700 Xt Thicc III Ultra 8GB Boost Up to 2025MHz GDDR6 3xDP HDMI Graphics Card
RAM - debating 32-64GB. Brand and speeds, not sure yet
SSD's/HDD's - Looking for probably a 250GB for just the OS drive, then another SSD about 1-2TB for everything else. Brand and speeds not sure yet. Looked into Samsung seems legit these days. Not sure if the M.2 SSD should be the OS drive or the regular work drive yet.
Case - Something that can hold it all :) ... This will be under a desk in a corner, not a center piece on top of the desk so pretty doesnt matter.
PSU - Back in my day (yes I feel old now) Modular PSU's were just becoming a thing ... would love a modular one now if possible to help with wire management. Was looking into Seasonic FOCUS GX-750, 750W 80+ Gold or be quiet! Straight Power 11 850W, BN620, Fully Modular, 80 Plus Gold, (or a competitor matching the same specs. I think 750/850w should be fine with no OC'ing ??)
Monitor - Already have this, LG 34WN80C-B 34 inch 21:9 Curved UltraWide WQHD IPS
Operating System - Windows 11
Peripherals - Already have Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse - speakers I was going to go with Edifier R1280T Powered Bookshelf Speakers
Cooling - Stock with GPU ... for CPU, I was thinking Noctua NH-D15S, Premium Dual-Tower CPU Cooler with NF-A15 PWM 140mm Fan
Grab a 5700 or 5800 OEM
 

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Grab a 5700 or 5800 OEM

5700-5800 what?

For your SSD NVMe OS drive, I'd go with the Samsung 980 Pro version as that's a PCIe 4.0 and will be much quicker for most everything.


And, damn good to see you around again brother!!!!!!!! :peace:
Ah ok good call..

Hah! Good to see you Stinger!! Hope all is well with you bud it has been a looong time
 

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5700-5800 what?


Ah ok good call..

Hah! Good to see you Stinger!! Hope all is well with you bud it has been a looong time
For the AM4 rigRyzen 5700 or 5800 OEM

For your SSD NVMe OS drive, I'd go with the Samsung 980 Pro version as that's a PCIe 4.0 and will be much quicker for most everything.


And, damn good to see you around again brother!!!!!!!! :peace:
I'd put active cooling on any m.2 drive
 
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Hmm, I don't see a point for active cooling on m.2 drive
Except benchmarks, some heavy database use or similar scenarios they don't heat that much in regular use.
Heatsink, sure but any new motherboard will have chunk of aluminum that goes on installed m.2, that's more than enough IMHO.

Get at least 512GB for main drive :)

You can save on PSU, pretty much same one

Check Provantage for other components, they don't come up in Gooogle search, I guess they don't care, they supply businesses,, I know them because my company was buying stuff from them (and I did as well)

Edit: ops, you picked Platinum so I guess, no saving :-/
 
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For the AM4 rigRyzen 5700 or 5800 OEM


I'd put active cooling on any m.2 drive
Ah ok. My bad haha.

what active cooling do you recommend?

Hmm, I don't see a point for active cooling on m.2 drive
Except benchmarks, some heavy database use or similar scenarios they don't heat that much in regular use.
Heatsink, sure but any new motherboard will have chunk of aluminum that goes on installed m.2, that's more than enough IMHO.

Get at least 512GB for main drive :)

You can save on PSU, pretty much same one

Check Provantage for other components, they don't come up in Gooogle search, I guess they don't care, they supply businesses,, I know them because my company was buying stuff from them (and I did as well)

Edit: ops, you picked Platinum so I guess, no saving :-/
512 for an OS drive? Price isn’t much difference but just curious why? Longevity?
 

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If you weren't aware Davinci Resolve 17 / 18 supports GPU acceleration for decoding and encoding. It has to be the paid version though. I found some claims saying CUDA is 30% faster in this compared to OpenCL. Also a bunch of forums posts of people having issues with getting OpenCL to work properly. I don't know if its been fixed or not. But its a consideration none the less.
 
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If you weren't aware Davinci Resolve 17 / 18 supports GPU acceleration for decoding and encoding. It has to be the paid version though. I found some claims saying CUDA is 30% faster in this compared to OpenCL. Also a bunch of forums posts of people having issues with getting OpenCL to work properly. I don't know if its been fixed or not. But its a consideration none the less.

Ya, I am still in the testing phase so far and have not bought the full version. Debating between this and premiere pro at the moment, but still working through davinci at the moment.

Also, just curious ... do I need an m.2 drive for the storage/program holding piece? Or would a 2.5" ssd be just fine for that one? I know I am losing speed, but wondering if it would even matter for this use ... Was thinking I could maybe get a bigger 2.5" drive than an M.2 one for cheaper
 
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I don't know about Resolve. For Premiere it might help

It use to be a thing to put footage on the fastest drive you have for scrubbing. If I didn't put my 4k footage on a nvme, it would lag around. That seems to be somewhat resolved. The max footage I have is 6K RED and it still lags around at max resolution. Might just be a GPU thing.
 
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I don't know about Resolve. For Premiere it might help

It use to be a thing to put footage on the fastest drive you have for scrubbing. If I didn't put my 4k footage on a nvme, it would lag around. That seems to be somewhat resolved. The max footage I have is 6K RED and it still lags around at max resolution. Might just be a GPU thing.
which editing software are you using for this? I would assume 6k would max out most rigs that are not studio grade though ...
 
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Which is why I suggested looking at a HP workstation if you are serious about the video editing part.

The deal with their outlet, at used to be - been a while, is waiting for a really good deal and jumping on it.
So obviously by deal I mean higher level model with low spec. Add NVMe and GPU to flavor.
Good board, processor, psu, and especially the case which is privy to a lot of intelligent design. Really amazing air channeling and overall design.
Otherwise the typical (retail and not corporate bulk discount pricing) selection largely mirrors the main site builds where you pay 10x the going retail for RAM/SSD/etc.
What you are buying for there is a professional level of warranty assurance for years beyond what you'll get with consumer grade hardware.
 
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Thanks for all the info ... It has given me a ton to go research for sure ...

CPU - Intel Core i5-13600K $319
Motherboard -
Graphics Card - Already own a XFX RX 5700 Xt Thicc III Ultra 8GB Boost Up to 2025MHz GDDR6 3xDP HDMI Graphics Card
RAM - CORSAIR Vengeance 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 5200 $260
SSD's - OS Drive - SAMSUNG 980 M.2 2280 250GB PCI-Express 3.0 x4, NVMe 1.4 $51 ... Storage Drive - Crucial P3 4TB PCIe 3.0 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD $212
Case - Fractal Design North $140
PSU - Seasonic FOCUS PX-850, 850W 80+ Platinum $189
Monitor - Already have this, LG 34WN80C-B 34 inch 21:9 Curved UltraWide WQHD IPS
Cooling - DeepCool GAMMAXX AG620 Dual-Tower CPU Cooler $43

Total: $1,214 (without MB)


thoughts on the build so far? I really dont have an idea on Mobo ... I have looked at reviews, but there are so many options haha.

Slightly above what I was looking to spend, but I think I future proofed quite a bit ... Also, I was going to get a cheaper case, until I saw that masterpiece and just have to have it!!
That's a really good build for that price and should be great for your work. But since this is for work, you might as go with an even more powerful Intel i7 or i9. The new Ryzen 7950x is good too. Don't bother with the older DDR4 platforms even though they are cheap. For work stuff you don't cheap out and it saves you money in the long run by spending more now.
 
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Which is why I suggested looking at a HP workstation if you are serious about the video editing part.

The deal with their outlet, at used to be - been a while, is waiting for a really good deal and jumping on it.
So obviously by deal I mean higher level model with low spec. Add NVMe and GPU to flavor.
Good board, processor, psu, and especially the case which is privy to a lot of intelligent design. Really amazing air channeling and overall design.
Otherwise the typical (retail and not corporate bulk discount pricing) selection largely mirrors the main site builds where you pay 10x the going retail for RAM/SSD/etc.
What you are buying for there is a professional level of warranty assurance for years beyond what you'll get with consumer grade hardware.

I have looked over the workstations .. from what I could find with about a $1500 and under price tag, are units nowhere near what I have above. Plus, almost all had 16-32gb ram and 250-500gb ssd ... so spending more + needing to go get more ram/ssd makes those prices even more expensive.

Is there something I am missing? Do they have crazy deals where they knock down like a $3k to 1500? How often do those deals come around? Not sure I can wait 3-6 months to hopefully maybe have a chance at a deal.

That's a really good build for that price and should be great for your work. But since this is for work, you might as go with an even more powerful Intel i7 or i9. The new Ryzen 7950x is good too. Don't bother with the older DDR4 platforms even though they are cheap. For work stuff you don't cheap out and it saves you money in the long run by spending more now.
I was debating the I7/9's, yes more powerful, but also thinking of the heat put off and power usage as well. Trying to find that happy medium of working in a sweat box, vs not lagging for years lol
 

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which editing software are you using for this? I would assume 6k would max out most rigs that are not studio grade though ...
I primary use Adobe premiere because it has a hold on the industry. Photoshop, illustrator, after effects are all seamless integrated. Makes projects go much much faster. I've found the more system memory you have and GPU VRAM, the smoother everything is. I had 64GB back in 2009 and that was a bit overkill, now 64GB can easily be filled while working on a project. Just depends your workflow. I like having a multiple programs open.
 
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