Intel Haswell Overclocking Clubhouse.

[fullinfusion]

Bios is good but we need some time to tweak it . The same settings with the 1505 bios dont work all that well with the new bios .

Asus did an ok job when the original bios programmer was there but no longer works for Asus... the new guy writing code is learning, to say the least! and I say that loosely... So Step it up guy! OC OC OC!

Your company depends on it.

Oh a side note all these BSOD don't need to be re-flashed as often... It's not as flaky as the previous version so yeah keep up the good work Asus bios man!

 

[TheHunter]

^
Yeah i noticed that too, newer had to use diff. settings.



I saw there is also one for my Deluxe too, same 4tb and optimized OC function.. But i didnt update yet, guess i'll give it a try soon

 

[TheHunter]

I didnt have anything new in DIGI+

but I also saw this CFG lock, what is this, its disabled by default?

EDIT: made a quick google and something about native kernel boot, so its best at disabled..
http://www.tonymacx86.com/bios-uefi...updates-msr-unlocked-boots-native-kernel.html

 

[fullinfusion]

@TheHunter Did you get any other memory options in the timings department?

 

[TheHunter]

@TheHunter Did you get any other memory options in the timings department?

Hm dunno, will have another peek now.


I think its all the same





Bandwidth looks the same too, although L3 read cache was a bit slow (had one screen with 240gb/s), maybe cause iRST C0 didnt fully kick in yet, I ran it right by log on.

 

[TheHunter]

Well fail, wish i never updated to this bios..

So many bsod its redicilous..


kernel exception code, kernel mode trap, kernel this kernel that..

latest one indicated memory oc issue 0x7F this bug trap.. Can it be because of this native kernel by C-states, this new setting, should I enable that lock bit or not?


@ Cadaveca
Can too low vDIO cause it too?

 

[cadaveca]

@ Cadaveca
Can too low vDIO cause it too?

Yep. Push it up a bit.

 

[TheHunter]

Ok will try tomorrow, I just tested windows memory diagnostic 5 rounds and it came clean..

Funny though I had vDIO 0.115v+ @ 4.7ghz with older bios and it was fine before..

Should I raise vccsa too or keep it as it is @ 0.040v + offset?

 

[cadaveca]

Hard to say. I'd look @ up to 1.25V DIO, and probably around 1.05-1.15V or so for 2400 MHz with all slots full. If you already have that level of VCCSA, I'd play wit hvDIO a bit, then try VCCSA boost. Might want to consider pushing vAIO close to vDIO, too.

 

[TheHunter]

Hard to say. I'd look @ up to 1.25V DIO, and probably around 1.05-1.15V or so for 2400 MHz with all slots full. If you already have that level of VCCSA, I'd play wit hvDIO a bit, then try VCCSA boost. Might want to consider pushing vAIO close to vDIO, too.

Im now at 0.125v+ offset, Idk whats the exact vDIO value though (mobo doesn't show it like ROG bios).. I always kept vAIO @ auto.

If I used ram current @ 120% I could keep both vDIO & vAIO @ auto, only VCCSA 0.055v+ offset, now with ram current @110% & manual vDIO I could lower VCCSA a bit @ 0.040v+ by 2400mhz OC with all 4 slots populated.


Will see how this 0.125v goes, so vAIO should be 0.050v+ lower or higher?



EDIT: well I gave up, higher VDIO heats alot, so I returned to my oldies goldies setting

vDIO @ auto, ram current 120% and Vccsa 0.050v+.

Also newest bios seems to use lower LLC and had to raise vccin to 1.77v instead of 1.75 or 1.76v., could have random resets at higher load.

 

[fullinfusion]

I found out that the new MFIV board has updated auto clock settings upto 4.8 and a good thing it dont go above 1.30V.

Asus keep it going, your almost there... 1.250 v for 4.8 manual for my chip..

 

[BQQSTED]

Hey guys! First post here. Originally was able to get my 4770k and Asus Hero to pass 10 loops of X264 with the setting below

bios 804
x47
vid 1.37
cache x34
ring 1.2
vccin 1.9
mem 1600
1.5

During this time I decided to upgrade to a Maximus Extreme and go acrylic tubing so my rig has been sitting for a couple months. Not sure if it's because of all the extra settings the M6E comes with. but I BSOD x124 immediately when I start x264.
I've done 20 loops successfully so far.

bios 1603
x45
vid 1.25
cache x34
vccin 1.8
mem 1500
1.5v


Current x45 settings





I did some lurking in this thread and made some changes to my x46 profile. With the new settings below, I bsod'd prior to win login with vid of 1.25. 1.3 still locks up on first loop




Am I headed in the right direction?

 

[TheHunter]

@ 4.6ghz did you try with VRM cpu phase control @ auto instead of optimized and maybe ram current to 110%, also vccsa raise its offset voltage form 0.040v or 0.050v+


Also why cache so low, keep @ auto 39x?

and do try to OC in XMP mode instead of manual, probably ram fault not using right advanced timings..

 

[BQQSTED]

@ 4.6ghz did you try with VRM cpu phase control @ auto instead of optimized and maybe ram current to 110%, also vccsa raise its offset voltage form 0.040v or 0.050v+


Also why cache so low, keep @ auto 39x?

and do try to OC in XMP mode instead of manual, probably ram fault not using right advanced timings..

Thanks for the reply! I'll give those settings a try.
The reason for the cache is to cancel it out while I try to find my max core speed then cache, then memory.

 

[BQQSTED]

Still 124. Maybe bad chip?

 

[TheHunter]

Then give it more even cpuv, another 0.005v+

 

[BQQSTED]

Then give it more even cpuv, another 0.005v+

Still 124. I've tried as high as 1.4v with vccin of 2.1. Still 124. Weird! I may just stick with x45 for now until I get a 4790k. If I can at least get past this, I won't have to upgrade even though upgrading isn't a bad idea either

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Skyrim keeps locking up for me, and am 99% sure its not because of my GPU because I am not getting driver unresponsive errors, and it happens when my GPU is at stock. Screen just freezes up. However i can do CTRL ALT DEL and restart my system. So I am not sure if its the just game messing up (I have a ton of mods installed, but they shouldnt be causing this honestly), or if it something to do with my CPU/Memory. I got this same issue back when I was working on 4.5GHZ on my CPU and was getting lock ups in BF4. I have it at 4.4GHZ 1.295vcore, not sure on the rest. I can get that tomorrow if you guys need it to help me out a bit.

 

[BQQSTED]

Skyrim keeps locking up for me, and am 99% sure its not because of my GPU because I am not getting driver unresponsive errors, and it happens when my GPU is at stock. Screen just freezes up. However i can do CTRL ALT DEL and restart my system. So I am not sure if its the just game messing up (I have a ton of mods installed, but they shouldnt be causing this honestly), or if it something to do with my CPU/Memory. I got this same issue back when I was working on 4.5GHZ on my CPU and was getting lock ups in BF4. I have it at 4.4GHZ 1.295vcore, not sure on the rest. I can get that tomorrow if you guys need it to help me out a bit.

What happens if you run stock clocks on your cpu? Does it still lock up?

 

[BQQSTED]

So I'm starting to think my bsod problem isn't voltage related. Upping the volts should clear the 124. I'm starting to think it may be driver related somehow. I noticed I had an unknown device in device manager. Turns out it was the asus temp probe monitor or ACPI\PNP0A0A. I'll try again tonight!

 

[MxPhenom 216]

What happens if you run stock clocks on your cpu? Does it still lock up?

Haven't tried, but talked to @cadaveca and said I should try increase VCCSA or Memory. Just bumped VCCSA from +0.045 to +0.050.

Also here is a screen shot of all my voltages for everyone. @TheHunter

I thought maybe it was my eventual input voltage, but its already at 1.91v, which might be higher than i remember needing to running for 1.295v for 4.4GHZ.

 

[cadaveca]

Could even be that eventual voltage is too high, although you'd think that that would cause other problems than an app crash. Could simply be a driver problem you are dealing with.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Could even be that eventual voltage is too high, although you'd think that that would cause other problems than an app crash. Could simply be a driver problem you are dealing with.

I dont get an app crash error, it just locks up and i have to CTRL ALT DEL to reboot. I can't get Task Manager to come up to end the Skyrim Task. It just sits there with an icon in the bottom tool bar but the Task manager window wont actually show up.

I think after doing some reading, its likely not from system instability but the 81 mods i have installed for the game......

Might of fixed it with sorting my load order using LOOT (utility for Skyrim plugins) and boosting VCCSA to +0.050v.

 

[El_Mayo]

Hi guys, what kinda temps do you get running Prime95 Small FFTs? I'm somewhere around the 95 degree mark and it's distressing, even at stock settings. Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power heatsink

Thanks

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Hi guys, what kinda temps do you get running Prime95 Small FFTs? I'm somewhere around the 95 degree mark and it's distressing, even at stock settings. Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power heatsink

Thanks

What version of Prime 95? Ive seen the most recent not really advised for Haswell due to the amount heat. I tend to loop a x264 benchmark for couple hours for initial stress testing, then use games, and benchmarks.

I dont see much of a point in using a synthetic way of stressing like Prime 95, because there really isn't much out there in terms of real world, that will stress it that hard.