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Is It The 1080 TI The Best GPU Ever?

Is It The 1080 TI The Best GPU Ever?


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I just watched video by Gamer Nexus:"The Greatest GPU of All Time Nvidia 1080TI 2024 Revisit" ...Then I asked myself:"Is It...Really?" remembering all my previous gpu's starting long time ago from the very first 3d cards when they arrived at the end od the '90's till this days there was some GPU's that have huge impact on gaming industry there is almost 26 years now from the first RIVA TNT card and then who could forget Voodoo 3dfx cards Ati Rage...Matrox....GeForce 256.....GeForce FX Series.....ATI 9000.....majestic 8800GTX.....etc....and then we come to the "modern 2010-" era where we also have some really awesome GPU's....So the question is simple Is It The 1080 TI really The Best Card Ever if we put following parameters as the most important:

1)Performance
2)Price
3)Tech Innovation
4)Longevity


What is your opinion is the 1080TI the best GPU ever if not what card do you believe is better then 1080 TI....please share your opinion with us bellow.....
1)Performance - good
2)Price - overpriced
3)Tech Innovation - umm, nope, "innovations" has started from 20xx series
4)Longevity - yeah, but you will find it hard to get a GOOD condition, so worthless purchase if over $100 this time. I wouldn't trust anyone, GDDR5X and 250W.. you know.. also, good perf for mining...
 
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I just watched video by Gamer Nexus:"The Greatest GPU of All Time Nvidia 1080TI 2024 Revisit" ...Then I asked myself:"Is It...Really?" remembering all my previous gpu's starting long time ago from the very first 3d cards when they arrived at the end od the '90's till this days there was some GPU's that have huge impact on gaming industry there is almost 26 years now from the first RIVA TNT card and then who could forget Voodoo 3dfx cards Ati Rage...Matrox....GeForce 256.....GeForce FX Series.....ATI 9000.....majestic 8800GTX.....etc....and then we come to the "modern 2010-" era where we also have some really awesome GPU's....So the question is simple Is It The 1080 TI really The Best Card Ever if we put following parameters as the most important:

1)Performance
2)Price
3)Tech Innovation
4)Longevity


What is your opinion is the 1080TI the best GPU ever if not what card do you believe is better then 1080 TI....please share your opinion with us bellow.....
I think HD7970 was actually better in that context. I think it ticks all the boxes you mention. It had performance at the time, price was not obscene, it was the first of completely different architecture (GCN vs TeraScale before) and you sure could get a lot of mileage out of it.

8800GTX was really pricey until AMD got their act together.

Older Geforces... I don't know. They made legacy, no doubt, but IIRC they got obsolete pretty quickly from lack of support for newer DX versions. Like at the time of DX9 everything older than FX was out of the question, and FX itself was not great. 6, 7 series I guess? Good GPUs, don't get me wrong, but didn't quite make the kind of impact to be considered.
 
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I think HD7970 was actually better in that context. I think it ticks all the boxes you mention. It had performance at the time, price was not obscene, it was the first of completely different architecture (GCN vs TeraScale before) and you sure could get a lot of mileage out of it.

8800GTX was really pricey until AMD got their act together.

Older Geforces... I don't know. They made legacy, no doubt, but IIRC they got obsolete pretty quickly from lack of support for newer DX versions. Like at the time of DX9 everything older than FX was out of the question, and FX itself was not great. 6, 7 series I guess? Good GPUs, don't get me wrong, but didn't quite make the kind of impact to be considered.
Yeah 7970 was GREAT card and as you mention it had it all 'tho starting price in 2012 was around 500$-550$ which means when we add inflation is something like 700$-750$ today which is still great for high-end card also we can said that longevity was almost as good as 1080TI and had great tech innovation......When it comes to the 8800GTX yeah it was expensive(600$ with inflation around 930$)but when that card was released in 2006 it was like we figure some Alien technology and reverse-engineered to get that majestic GPU it was so much better then anything else and after a while Nvidia released 8800GT for almost half the price and it was just a bit slower then GTX version for me 8800GT was much more significant just because of the price/performance.....Those old cards from end of the 90's era GeFore,Ati,Matrox,Voodoo cards was pioneers and it was exciting time because every time some of those company's release new cards you could see and feel something new and unusual those innovations was truly groundbreaking noting like todays ray-tracing BS :D ......
 
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Steam Survey is infinitely more trustworthy than whatever your opinions are LOL
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Well that wasn't my opinion dude I to was going by a steam survey that stated the 1650 was the most popular gpu :laugh:
See how reliable they are :slap:
 
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Well that wasn't my opinion dude I to was going by a steam survey that stated the 1650 was the most popular gpu :laugh:
See how reliable they are :slap:

Oh so you have concrete evidence that 1650 was not the most popular GPU?
Weird, some rando on the internet believe he is more reliable than Steam Survey LOL :roll:
 
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Oh so you have concrete evidence that 1650 was not the most popular GPU?
Weird, some rando on the internet believe he is more reliable than Steam Survey LOL :roll:
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There is an issue with your language translator dude
Best to reread my post and realize you got what I said backwards but I'm sure you know that and are just trolling :kookoo:

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Well that wasn't my opinion dude I to was going by a steam survey that stated the 1650 was the most popular gpu :laugh:
See how reliable they are :slap:
 
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There is an issue with your language translator dude
Best to reread my post and realize you got what I said backwards but I'm sure you know that and are just trolling :kookoo:

It's funny when you have no backing evidence that Steam Survey was wrong, yet so adamant that you were right :roll:

You might want to look into Dunning-Kruger effect
 
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FWIW :

Top 10 Most Popular Graphics Cards Ever ( According to 15 Years of Steam Survey GPU )

Now if the 1060 is the most popular ever (bang for the buck) from the Pascal architecture, then in my reasoning the 1080Ti is the G.O.A.T.

And the fact it is the one card I still have running in multiple builds. Before this card I never had a top tier card in any build.
Closest I had was a Matrox Parhelia AGP for running flightsimulator on triple screens.
 
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Same place that picked a 1650 as most popular :laugh:
Honestly, that tracks. Asian gaming ecafes count afterall, and they are a huge market.

There really is no legit reason to doubt the steam survey results I've ever seen presented short of "my feels say otherwise"
 

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Honestly I can't believe this conversation is still going over a GN video...

I owned quite a few pascal cards so it was a pretty good generation but I still don't feel the generation was overly noteworthy. People still complained about what the 1080 cost in 2016 and what the 1080ti cost in 2017, people called it a Maxwell refresh on a smaller node, the 1050 series was trash and still outsold the much better amd alternatives is probably the most memorable thing to me about that generation.

I honestly got more legs out of my 2080ti a much more hated gpu generation so it is what it is I guess.

Honestly, that tracks. Asian gaming ecafes count afterall, and they are a huge market.

There really is no legit reason to doubt the steam survey results I've ever seen presented short of "my feels say otherwise"

Yeah they wouldn't be doubting it if AMD had 70% of the results.... Apparently AMD gpu owners hate steam.

I don't really take the survey all that seriously if the 4080/4090/7900XTX were all 100 usd I wonder which would be #1 people buy what they can afford or at a min justify.
 
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Honestly, that tracks. Asian gaming ecafes count afterall, and they are a huge market.

There really is no legit reason to doubt the steam survey results I've ever seen presented short of "my feels say otherwise"
Sure, its just a very blunt tool in terms of data. You don't really know much about how the data is gathered, you're just trusting the neutralizing effect of big data to give you some ballpark idea of truth. Except in this case, that doesn't really work too well, because the most casual systems make up the bulk of its dataset.

Anyone logging into Steam once to play one game on an IGP is also included. There's no time limit to when that data expires.
 
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The 1080 Ti is one of my favourite GPUs of all time but the jump from the 7800 GTX to the 8800 GTX was way more crazy than anything else.
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Sure, its just a very blunt tool in terms of data. You don't really know much about how the data is gathered, you're just trusting the neutralizing effect of big data to give you some ballpark idea of truth. Except in this case, that doesn't really work too well, because the most casual systems make up the bulk of its dataset.

Anyone logging into Steam once to play one game on an IGP is also included. There's no time limit to when that data expires.
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Yeah anyone with half a brain disables steam... tracking as much as possible so that would include survey nonsense.
 

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the best gpu for me was the 8800 ultra, it's was my dream GPU at the time, it's destroyed everything. i wonder how this gpu would do today


the 1080 ti was not the best GPU ever but the last generation that improve the price/perf by a lot
8800U was just a factory overclocked GTX. You could just OC (or flash) a GTX to Ultra easily. Though Ultra had a hella lot cooler looking cooler (pun intended) ;)

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Yeah anyone with half a brain disables steam... tracking as much as possible so that would include survey nonsense.
Not an option when you have an account worth of ~7.3KEUR
 
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Yeah anyone with half a brain disables steam... tracking as much as possible so that would include survey nonsense.
Don't use the internet ever again then, don't use your phone either.
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The 1080 Ti is one of my favourite GPUs of all time but the jump from the 7800 GTX to the 8800 GTX was way more crazy than anything else.
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Honestly, that tracks. Asian gaming ecafes count afterall, and they are a huge market.

There really is no legit reason to doubt the steam survey results I've ever seen presented short of "my feels say otherwise"
It seems to favor new installations of Steam. I only had it once on my old PC, within 5 years. I installed Steam on Debian, got the survey. Then recently I got another PC and installed Steam, and then immediately got the survey before I could install a game.
 
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I didn't read the whole thread so I'm sorry if I miss some good points.

At the risk of earning some disdain, I'm going to declare I think it's slightly overstated to grant it the claim of "greatest of all time".

Let's look at what it supposedly has going for it, and here's why I think that.

Price? It was $700 and that's almost $900 in today's money. I think it might have been particularly good for the enthusiast class, but I think something accessible to only a tiny fraction of the market makes for a limited argument of "greatest of all time".

Longevity? How is longevity defined?

I don't think simply looking at "can it at least play 1080p at high" as a fair measure since if you were only after that in 2016/2017, you could simply buy a GTX 1060 instead for much less money. A GTX 1080 Ti was more of a 1440p or even fringe 4K product, no? It has definitely not retained that ability. I have no problem calling it relevant enough still. I have a problem with moving goal posts and say its longevity hasn't slipped like the rest of the market. It's definitely needed concessions the same as the rest, and people are also still using lesser GPUs than it still today. Do they win longevity points? No? Why not?

There's also a particular point that i think needs said here. What if that longevity is earned simply because the majority of the rest of the market has slowed in growth? After all, an RTX 4090 being much faster doesn't mean much when the majority of the market isn't seeing similar levels of uplift, and the majority of the games have to be developed with the majority of the market in mind (I believe this is also why there's so many complaints of poor optimization of games in recent years, because games are rubbing up against a slowing market growth). When the majority of the games have to be playable on this more slowly increasing average point, then of course the GTX 1080 Ti will remain more relevant. Let's not forget that the GTX 1060 sat as the most popular GPU on Steam's hardware survey forever, and then the GTX 1650 displaced it! Growth has been very slow until the huge over supply of RTX 30 series finally flowed out and the RTX 3060 displaced it... which I believe still only equals the GTX 1080 Ti, give or take? New generations are two years (and growing?) now, not one. Nobody batted an eye at a graphics card being relevant three generations later back then. Even mid-range ones often did that. If just doing that garners a stake to such a prestigious claim, then I say that's more a sad sign of how much things have slowed overall and less of a sign that a particular GPU from the tail end before that slowing point is the best of all time. We saw this with CPUs already; when gains were slowing in the early 2010s, a lot of CPUs saw some serious longevity. Does every single one of those deserve awards for a stagnating market around them? I'd say hardly.

Strong uplift over predecessor? It was a cut down Titan (I think?) but it launched as the refresh of the flagship in name though so let's look at it like that. Some other generation to generation uplifts were very big too (some bigger). The GeForce 6800 comes to mind (though similar to the Core 2 being so good, it's simply because what it replaced was so bad). The GeForce 8800 series comes to mind as well.

None of this is to say it's bad. It was fair at most of these things despite my counterpoints, but in my mind there's a pretty obvious outlier nVidia has put out as its truly "greatest mistake" and it's not even close. I'm talking about the GeForce 8800 GT of course. It offered something like 95%+ performance of the flagship 8800 GTX a year later, at a third (or a bit more) of the price. Furthermore, this lowered price was accessible to the majority of the market. nVidia practically obsoleted the entire market (including the rest of its own product stack) with that single product. It was often heralded as "the only graphics card that matters" in reviews, and it just about was. There was almost never a reason to buy anything else. The GTX 1080 Ti is a far cry from any such claims.

And yes, the 8800 GT didn't have the same longevity in year count, but again, generations went from one year to two. Resolution was also growing back then as we went from CRTs to 5:4 LCD to widescreen (which was 1200p or even 1600p at the upper end) in such a short time, which no doubt accelerated how fast GPUs of that time aged. If GPUs actually got fast enough to make 4K native playable, then you'd be looking at something closer to similar surrounding market states, and the GTX 1080 Ti would have faltered in such a case long ago. But instead it gets the benefit of recency bias because of a faltering market state where instead we're developing upscaling techniques. Instead, we're being given massively cut down chips and being told 1080p is all we need because it's what most of us currently use (sounds a lot like Intel's "four cores is good enough" all over again, huh?). If ever we needed another "greatest of all time", another 8800 GT, now is the time. Another GTX 1080 Ti right now would just be an RTX 4090 Ti, something costing 20% more but being 25% faster. Or, or... imagine something 5% slower but only 33% as expensive. I know which one I'd rather have, and it's not even a question. Now imagine that latter scenario actually happening, and then being considered aged a few generations later on top of that! That is how good the GPU market used to be. Put the GTX 1080 Ti in that market, and well... it's probably just another GPU.
 
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Longevity? How is longevity defined?

I don't think simply looking at "can it at least play 1080p at high" as a fair measure since if you were only after that in 2016/2017
In 2016 I was purchasing gifts for myself after 3 long years of transportation hell and battling everything my family did to get in the way of everything, so I remember the end of it quite well. Lots of fun new toys, political screeching, junkyard treasures, it was great.

Two of the big changes that I had that year went like this:
Finally having a mobile PC: An x7-8700 powered Surface 3 slate
Finally having a proper successor to my Gateway VX720, which was nothing short of a backup after my Gateway VX1120 failed. I picked a Nixeus VUE-24, first widescreen, first 1080p display. Also the first flat panel and a type of display that intentionally goes way above the usual 60Hz refresh. It's a 144Hz panel. That was a thing in late 2016. So when I see settings argued like 1080p high, I have no idea what that means. When I see anything else at 1080p, I also don't understand what that means. Worse, this was the era that got me curious about VR. From that point not a day went by without people screeching about frame drops and crashes, at least the ones on the 1060 or 1050Ti (which was the floor for VR entry). It's obvious the 1070 and 1080 users were in a much better seat as I didn't get complaints from them until there were more than 40 people in a room and even then, I'm sure it was network before GPU. These were some true 1080p cards but due to the $$$ prices of G-Sync monitors and their power/sleep driver issues, The vanilla 1080 seemed like a better product just because it gave a more bearable experience for the right now and stayed powerful well into the future. The 10 series may be getting killed off in driver support but that doesn't mean their roles are over. Even my RX 580 and its 570/590 counterparts were too little too late and I still use them. Come to think of it, there are a lot of weird questions appearing on these forums about some garbage SKU called the 580 2048SP with a lot of mystery memory. I don't know if I would ever use those but you get the idea.

I'm sure there have been plenty of users glued strictly to desktop and 60Hz since I got out of high school, since that's around the time that widescreen started to take off in popularity but I can't gauge the expected performance floor for desktop games because I went from a 60Hz 1600x1200 display straight to 1920x1080 with a 120/144Hz toggle. A change like that drastically changes the way we see and work with computers. It's a pretty serious difference. Are the 1080p med/high/ultra gaps just as serious?
 
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The 1080 Ti is one of my favourite GPUs of all time but the jump from the 7800 GTX to the 8800 GTX was way more crazy than anything else.
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Problem for the 8800GTX it was hugely shown up by the 8800GT, to me the 8800GTX was a poorer product. Only slightly more performance than a 8800GT for much more power and purchase price. 8800GT was the champion.
 
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Problem for the 8800GTX it was hugely shown up by the 8800GT, to me the 8800GTX was a poorer product. Only slightly more performance than a 8800GT for much more power and purchase price. 8800GT was the champion.
...and 9800GT and GTS250. That GPU and respins stayed with us for a looong time.
8800GT also came at $250 on a performance same or close to as $500+ 8800GTX and $400 HD2900.
 
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The GTX 480 can still run games well up to around 2017.
The 8800 GTX was still performant up until around 2013.
The 7970 was performant until around 2020.

It's just noobs gloating over their first high end card again.

I choose the GTX 480 as it was my first high end too.
 
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Problem for the 8800GTX it was hugely shown up by the 8800GT, to me the 8800GTX was a poorer product. Only slightly more performance than a 8800GT for much more power and purchase price. 8800GT was the champion.
That was true after the 8800 GT launched, yes. But the 8800 GTX existed for a year before then, and it was a huge jump over the previous generation in both performance and technical aspects. It also remained a bit faster than the 8800 GT (if marginally), namely at higher resolutions, and had 50% more VRAM. I'd say the 8800 GTX still earns a spot in the conversation as possibly one of the best (I'd certainly say it does more so than the GTX 1080 Ti at least). It's just that the 8800 GT was, all things considered, so much better than anything else nVidia ever released so nothing else is even close. It's really unfathomable how unrealistic the 8800 GT was... yet it actually happened despite it.

Imagine a hypothetical RTX 4090 LE that has ~95% of the performance of the standard RTX 4090 at 1440p and below, and ~90% at 4K, and perhaps 18 GB VRAM instead of 24 GB, uses less power, and ultimately costs ~$550. The market would lose its collective sanity. That sounds unbelievable today. Yet that's the equivalent of what the 8800 GT was in late 2007. If something like that is not the greatest of all time, I don't know what is. The GTX 1080 Ti accomplishment, by comparison, was "accessible to a smaller portion of the buying market, has a higher asking price but a bit more performance that slightly exceeds that price difference, and it is still serviceable years later but at a resolution below what it was capable of at launch due to a stagnating market in recent years". And for doing that, it's called that the greatest of all time? Expectations have slipped. None of this is to say the GTX 1080 Ti was bad. To the contrary, it was great, and Pascal as a whole was. But the greatest of all time? I don't know. There's just too many obvious better contenders in my mind.
 
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Yep, I dont disagree, without the GT, the 8800GTX would have a better place in history. But of course that wasnt the case, so the thing that the 8800GTX had over the 8800GT was the extra VRAM and that it was available earlier. But glad we agree that the 8800GT is just ridiculous.

Also yep I would be buying that 4090 LE you described lol.
 
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Imagine a hypothetical RTX 4090 LE that has ~95% of the performance of the standard RTX 4090 at 1440p and below, and ~90% at 4K, and perhaps 18 GB VRAM instead of 24 GB, uses less power, and ultimately costs ~$550. The market would lose its collective sanity.
O god the miners just had a Myocardial Infarction.
 
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