is this for nvidia or does it work with amd cards?

[inquisitor1]

This thread is sure going south in a hurry.

look how you welcome new members who arent in the know how. 2nd post was some clown who said "we got a live one here"

You didn't say anything about me, but the internet in general, which also includes me:

If you meant companies, and not the community at TPU, for example ("the internet"), I'd recommend you choose your words more carefully. Acting out of emotion, whether it be during driver installs, or posing on an online forum, will do no good to you.

I still don't understand what "extras" you want to exclude from your driver installs, by the way.

I dont know the extras company install. installing programs to many are a mystery. its a next>next>next process and youre unaware where the files were all spread out. so I dont trust the button for things to be "off" isnt after installed since its a placebo button. no one knows. im not a programmer to know but I prefer to not trust the companies word then to trust it.

and there must be a reason why so many use these installers. because they too dont trust the comnpanies and what theyll really install

 

[tabascosauz]

I dont know the extras company install. installing programs to many are a mystery. its a next>next>next process and youre unaware where the files were all spread out. so I dont trust they button for things to be off isnt after installed since its a placebo button.

Much of the behind-the-scenes processes aren't exactly open to you to disable though......ie. Nvidia Container which I think you can disable in NVCleanstall but will break functionality. That's why they are clearly marked as experimental options in NVCleanstall. There are some on AMD as well that can disabled safely (ie. Crash Reporter).

I don't know what placebo you're referring to in the AMD installer; it doesn't get any clearer than Full, Minimal and Driver-Only, with a helpful tooltip explaining each.

 

[Toothless]

More features = bigger driver sizes. If you want a small driver then use something from 2004. The whole "I don't trust companies" thing is old when whatever you're using to be here is from a company.

This is a forum, not a anti-company fiasco.

 

[AleXXX666]

AMD lets you select how much "stuff" you want installed, just like Nvidia. You have options for full, minimal, or driver only installation.

Edit: On Nvidia, you have options for with or without GeForce Experience.

though, before installing, I always remove folder "NVTelemetry" from unpacked Nvidia driver installer, and only then start installation.

 

[Chrispy_]

Wow, this thread's quite abrasive for what's a reasonable question from someone seeking information.

The "NV" in NVCleanInstall isn't explicitly stated as Nvidia. It could mean "New Video" or something. Yes, it does stand for Nvidia in this case, but Nvidia themselves don't use NV as an acronym, and the only time you publicly see Nvidia as an acronym is in share/stock listing where the official acroymn is NVDA. You need to be experienced in messing around with the contents of the drivers to know that NVxxxxxx is the name of background processes Nvidia uses within their drivers. That's definitely not presented front-and-centre to users and anyone unfamiliar with driver components and services would have no reason to discover that for themselves.

This tool exists because Nvidia doesn't provide a driver-only install like AMD or Intel do.

Why would you want a driver-only install? Because there are third-party control panels for graphics cards. They're not very popular, and most of them are likely deprecated or outdated now - but that was the original reason for this tool's creation.

 

[AlienIsGOD]

you assume too much. thanks for wishing me luck. you keep being a conformist and a follower. the fanboyism is intense here.

not as intense as your fear of everything tech related, but you do you and keep typing and looking the fool. Its 2023 invest in more HDD space or suffer with your insecurities over software

 

[inquisitor1]

not as intense as your fear of everything tech related, but you do you and keep typing and looking the fool. Its 2023 invest in more HDD space or suffer with your insecurities over software

being "fearful" will protect you. im not fearful of tech related, again, another mistake you make. I dont trust the vast majority of companies. their greed and shady tactics is the highest level weve seen till now. this is fact. they try to screw the users and the users by and keep coming back for me. and look at games and gpu. they up prices and idiots line up to buy. what suckers.


you go and be blind to readily believe everything sold to you. id rather ask questions and reasearch of intentions of companies I give money to and be untrusting of companies then to be blind naive and gullible. also, many times Ill prefer to buy used. that way the mfr never gets my money.many times I buy with warranty so I get a lower price, dont support the company and have warranty. and this is not only for computer gear. its for everything. I dont follow or conform like the sheep masses.

yes, ill do as you suggest, "you do you"

 

[R-T-B]

look how you welcome new members who arent in the know how. 2nd post was some clown who said "we got a live one here"

I wasn't part of that. Though I'm not saying you haven't been a part of the argument here, I'm genuinely sorry for the reception you received. We should strive to be more welcoming.

 

[inquisitor1]

If you want a granular driver package where you can be picky about what gets installed, AmernimeZ community driver packages are probably what you want. The setup process allows for more direct control of what does and doesn't get installed. Though you may find that a lot of features stop working when you strip out all the code they rely on. Modern GPUs are complex ASICs with thousands of individual functions, not just "play game on screen".

I only dont waant the telemetry and fluff that really isnt needed. like nvidia physx and sli nonsense. I think they purposely do this to force people to install more then needed.

I dont know how many "features" and such drivers install. I installed amd driver, first time ever and it had some option to disable telemetry or something else. it was 4 months ago and being first time I cant remember. but if I knew the exact components of whats to be installed I could analyze it. this pc with rx590 isnt connected to the internet or used yet. im still on an old 8350fx with gtx 660. the driver size I use is 176mb 307.74. new 472.12 is 608MB!!! no way in hell thats of gaming drivers. thats trash put in. and youll see tons of clueless do the next>next>next install without knowing better and that will take a lot of pc resources. and weve seen what scumbags nvidia and amd are . when you see companies like evga leave the market, this a clear picture of what has happened im not installing 608mb of nonsense.

when people make software like nvclean, there is a reason why. and its not a positive one for nvidia (or amd).

so im looking at the amernimez drivers. im curious why its smaller then amd drivers. not suspicious, just curious.

 

[AnotherReader]

I only dont waant the telemetry and fluff that really isnt needed. like nvidia physx and sli nonsense. I think they purposely do this to force people to install more then needed.

I dont know how many "features" and such drivers install. I installed amd driver, first time ever and it had some option to disable telemetry or something else. it was 4 months ago and being first time I cant remember. but if I knew the exact components of whats to be installed I could analyze it. this pc with rx590 isnt connected to the internet or used yet. im still on an old 8350fx with gtx 660. the driver size I use is 176mb 307.74. new 472.12 is 608MB!!! no way in hell thats of gaming drivers. thats trash put in. and youll see tons of clueless do the next>next>next install without knowing better and that will take a lot of pc resources. and weve seen what scumbags nvidia and amd are . when you see companies like evga leave the market, this a clear picture of what has happened im not installing 608mb of nonsense.

when people make software like nvclean, there is a reason why. and its not a positive one for nvidia (or amd).

AMD's driver installation ends with a screen asking you if you want to opt in to usage collection. If you're still concerned about what's in the driver, then just migrate to Linux where AMD has an open source driver in addition to the closed source driver. Intel's Linux driver is open source as well.

 

[inquisitor1]

If you're still concerned about what's in the driver, then just migrate to Linux where AMD has an open source driver in addition to the closed source driver. Intel's Linux driver is open source as well.

yes, I wish I could get into linux. you need to know some programming. I started with win3.11 years back and its all pretty much just click glide through all windows and linux needs some programming, and I have more of a creative head then a binary one. my brother a prject manager in hitech firm but im the creative one in the family.

I wish linux would push more for gaming and editing and editing programs. such a shame. id move in a millisecond.

 

[Super Firm Tofu]

AMD's driver installation ends with a screen asking you if you want to opt in to usage collection. If you're still concerned about what's in the driver, then just migrate to Linux where AMD has an open source driver in addition to the closed source driver. Intel's Linux driver is open source as well.

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Maybe that changed recently, but for me I've always had to uncheck that box every driver install.

 

[inquisitor1]

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I wasn't part of that. Though I'm not saying you haven't been a part of the argument here, I'm genuinely sorry for the reception you received. We should strive to be more welcoming.

no, you werent part of it. maybe I need time to settle in or for others to accept my douchebagnes. I can laugh at myself but I do stick hard to my basic value of not trusting companies and being a pro privacy advocate. even if I can do 1% for myself, its what I want to do. like those who fight for animal rights, workers rights, environment etc. they know its a hard battle but if they can do something small, it makes them feel good.

 

[AnotherReader]

Maybe that changed recently, but for me I've always had to uncheck that box every driver install.

In the latest installer, they changed it to a radio button and I don't recall which was the default.

 

[R-T-B]

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no, you werent part of it. maybe I need time to settle in or for others to accept my douchebagnes. I can laugh at myself but I do stick hard to my basic value of not trusting companies and being a pro privacy advocate. even if I can do 1% for myself, its what I want to do. like those who fight for animal rights, workers rights, environment etc. they know its a hard battle but if they can do something small, it makes them feel good.

I'm a big time privacy advocate so I get where you are coming from. It's a tough fight where we seemingly lose more ground than we gain, but a direly important one, yeah.

 

[AlienIsGOD]

I wasn't part of that. Though I'm not saying you haven't been a part of the argument here, I'm genuinely sorry for the reception you received. We should strive to be more welcoming.

i mean his abrasive attitude towards any opposing viewpoint and basically telling everyone else they are blind sheep that are dumb asf....maybe next time he can learn to be nicer lol

i dont play well with rude ppl lol and never will, y'all know that about me here

 

[R-T-B]

maybe next time he can learn to be nicer lol

I mean yeah, but we set a pretty mean table. When all you have to eat is rotten tomatoes, don't be surprised when a foodfight breaks out.

 

[AusWolf]

I dont know the extras company install. installing programs to many are a mystery. its a next>next>next process and youre unaware where the files were all spread out. so I dont trust the button for things to be "off" isnt after installed since its a placebo button. no one knows. im not a programmer to know but I prefer to not trust the companies word then to trust it.

and there must be a reason why so many use these installers. because they too dont trust the comnpanies and what theyll really install

I'm not a programmer, either, so I don't bother with this stuff. Tools exist for all kinds of things because people are different, we want different things. There's no reason to see any anti-corporation movement behind it. There's also a reason why so many people are happy with the factory drivers. Not breaking basic functionality is the main one. As said before, AMD lets you choose full, compact, and driver-only install with or without data collection. I don't know what else you can ask for, or what "extras" companies slip in that you're afraid of. But with that logic, you can very well be afraid of your whole PC, as you don't know exactly how your CPU or graphics card works, and what's inside every single component. Not trusting companies is healthy up to a point, but it can also send you down a very, very deep rabbit hole.

 

[R-T-B]

Not trusting companies is healthy up to a point, but it can also send you down a very, very deep rabbit hole.

This, pretty much. Viewing company claims with skepticism is healthy, but at some point, you still have to use their product at the end of the day. Try not to lose your mind in the well-intentioned fight.