Latency equivalent to 3200mhz cl16, not bad. When they get to 3600mhz cl 14, how are they going to call it? Super Mega Extreme low latency?

GungarLatency equivalent to 3200mhz cl16, not bad. When they get to 3600mhz cl 14, how are they going to call it? Super Mega Extreme low latency?

Did you expect DDR5 to speedrun all its potential within 6 months of arriving to market?

Hummmm...... usually "extreme anything" = extreme price also.....

Would have been nice for them to include this rather crucial info in their P.R. :D

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their current z5 kits can already do ddr5 6200 cl 32-36-36 -- pretty sure they can hit these timings easily as well. The current 32Gb kit can be found for $350-$370.

I think these will be pretty affordable.

phanbueytheir current z5 kits can already do ddr5 6200 cl 32-36-36 -- pretty sure they can hit these timings easily as well. The current 32Gb kit can be found for $350-$370.

I think these will be pretty affordable.

Eh, not really. Pretty affordable is what the average folk buys. Low latency $300 kits are not exactly pretty affordable. People run DDR4 with alder lake even though DDR5 gets the better part of the pie.

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Low end kit but wonder how much dimm voltage does it take to push the cl down, on this kit to cl24 or lower.
Lower latency always takes more voltage.

Cool to see this in 2x32GB configuration personally. The 2x16GB market has plenty of options in DDR5 right now, 2x32GB not so much.

Still, would like to see these timings around DDR5-6000 / whatever the hell AMD is doing with its memory spec that its touting before taking the plunge.

dj-electricDid you expect DDR5 to speedrun all its potential within 6 months of arriving to market?

They called it "extreme low-latency" not me :)

X71200Eh, not really. Pretty affordable is what the average folk buys. Low latency $300 kits are not exactly pretty affordable. People run DDR4 with alder lake even though DDR5 gets the better part of the pie.

Right. 2x16GB of DDR4-3600 CL16 costs around $160 in the US. That's my bar for "pretty affordable." I expect a new generation of memory to cost more out of the gate, but they still have a long way to go. Luckily, I'm in no rush to upgrade platforms.

kongaRight. 2x16GB of DDR4-3600 CL16 costs around $160 in the US. That's my bar for "pretty affordable." I expect a new generation of memory to cost more out of the gate, but they still have a long way to go. Luckily, I'm in no rush to upgrade platforms.

In context of DDR5 it's pretty affordable.

DDR5 speeds shaping up nicely.
Perhaps DDR5 will be in a good enough place to definitely, always, be better than DDR4 by the time Zen4 launches.

looking good, 64GB dimms next?

DRAM vendors will price fix again, will be found guilty again, and will make a ton of money even after paying fines again. DDR5 won't be a decent upgrade price/performance wise until 2025 when all the DRAM manufacturers have their new fabs up and producing optimal yields. In simpler terms, competition within the fast DDR5 supply chain, and ~3 years is a long time to wait for that competition. Until then all this overpriced DDR5 only looks good in meaningless synthetic benchmarks. This means AMD has a serious midrange market problem on their hands if they don't have a DDR4 version of Zen4 hidden away somewhere, The entire Ryzen 7000 generation will be limited to high end buyers only, while simultaneously the midrange price/performance buyers won't even consider spending twice as much or more on DDR5 memory. Midrange buyers price/performance buyers would be better off on a comparable 13th gen Intel while saving hundreds by using fast affordable and available DDR4 instead. Even AMD's Zen3 3D Vcache chips won't compete with 13th gen DDR4 platform either since they are so expensive. No DDR4 on Zen4 is AMD's worst midrange roadmap decision since Bulldozer. How hard would it be to swap out the DDR5 IO die on Zen4 with a DDR4 one?

Pretty much all DDR5 Hynix M-Die can do this if you manually set the timings and voltage.

ir_cowPretty much all DDR5 Hynix M-Die can do this if you manually set the timings and voltage.

Not to mention those timings at 5600 are not great in terms of latency.

In another year, DDR5 might be finally an affordable, more performant alternative to good DDR4.

Chrispy_DDR5 speeds shaping up nicely.
Perhaps DDR5 will be in a good enough place to definitely, always, be better than DDR4 by the time Zen4 launches.

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Only good thing is 32gb sticks
Otherwise I guess it could be a higher cl but 5600 is a low ball for ddr5 speed.