Friday, December 5th 2008

Phenom II at 6+ GHz: How AMD May Have Done It

A couple of weeks ago, at the AMD Austin Tech Day event, the company stunned the computer enthusiast community, by presenting to the press, the overclocking capabilities of the upcoming Phenom II X4 processor. The enginners managed to boot the machine at CPU speeds in excess of 6 GHz, 6.213 GHz to be precise. A close-up snap of a portion of the CPU-Z window showing the overclock, made its way to AMD's own photostream at Flickr, among other pictures related to the event.

The picture reveals the clock speed at 6213.6 MHz, bus speed at 200 MHz, FSB multiplier at an unreal 31.0x and resulting HyperTransport link speed at 1002.2 MHz. This would mean that they may have dropped down the HT link multiplier (normally 200 x 10.0 for the Phenom II X4 940) to 5x. We already know from previous reports that the vCore was set around 1.90 Volts, and that a copper pot with liquid nitrogen was used to cool the chip. The motherboard used, from the pictures, appears to be Gigabyte GA-MA790GP-DS4H, which is based on the AMD 790GX + SB750 chipset. For more pictures, browse through the photostream. More pictures could be added to the stream once the NDA lifts on December 14.
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88 Comments on Phenom II at 6+ GHz: How AMD May Have Done It

#51
Bluesman
Phenom Prices and Availability

Now that some of you may be interested in Phenom II and clocks of 4-6.5 Ghz here is a SOURCE for release information. (Special thanks to informal at XS for the source.) And NO I am not an AMD employee or distributor, just a lousy overclocker looking to have fun with a new cpu!
DISTRIBUTORS IN EUROPE and North America will begin shipping both OEM and retail boxes of the Phenom II 920 and Phenom II 940 starting December 18th (Europe), according to one distributor, and December 20th (North America).

The Phenom II X4 920 SKU will sell at about $235 to retailers, while the overclocking whiz-kid, the Phenom II X4 940 will ship at $275. At least one distributor says December 20th is the ETA for the shipment.
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#52
PCpraiser100
BluesmanNow that some of you may be interested in Phenom II and clocks of 4-6.5 Ghz here is a SOURCE for release information. (Special thanks to informal at XS for the source.) And NO I am not an AMD employee or distributor, just a lousy overclocker looking to have fun with a new cpu!
Great read Bluesman, now I'm very confident that AMD won't kill us with a steep price as well as no shipping schedule.
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#53
Polarman
That's pretty impressive. I would never attemp something this crazy. :eek:
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#54
kysg
AMD is on the warpath!!!! JK scratch that last one. Sweet, this proc with turn some heads when it gets released. AMD might be able to get back in stride.
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#55
szulmizan
Hopefully this cpu sell at reasonable price.. like intel Ci7 but hate their price..
I will never OC with LN2. Just ordinary OC guy.. :p
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#56
Chicken Patty
szulmizanHopefully this cpu sell at reasonable price.. like intel Ci7 but hate their price..
I will never OC with LN2. Just ordinary OC guy.. :p
Phenom II 940 is supposed to be $275 in the states. Was it here that I saw that? maybe on the inquirer...
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#58
Sonido
Live OR Dieim going to wait and see pictures are just pictures, could be running at 6ghz but could be slower than a i7 at 5Ghz lol
I heard they added a whole bunch of instruction sets to their lists. Deneb will have more IOPS than the previous Phenoms, but, a good amount are NOT going to be in Deneb. They are trying to save it for their next release.
Chicken Patty^^^yup, here you go

www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/12/05/phenom-ii-fore-christmas
Intel is going to take the 'machete of price cutting' to their CPUs.

They keep it in the closet next to the rat poison.
Binge45nm process is 45nm process. I hate feeling like this is an argument because there is proof that no matter what type of electronics you are dealing with the 45nm process will degrade at accelerated (dare I say exponential) rates over 1.4v.

These semi-conductors get smaller and smaller they use less power (and that is good)... there is a point where the voltage can literally change the structure of a gate, breaking it. What I'm trying to say is that a door for people to pass through will hold it's form for just so long with so much use but on Black Friday when the energy of the crowd outside of Walmart got too intense the front doors of the Walmart were forced from their hinges, a greeter was trampled to death, and a pregnant woman severely injured. People still bought goods... Walmart still operated but at what cost?
100% true. The whole reason for the shrink is to increase performance, while reducing the need for energy.

Smaller space--less time needed for the travel; but the more you put in that small space, the more crowded it gets.
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#59
Chicken Patty
SonidoI heard they added a whole bunch of instruction sets to their lists. Deneb will have more IOPS than the previous Phenoms, but, a good amount are NOT going to be in Deneb. They are trying to save it for their next release.



Intel is going to take the 'machete of price cutting' to their CPUs.

They keep it in the closet next to the rat poison.



100% true. The whole reason for the shrink is to increase performance, while reducing the need for energy.

Smaller space--less time needed for the travel; but the more you put in that small space, the more crowded it gets.
"machete of price cutting" hahahahahah. That was funny. Where you from dude?
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#60
<<Onafets>>
that's amazing :respect::eek::respect:
i wish my dad would let me do this kind o stuff, sounds like they've outdone theirselves once again
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#61
Sonido
coolerApparently that chip manage to run crysis couple of time, and it not cherry picked





www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10801&Itemid=1
If it's not cherry picked, I think I just wet my pants.

That's an impressive feat for a civilian project.
Chicken Patty"machete of price cutting" hahahahahah. That was funny. Where you from dude?
New York. I just can't wait for these bad boys to go head to head.
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#62
Chicken Patty
SonidoNew York. I just can't wait for these bad boys to go head to head.
cool, hard to see someone use the word "machete" in here.
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#63
PaulieG
I'll be going Phenom II after DDR3 boards are released in Feb. I really hope AMD delivers this time.
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#64
Sonido
Chicken Pattycool, hard to see someone use the word "machete" in here.
:D Why you say that?
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#65
HTC
Dunno if this has been posted before:

Look @ this.

Original source.
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#67
HTC
ShadowFoldWow nice find :rockout:
Thank you!
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#68
Sonido
HTCLook @ this.

Original source.
45 nm ftw!

Damn ... I can't wait. Good find man!
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#69
OzzmanFloyd120
I find it hard to believe that the stock 9950 cooler keeps it at less than 30C idle.
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#70
HTC
Sonido45 nm ftw!

Damn ... I can't wait.
I really hope that even if these can't compete with i7, they come close enough, whether in performance or price or both, so that Intel lowers their prices and we all benefit from it.
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#71
Binge
Overclocking Surrealism
HTCI really hope that even if these can't compete with i7, they come close enough, whether in performance or price or both, so that Intel lowers their prices and we all benefit from it.
Lower prices, lower temps, and all of that means good things for both teams and future tech.
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#72
Chicken Patty
Sonido:D Why you say that?
latin word that is not too familiar for the non latin members.
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#73
Hayder_Master
sorry 6213.6 at 31x , how much multiplier this support , nice gigabyte mobo
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#74
HTC
hayder.mastersorry 6213.6 at 31x , how much multiplier this support , nice gigabyte mobo
Apparently, up to 48x.
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#75
Bluesman
More Phenom II Info

Here is a quote from an attendee at the San Francisco event Friday. SOURCE
Attended the invite only AMD event last night in SF..........

Looks like AMD will be making a big leap with this CPU......just awesome....

6.2gig LN2 WPrime 32bit run, 6.33 seconds, off the shelf CPU

5.8+ gig Crysis time demo bench passed

Both done with 1.9v to CPU....

4.4 gig on a Prometia (could be bringing mine out of retirement)

4 gig on air, even with the stock cooler (wow!), uh, get this, clocked to 4 gig it was idling @13/14*c on all cores with a coolermaster heatpipe, dual fanned monster.........

no water setup was spotted...

lots of giveaways, 6 to 8 Phenoms, to be delivered early next year, several ATI 4800's, and4 Killer Brand network gaming NIC's (I snagged one), so did my bud....

Free food, hosted bar, several attendees were giving the free Vodka a good test....

A few of these processors will trickle out late December, mainstream Jan/Feb 2009.....

Side by side DDR2 and DDR3 setups clocked to the same 4 gig, virtually a tie for performance, so save some hard earned, DDR2 will perform rather nicely.....
:rockout:
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