Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 X2 2048 MB

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

i7 hardware is coming. but i'm not sure if it will make much of a difference for the vga reviews. if i remember correctly i actually saw some i7 reviews that said games performance will go down. remember, most games use one (1) core

The vga reviews might not see the drastic improvement people are hoping for right now, but more and more games are being developed multicore friendly and I imagine that your test suite will include some of them in the future. I also think a having a nice x58 board will open up the possibilities for some more CrossfireX and SLi reviews.

 

[W1zzard]

will open up the possibilities for some more CrossfireX and SLi reviews.

thats the main reason. are there any articles yet about performance and stability? wouldnt be worth it if people complain "uh teh x58 limits your pcie bandwidth"

 

[Steevo]

Some of you need to look at the hardware specs that steam provides, it clearly shows the most common hardware and display resolutions.

http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html


Above 1920X1200 accounts for a whopping 1.4%.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

thats the main reason. are there any articles yet about performance and stability? wouldnt be worth it if people complain "uh teh x58 limits your pcie bandwidth"

I saw one review with 3 GTX280s running FC2 over 100fps on every resolution where the C2D based system was pulling a max of 52fps across the board. so performance wise I believe it has the right bandwidth for today's uber GPUs.. as for stability... idk I'm sure there are many BIOS updates in the x58 and i7 future.

People will always complain when they dont get/see what the want. Its tough for people to swallow the fact that a 4870x2 is unnecessary for certain systems. Eventually everyone will hate your work for not using SSDs. :shadedshu the other 99% of us thank you for your efforts.

 

[W1zzard]

Some of you need to look at the hardware specs that steam provides, it clearly shows the most common hardware and display resolutions.

http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html


Above 1920X1200 accounts for a whopping 1.4%.

the people who play steam games most often do not have the latest and greatest hardware. while the steam survey is a useful piece of data you have to consider its limitations. gpu-z has a stats page over all the submitted results here, again, consider who uses gpu-z and who doesn't

 

[W1zzard]

I saw one review with 3 GTX280s running FC2 over 100fps on every resolution where the C2D based system was pulling a max of 52fps across the board.

i can't imagine that any cpu/chipset/mobo alone can increase performance by almost 100% while staying with the same graphics cards. fc2 should be largely gpu limited. do you have a link?

 

[jbunch07]

the people who play steam games most often do not have the latest and greatest hardware. while the steam survey is a useful piece of data you have to consider its limitations. gpu-z has a stats page over all the submitted results here, again, consider who uses gpu-z and who doesn't

Just curious what would be an example of an "Illegal vendor ID" ?

 

[mdm-adph]

gpu-z has a stats page over all the submitted results here, again, consider who uses gpu-z and who doesn't

"Ultra" enthusiasts?

 

[W1zzard]

Just curious what would be an example of an "Illegal vendor ID" ?

all 0's if i recall correctly. the pci specification requires every device to have a defined manufacturer id. 10de for nv, 1002 for ati for example. those 0000 devices are probably misreads or other unknown stuff to gpuz

 

[jbunch07]

all 0's if i recall correctly. the pci specification requires every device to have a defined manufacturer id. 10de for nv, 1002 for ati for example. those 0000 devices are probably misreads or other unknown stuff to gpuz

Ahh I see, for a second I was thinking it was for those people that bought their card on the black market.

I would have thought that EVGA would make up more than 3% of the Vendors, ehh oh well I guess not everyone validates their GPUZ.

 

[Steevo]

Bow chika bow wow. We have the ultra uber of the gamers, and more than likely the overclockers here outnumber the true gamers.



Remember that alot of those games are available on steam. Many people just don't care to upgrade their systems unless they "need" to. I have played TF2 and CS:S with peeps who run PCI cards and don't give a damn about pretties, and more times than not they kicked my ass.



You need some lightning on your av.

 

[W1zzard]

"Ultra" enthusiasts?

not ultra, more like the above average gamer. most of our gpus in the database are g92 which is still a pretty powerful card considering the whole market. if we had a realistic image of the market you would see intel igp lead with like 40%

 

[mdm-adph]

not ultra, more like the above average gamer. most of our gpus in the database are g92 which is still a pretty powerful card considering the whole market. if we had a realistic image of the market you would see intel igp lead with like 40%

So, are the Valve statistics pretty much "regular" gamer? I noticed there wasn't really much IGP on their GPU list, either.

Frankly, I'm amazed at the amount of people still running Geforce 6600's -- those were damn good cards.

 

[Steevo]

Alot of the Intel IGP's are made by Nvidia or by ATI. A couple years ago Nvidia had to outsource to ATI the manufacturing of some on their contract as Nvidia was too busy producing the 7XXX series to keepup with market demands.


W1zz, are you saying that the average POSTER is only above average in gaming hardware, or the average software user is?

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

i can't imagine that any cpu/chipset/mobo alone can increase performance by almost 100% while staying with the same graphics cards. fc2 should be largely gpu limited. do you have a link?

Took me a while to find it but here it is. I think this is because the Dunia engine is largely multi-threaded.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i7-multigpu-sli-crossfire-game-performance-review/11

I found this too. not as extreme but it shows some of the same tendencies. Ignore the 4870 scores since ATI obviously needs to work some kinks out of their drivers.

 

[PCpraiser100]

it beats the 4870x2 on higher resolutions, thats a bit stupid

Well, the card has a far better cooling solution that the standard HD 4870X2, enabling higher stock clocks.