My Phenom II vs. QX9650 results at 3810mhz

sno.lcn · Jan 31, 2009

I tried to get settings on each system as close as possible for a fair comparison. I've had this done for a week or two now, but due to RL haven't been able to get it posted until now.

Deneb System:
Phenom II 940 @ 254*15
Gigabyte MA790GP-DS4H
2x1gb Team Xtreem PC8000 @ 501mhz, 4-4-4-10 2T
Gigabyte HD 4850 @ 750/1100mhz, 8.12 driver
Gigabyte ODIN Pro 1200w
WD Raptor 36gb
Windows Vista Ultimate

Yorkfield System:
QX9650 @ 401*9.5
Gigabyte EP45-UD3P
2x1gb Team Xtreem PC8000 @ 501mhz, 4-4-4-10 2T
Gigabyte HD 4850 @ 750/1100mhz, 8.12 driver
Gigabyte ODIN Pro 1200w
WD Raptor 36gb
Windows Vista Ultimate

*For PCMark 05, an ACARD ANS-9010 and a GTX 280 @ 770/1230 were subbed. That's why the scores are so high. That test could have gone either way though, as finicky as the benchmark is with no tweaking added.

I've been working on a 4ghz shootout, and have the QX9650 part finished and half of the Deneb part, but my single stage decided to crap out so I need to fix it first.

I would like to thank Gigabyte for both motherboards, the VGA, and the PSU.

LifeOnMars · Jan 31, 2009

Just the sort of thing i've been looking for. Now could you really be the MAN and post game performance with minimum average and max fps. I really want to justify my purchase of a phenom II 940 :0 Pretty please

exodusprime1337 · Jan 31, 2009

how did you get the aq3 score over 200k?? i only get 180k at 3.817 or 225x17? is there a way to set up aq to make it run better, i've selected all 4 cores in affinity and turned off everything?

Charper2013 · Jan 31, 2009

Wow looks like Phenom II is the way to go.. Are you using the Extreme Edition?

sno.lcn · Jan 31, 2009

exodusprime1337 said:
how did you get the aq3 score over 200k?? i only get 180k at 3.817 or 225x17? is there a way to set up aq to make it run better, i've selected all 4 cores in affinity and turned off everything?

What RAM clocks are you running? AM3 likes RAM and CPU speed lots.

Charper2013 said:
Wow looks like Phenom II is the way to go.. Are you using the Extreme Edition?

Yes, the unlocked black edition.

exodusprime1337 · Jan 31, 2009

i'm using ddr2 1150 @ 1192 5,5,512,2t

sno.lcn · Jan 31, 2009

Then that's not the problem I guess. Can you go higher on the NB frequency? I'm also seeing very nice gains from increasing fsb as well.

Charper2013 · Jan 31, 2009

sno.lcn said:
Yes, the unlocked black edition.

Wow that means that QX9650 is not even nowhere near worth the extra 800$ more than the Phenom II.

exodusprime1337 · Jan 31, 2009

i'm thinking i'll try raising the fsb to where you got it and dropping the ram down a bit, i can't post at 1300Mhz mem so that's out of the question, but the 254 should be doable. and my nb is at 2800 or so right now. my mem bandwidth is insane from stock. huge increase in speeds and very low latency, like 34 or so.

sno.lcn · Jan 31, 2009

If you can tighten it up a little at a lower speed it may help. 1000mhz 4-4-4-10-12 is what I'm running, and can take it up to around 1140 at those timing.

philbrown23 · Jan 31, 2009

Thanks for this m8 now I know for sure AM3/ Phenom 2 is out of the question for my new build

wiak · Feb 1, 2009

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 = $340
Phenom II 940 Black Edition = $230
thats a freaking $110 diffrent...

exodusprime1337 · Feb 1, 2009

no wiak, he was specifiing the price between a p2 940-~220-250 us right now, vs an intel qx9650 which is at 1019.99 on the egg right now here's the link intel qx9650

Wartz · Feb 1, 2009

the QX9650 and the Q9650 are the same I think, the QX just has an unlocked multiplier IIRC.

sno.lcn · Feb 1, 2009

Wartz said:
the QX9650 and the Q9650 are the same I think, the QX just has an unlocked multiplier IIRC.

Correct.

flyin15sec · Feb 1, 2009

Great review. Looking forward to more tests.

wolf2009 · Feb 1, 2009

need some real world tests

LittleLizard · Feb 1, 2009

test some games

sno.lcn · Feb 1, 2009

wolf2009 said:
need some real world tests

Anything specific you want to see?

ShadowFold · Feb 1, 2009

sno.lcn said:
Anything specific you want to see?

Games! Crysis, Left 4 Dead, STALKER Clear Sky, World in Conflict etc

dennisjai · Feb 1, 2009

sweet! clock for clock the phenom 2 loses, but it's really not by much, well worth the price.

farlex85 · Feb 1, 2009

sno.lcn said:
Anything specific you want to see?

Could you do some Sandra Soft cpu tests? Perhaps time some big files being compressed, and maybe rip a blu-ray or dvd and time it.

sno.lcn · Feb 1, 2009

ShadowFold said:
Games! Crysis, Left 4 Dead, STALKER Clear Sky, World in Conflict etc

farlex85 said:
Could you do some Sandra Soft cpu tests? Perhaps time some big files being compressed, and maybe rip a blu-ray or dvd and time it.

No problem guys, I'll get started this afternoon :toast:

cdawall · Feb 1, 2009

your scores are really really low

http://img.techpowerup.org/090129/Capture028.jpg

stock GPU clocks

http://img.techpowerup.org/090127/Capture027.jpg

thats just an 8800GTS it shouldn't even look at your card

farlex85 · Feb 1, 2009

cdawall said:
your scores are really really low

thats just an 8800GTS it shouldn't even look at your card

The 4850 is roughly equal to the 8800gts. A bit more powerful but not by much, w/ the oc on the gts they are pretty much equal. Your phenom oc'd further, and your using xp as opposed to vista. Considering all that, both your scores seem about in line w/ each other. Your only about 1k above on each of those (actually only 700 on 3dk6, which could actually easily be made up w/ tweaks).

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Motherboard	Asus Maximus VIII Impact
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My Phenom II vs. QX9650 results at 3810mhz

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