X-Fi Support Syndicate & Owner's Clubhouse

[eidairaman1]

This new Console does have a Equalizer, but i have 1 option with my setup, i noticed the SUB uses a RS232 9pin connector, i was going to buy a 3 foot Serial Cable and switch the speakers around properly.

I've yet to see a CL driver for my X-fi that didn't have the standard panel which I despise using due to the lack of an EQ which is vital to tuning these cards to connected speakers/headphones imo.

So which speaker has the power/volume/headphone jack for you? Left or right?

You're trying to swap the speaker placements for ease of connectivity is what I got out of what you said there, and assuming such, I have yet to see a solution in Creative's software to alleviate your situation...you'll have to arrange the speakers as intended for proper audio output. There might be a hack or reg-edit somewhere that you can do..I dunno because I've yet to need to swap polarity on the primary out channel...as I said before I wanted it for the Center/Sub which is common on many onboard sound devices...yet on X-Fi is also non-existant as an option..but I no longer need it at this point.

Unless Imperial has a solution or "fix" for ya, I'd say you'll have to set up your speakers as they were designed to be setup to get the sound output correct...maybe you could craft an extension cable of sorts to the sub/amp? Maybe contact logitech? If they have one I'm sure it'll be a pain to get or overpriced as I've never heard of one...but it might be possible and worth a shot.

Keep me posted if you find a solution, definately interesting issue you have here!

 

[razvan_day]

i have manage to select 5.1 but now i have another problem . my rear spekers work only when i select x-fi cmss 3d / enable x-fi cmss 3d then select surround and mark stereo expand . this is the only way that i can make my rear spekesr work and they sound like crap is it any other setting to work with the rear speakers? sry for my english

 

[imperialreign]

No no, physically the speaker is on the left but the CL Driver (latest version) which has its own audio ctrl pnl and then i installed the latest CL Console, i did a test in the console and it states the driver that is physically on the left (Control speaker) is the right speaker and same with the speaker on the right is the left speaker< i just want to switch polarity is all because the cable for the sub is not long enough to be placed on the right side, and i cant find that setting in the Audio Control Panel or the CL Console.

If im not mistaken the speaker that is on the left side of me is actually the right side speaker (labled that way i believe)

hmmm . . . sorry about that THX dialogue thing - I guess it's only the Vista drivers and the Titanium drivers that have the upgraded THX console. The older console doesn't allow for polarity changes.

Otherwise, I kinda agree with what Kursah has mentioned - it sounds that you've got the speakers setup for ease of installation . . . do you have another set you can try to verify that the outputs from the card are correct? Perhaps the speakers themself are wired incorrectly . . . rather odd and unusual, though . . .

i have manage to select 5.1 but now i have another problem . my rear spekers work only when i select x-fi cmss 3d / enable x-fi cmss 3d then select surround and mark stereo expand . this is the only way that i can make my rear spekesr work and they sound like crap is it any other setting to work with the rear speakers? sry for my english

Hmmm . . . sounds as if WIN is not set to a 5.1 output. If only your front channels work, without CMSS-3D, more than likely WIN thinks you're setup for 2-channel. All CMSS-3D will do in such a case is upmix the channels from 2 to 5, giving you "surround" output.

Curious - what kind of audio are you trying to play? Game, mp3, DVD? Channel output issues can be caused by the type of audio as well, within Vista.

 

[razvan_day]

i have send you another pm i am playng music through winamp. she subwwofer volume is very low

after a restore deafult the problems are solved . the subwoofer volume is good . what are the best settings for music ?

 

[EastCoasthandle]

Anyone tried these drivers yet?

 

[imperialreign]

i have send you another pm i am playng music through winamp. she subwwofer volume is very low

after a restore deafult the problems are solved . the subwoofer volume is good . what are the best settings for music ?

well - best settings is really up to personal taste. I prefer to use Entertainment mode for listening to music and watching films . . . Audio Creation is really only for doing recording work, and Game Mode is best suited for games, when all of the APU and the cards abilities can be focused on one such task.

As to specific settings, such ass CMSS-3D, EAX, EQ, etc. It's best to adjust for how you prefer things to sound. First, you might want to take the time to adjust your subwoofer gain properly, and then spend the time to adjust your equalizer settings to accomodate your listening environment. Then go over all the other stuff, like the positional audio, subwoofer crossover, etc.

Take a look here for some other good information: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=64921 - the end of the 3rd section has some good tips for adjusting gain and equalizer

Anyone tried these drivers yet?

interesting . . . I thought dan_k had stopped doing X-Fi drivers altogether . . . I also thought he was banned permanently from Creative's forums . . .

. . . I wonder if Creative had change their mind in their best interest? . . .

 

[Black Panther]

Has anyone here been testing Windows 7? Any drivers you found which work?

 

[imperialreign]

Has anyone here been testing Windows 7? Any drivers you found which work?

I haven't gotten around to testing it, yet . . .

although, I do have some more system upgrades in the mail (including another HDD) . . . somewhat thankfully purchased before my trips to the ER . . .

I might do a WIN7 split partition with XP just for testing.

hopefully, Creative will be more on the ball with beta drivers before WIN7's release . . . to the best of my knowledge WIN7 is built off of the Vista OS, so . . . I would assume that Vista drivers might work . . .

 

[Black Panther]

I would assume that Vista drivers might work . . .

Apparently not however because this is what I get when I tried to install (it's asking me to 'upgrade to XP' which is funny in a way! --

Thank you for helping imperial, and take care.

 

[GREASEMONKEY]

Vista drivers will work with 7.Just have to force it to use them under compatability mode.

 

[Black Panther]

Vista drivers will work with 7.Just have to force it to use them under compatability mode.

Thanks that did the trick!

 

[eidairaman1]

Did you read my entire post?

As i was saying, Data is sent from the sound card to the control speaker and is then fed to the Slave speaker (internal Splitting in the main speaker) and then Data is also sent to the sub via a RS232 9Pin Serial Connection, with my setup on this desk, chair is on the left where the drawers are on the right, so the tower is on the right side and the control speaker is on the left of the monitor because the Sub Cable isnt long enough. i was thinking about getting a extension cable for the Sub (keep it as short as possible) and then switching the speakers around so i can have proper polarity.

hmmm . . . sorry about that THX dialogue thing - I guess it's only the Vista drivers and the Titanium drivers that have the upgraded THX console. The older console doesn't allow for polarity changes.

Otherwise, I kinda agree with what Kursah has mentioned - it sounds that you've got the speakers setup for ease of installation . . . do you have another set you can try to verify that the outputs from the card are correct? Perhaps the speakers themself are wired incorrectly . . . rather odd and unusual, though . . .





Hmmm . . . sounds as if WIN is not set to a 5.1 output. If only your front channels work, without CMSS-3D, more than likely WIN thinks you're setup for 2-channel. All CMSS-3D will do in such a case is upmix the channels from 2 to 5, giving you "surround" output.

Curious - what kind of audio are you trying to play? Game, mp3, DVD? Channel output issues can be caused by the type of audio as well, within Vista.

 

[Kursah]

I'm curious if that extension cable works...looking at that connection, it does look like it should.

I have a similar setup to you, but it must be a smaller desk...maybe 45" lengh, then I have the speakers mounted on the wall on each side of my 22" Acer (love the swiveling bases for this), and the sub is at the lower LH corner of the desk...I don't have any cable length issues, but like I said I must have a smaller desk, it is very basic..one small cabinet...but it's gotten the job done for quite a while. I do have to say the sound stage sound better with the speakers raised to about ear level on the wall. It's kinda rigged with thumb-tacks (one for the hanger, two at each lower corner for stability lol)...but the mounts are solid, and the speakers are light enough that it does the trick quite well.

 

[imperialreign]

Creative have released a WIN7 beta driver for the X-Fi Titanium series cards - downloads can be found here: http://support.creative.com/downloads/welcome.aspx?nDriverType=11#type_11


(this is a good sign - beta drivers LONG before the OS official release )

 

[Alex Clarke]

Ok, I've finally got to the bottom of my X-Fi issue!

For those of you that remember, I was able to install my X-Fi and it would work fine until I rebooted my computer.

After lots of trial and error (and hours spent surfing the web) I've found out the cause.

It's all to do with me running Windows XP x64 with 4GB of RAM, with memory hole enabled in my BIOS. Everything did run fine until the firmware update that was included with one of the driver releases.

The following thread explains a little more.

http://forums.creative.com/creative...aster&message.id=64297&query.id=177989#M64297

I've disabled the memory hole setting in my BIOS and everything works fine. However, I now only have 3.25GB of RAM registered with Windows (as oppose to 4GB).

I'm going to contact Creative about this and see if there are any plans to address this issue in a future driver release. According to the above thread, it should be a very easy fix.

Thanks again to everyone on this forum that helped me out.

I hope that the information I've posted is helpful to other.

All the best,

Alex

 

[imperialreign]

Ok, I've finally got to the bottom of my X-Fi issue!

For those of you that remember, I was able to install my X-Fi and it would work fine until I rebooted my computer.

After lots of trial and error (and hours spent surfing the web) I've found out the cause.

It's all to do with me running Windows XP x64 with 4GB of RAM, with memory hole enabled in my BIOS. Everything did run fine until the firmware update that was included with one of the driver releases.

The following thread explains a little more.

http://forums.creative.com/creative...aster&message.id=64297&query.id=177989#M64297

I've disabled the memory hole setting in my BIOS and everything works fine. However, I now only have 3.25GB of RAM registered with Windows (as oppose to 4GB).

I'm going to contact Creative about this and see if there are any plans to address this issue in a future driver release. According to the above thread, it should be a very easy fix.

Thanks again to everyone on this forum that helped me out.

I hope that the information I've posted is helpful to other.

All the best,

Alex

much thanks for that post

I never would've guessed the 4GB issue was a problem with XP64, as the only OS they've had 4GB issues with has been Vista.

either way, I'll keep it in mind should someone else ever have an issue similar to yours.

Glad to hear that you've been able to get everything working, though!

 

[eidairaman1]

BTW Latest CL driver for my card works just like the one from 2006 (good) just wonder how it does in Vista with all that EAX disable BS (Never used EAX other than 2.0 on my SB PCI 512)
64bit shouldnt matter about these drivers, but i guess your situation it does, because 64bit was supposed to break beyond the 3.25GB barrier that 32bit hits (Despite apparently Win 98Se supporting 4GB Physical Ram)


It is possible to get 32bit to read and utilize 4GB ram properly but it takes alot of tweaking to the system code that its just easier to upgrade to the next version that does support more than 3.25Gigs of ram.

Ok, I've finally got to the bottom of my X-Fi issue!

For those of you that remember, I was able to install my X-Fi and it would work fine until I rebooted my computer.

After lots of trial and error (and hours spent surfing the web) I've found out the cause.

It's all to do with me running Windows XP x64 with 4GB of RAM, with memory hole enabled in my BIOS. Everything did run fine until the firmware update that was included with one of the driver releases.

The following thread explains a little more.

http://forums.creative.com/creative...aster&message.id=64297&query.id=177989#M64297

I've disabled the memory hole setting in my BIOS and everything works fine. However, I now only have 3.25GB of RAM registered with Windows (as oppose to 4GB).

I'm going to contact Creative about this and see if there are any plans to address this issue in a future driver release. According to the above thread, it should be a very easy fix.

Thanks again to everyone on this forum that helped me out.

I hope that the information I've posted is helpful to other.

All the best,

Alex

 

[imperialreign]

Creative have released the 2.18.0008 WIN 7 beta driver for the non-titanuium / non-Xtreme Audio cards.

Can be downloaded here: http://support.creative.com/downloads/welcome.aspx?nDriverType=11#type_11

 

[GlouGlou]

Hello,

I would like to know if some of you own a Creative HS-1200 Headset.
I am currently having problem with the microphone: the volume is too low.
In my recording options, i only have "Wave In" which is the mic. But, since it is recognized as a Wave In device, it seems that I can't access the +20db gain option.

I used the installation CD to install drivers.

Anyone having the same problem ?

Thanks in advance.

OS: WinXP64
Drivers version: 5.10.0.3622

 

[imperialreign]

double check the slected recording device in WIN audio control panel. Go to Start>Control Panel>Sounds & Audio Devices . . . click on the 'Audio' tab, under sound recording, click on the 'volume' button, and check that 'line-in' or 'microphone' is selected, and that the volume level is at least 50%.

 

[GlouGlou]

I've done that before posting here
I even tried to use my Headset with Windows 7 x64 beta.

There my mic is recognized as a mic, but no +20db boost checkbox either.

I will try to install the drivers listed above and see if that can help.

Edit: The drivers listed above does not support my Headset. Anyone has solved this problem before ?

 

[imperialreign]

I've done that before posting here
I even tried to use my Headset with Windows 7 x64 beta.

There my mic is recognized as a mic, but no +20db boost checkbox either.

I will try to install the drivers listed above and see if that can help.

Edit: The drivers listed above does not support my Headset. Anyone has solved this problem before ?

sorry I missed this post . . .

how do you have the mic connection from your headset plugged into the card? At the PCI plate, or at through a front panel connection?

 

[imperialreign]

Creative have released a WIN7 only beta driver package for the PCI-Express X-Fi Extreme Audio, and X-Fi Extreme Audio notebook (currently no beta is yet available for the PCI Xtreme Audio) version 1.04.0000: http://support.creative.com/downloads/?h=7

This download is a beta driver providing Microsoft® Windows® 7 Beta support for Creative Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ Xtreme Audio series of audio devices. For more details, read the rest of this web release note.


Take note of the following:

•THIS IS AN UNSUPPORTED BETA DRIVER. There is no technical support for this driver.
•We recommend that only experienced users install this driver. Do not install this driver on a system used to perform critical tasks.
•Users who are looking for stable drivers should wait for the final release. When this happens, user should install the latest Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio series driver available.


This download supports the following audio devices only:

•PCI Express® Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio
•Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio Notebook


Requirements:

•Microsoft Windows 7 Beta
•Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio series audio devices listed above

Also of note, as of February 2, Creative have also recently released newer versions of the following applications: http://support.creative.com/downloads/?h=7

• Creative MediaSource 5 Player / Organizer version 5.25.02
  
• Creative SoundFont Bank Manager version 3.21.00
  
• Creative Media Toolbox version 6.02.09
  
• Creative Diagnostics version 5.11.00
  
• Creative WaveStudio version 7.11.00
  
• Creative 3D MIDI Player version 1.11.00

 

[GlouGlou]

sorry I missed this post . . .

how do you have the mic connection from your headset plugged into the card? At the PCI plate, or at through a front panel connection?

And i missed your reply .

Well, this wireless headset is using its own X-Fi soundcard. Thus, I can't be wrong about the mic connection.

Here is a picture of the product: http://images.europe.creative.com/iss/images/artwork/A4_RGB/HS1200_1.jpg

I don't think there is much I can do except praying for new drivers

Thank you for helping me.

 

[Polaris573]

Have any of you used the Linux drivers for the X-Fi? I'm glad after years they finally exist, but the sound quality is awful. I would still be better off with my integrated audio if I wasn't too lazy to switch in the inputs whenever I logged into linux.