TPU's Core i7 Overclocking and Feedback

[DanishDevil]

DTek Fuzion v1 or v2 would work great.

The problem with the GTZs is that they don't cover all components of the i7 effectively. The Fuzions work great, and if you're worried about flow, get a v1, or get a v2 with one of fit's tops (if he's got any left). The v2 still has great flow, but it doesn't compare to the v1 or the fit top.

Edit: Fit beat me to it

 

[Thrackan]

Depends on what you want Restrictive or non-restructive. The more restrictive the cpu block the less restrictive you have to make your tubing and radiator, and you have to purchase a more powerful pump as well.

The stuff I'm getting out of the deal are an Eheim 1048 Specs and a BlackIce Pro II (2x120mm) rad, along with some G1/4 screw fittings and 8mm (5/16) tubing.

 

[DanishDevil]

Swap everything out for 1/2" barbs and 7/16ID tubing. You'll be much better off.

 

[Thrackan]

That would mean just getting a pump/rad for a nice low price then... I understand bigger tubes is usually better, but that kind of puts a dent in the easy acquiring of half a starter-kit

Bigger tubes would get you a higher flow rate, but would it make sense to go bigger with "just" a 1048 pump?

 

[Fitseries3]

DTek Fuzion v1 or v2 would work great.

The problem with the GTZs is that they don't cover all components of the i7 effectively. The Fuzions work great, and if you're worried about flow, get a v1, or get a v2 with one of fit's tops (if he's got any left). The v2 still has great flow, but it doesn't compare to the v1 or the fit top.

Edit: Fit beat me to it

TB(brutally)H....

the fuzion is not ideal for i7. it works better than GTZ for sure but you may want to look at some other blocks that get overlooked...

GTX
GT
apogee
enzotech saphire
EK supreme
EK supreme LT
heatkiller

 

[Binge]

The stuff I'm getting out of the deal are an Eheim 1048 Specs and a BlackIce Pro II (2x120mm) rad, along with some G1/4 screw fittings and 8mm (5/16) tubing.

Don't get an Eheim... they are complete doo doo, but if you want to have your loop break down a bunch, go for it!

 

[Wile E]

TB(brutally)H....

the fuzion is not ideal for i7. it works better than GTZ for sure but you may want to look at some other blocks that get overlooked...

GTX
GT
apogee
enzotech saphire
EK supreme
EK supreme LT
heatkiller

The Fuzion should do better than the Apogee, GT, or GTX without a problem. Just need to play around with nozzles. I don't think the quad nozzle would benefit an i7 because of it's die size, so that leaves the other options that come in the nozzle kit. I bet the largest standard nozzle would kick ass on i7.

 

[Fitseries3]

here is why i say GTZ is shit for i7....


the blue rectangle represents the i7 Die under the IHS of the i7 chip...

notice how it doesnt cover the entire Die. the parts not covered are the QPI links and memory controller.



here's the dtek fuzion v1/v2 base....

and a GT/GTX base which obviously covers the whole core.....

The Fuzion should do better than the Apogee, GT, or GTX without a problem. Just need to play around with nozzles. I don't think the quad nozzle would benefit an i7 because of it's die size, so that leaves the other options that come in the nozzle kit. I bet the largest standard nozzle would kick ass on i7.

look more closely at what i posted above and you will see why the fuzion DOES NOT do better than the GT/GTX.

the GT/GTX has 30% more area than the fuzion

 

[Thrackan]

Heh, I did start up a constructive discussion, didn't I?

Since everything except the rad on the deal has now been officially criticized, I guess it would be better to go look for a better deal here :shadedshu

 

[Fitseries3]

TBH... the rad is a bit lacking as well but its up to you.

 

[DanishDevil]

TB(brutally)H....

the fuzion is not ideal for i7. it works better than GTZ for sure but you may want to look at some other blocks that get overlooked...

GTX
GT
apogee
enzotech saphire
EK supreme
EK supreme LT
heatkiller

Isn't the Enzotech Sapphire a rebranded Fuzion? The cooling design is identical.

 

[Fitseries3]

not even close DD.

you need to look into the sapphire. its a whole different design.

 

[Thrackan]

Meh, I'm going to find better components then... But I'm still (obviously) interested in the i7 CPU block question, so keep this going!

 

[Binge]

Isn't the Enzotech Sapphire a rebranded Fuzion? The cooling design is identical.

The sapphire has different insides than the Fuzion but the ammount of restriction is nearly identical. Also the top to the Sapphire tends to break if you tighten the fittings too much.

 

[dark2099]

Thanks for that bit of info Binge, I just gone one of those this week and do tighten things a bit too much myself.

 

[Binge]

I've thought about getting one myself and making new tops for the, and that was a complaint nearly every owner of the Sapphire had. I hear they do pretty well on the i7. Keep us posted with your temps Dark

 

[Fitseries3]

http://www.octeamdenmark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=519

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=7&artpage=3112&articID=627

 

[Wile E]

look more closely at what i posted above and you will see why the fuzion DOES NOT do better than the GT/GTX.

the GT/GTX has 30% more area than the fuzion

Area is not the only contributing factor to performance. If it was, the GTX/GT/Apogee would always outperform the Fuzion. But they don't. Flow and pin design are just as important.

 

[dark2099]

I've thought about getting one myself and making new tops for the, and that was a complaint nearly every owner of the Sapphire had. I hear they do pretty well on the i7. Keep us posted with your temps Dark

If I remember the next time I have a day off from work, I'll try to do a mini review of mine and compare to my GTZ. Haven't done much OCing or anythng with it on, but the temps are more even across all the cores.

 

[The Haunted]

I got myself a ek supreme for my i7 build and i am not disappointed.
The cpu don't go over 60c at 4.2ghz HT off and 1.42 vcore

 

[Binge]

Area is not the only contributing factor to performance. If it was, the GTX/GT/Apogee would always outperform the Fuzion. But they don't. Flow and pin design are just as important.

I'd have to agree... not trying to say the GTX vs GTZ is better one way or the other but my temps have always been stellar with the GTZ. When I had low ambient temps around 20C I would see results of 28C idle or better. With ambient around 24-25C I would see 32C or better idle. Load temps were the same no matter my ambient @ 66C 1.4v 4.2GHz HT on.

 

[dark2099]

How is that Biostar board The Haunted? I was thinking about one to replace the P6T I originally had. Saw it held the OC record for the i7 940 chip and the P45 boards they had were amazing so hoping they continued that with X58.

 

[The Haunted]

How is that Biostar board The Haunted? I was thinking about one to replace the P6T I originally had. Saw it held the OC record for the i7 940 chip and the P45 boards they had were amazing so hoping they continued that with X58.

Overall its a good board, relatively simple bios but it does the job.
The board layout is perfect if you have a pci sound card and crossfire (the reason i choose this board)
Asus ones have a very poor slot layout imo

 

[Binge]

Overall its a good board, relatively simple bios but it does the job.
The board layout is perfect if you have a pci sound card and crossfire (the reason i choose this board)
Asus ones have a very poor slot layout imo

I hate the ASUS boards, they dropped the ball on x58

 

[dark2099]

Yea, the P6T Deluxe that I had was very poorly designed when it came to the expansion slots. The normal P6T is a bit better IMPO. The P6T6 I have now is a crazy board, 6 PCI-E, no IDE or Floppy connection. No other types of slots (PCI, PCIX, etc.). If, I had the $, I would keep this board to use in a folding rig, but going to sell it to fund my switch to DFI.