TPU's Core i7 Overclocking and Feedback

[Chicken Patty]

Push has always been the best for everyone I've talked to. Certainly is for me.

Yeah its always easier to push than to pull. Thats the way i look at it. Temps dropped considerably

 

[PaulieG]

how much do each of your core differ in temp

I differ only 2 to 3c between all cores.

 

[Chicken Patty]

I differ only 2 to 3c between all cores.

power of the dtek

 

[PaulieG]

power of the dtek

LOL. Actually I just sold it though. Decided to try an EK Supreme LT and I bought a better rad. Hope I don't regret it.

 

[Chicken Patty]

LOL. Actually I just sold it though. Decided to try an EK Supreme LT and I bought a better rad. Hope I don't regret it.

good luck, let usk now how the results turn out

 

[Binge]

1.4v @ 3.2 idles @ 60c

what the heck is wrong? this thing will not oc on this board i keep playing around with it and nothing works.

updated bios btw . check sp

1.4v @ 3.2GHz is NOT good.

Since you have a UT I need to see your bios via this template...

Genie BIOS Setting

CPU Feature
Set VR Current Limit Max: Disabled
Thermal Management Control: Disabled
EIST Function: Disabled
CxE Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
TDC Enable: Disabled
x TDC Limit: 0
TDP Enable: Disabled
x TDP Limit: 0

***** Logical Processor Setting *****
Intel HT Technology: Enabled
Active Processor Cores: All

DRAM Timing
Memory Control Setting: AUTO
Memory LowGap: 1536M

DRAM Command Rate: AUTO/1N/2N etc
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 9
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 9
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 9
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 24
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): AUTO
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO
Row Cycle Time (tRC): AUTO
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
Four ACT WIN Time (tFAW): AUTO

Voltage Setting
O.C. Shut Down Free: Enable O.C.S.D.F
CPU VID Control: AUTO
CPU VID Special Add Limit: Enabled
CPU VID Special Add: Auto
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
DRAM Bus Voltage: 1.605v
DRAM PWM Switch Frequency: Nominal
DRAM PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU VTT Special Add: AUTO
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.21v
VTT PWM Switch Frequency: Nominal
VTT PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.80v
IOH/ICH 1.1V Voltage: 1.11v
IOH Analog Voltage: 1.10v
ICH 1.5 Voltage: 1.5v
ICH 1.05V Voltage: 1.05v
DIMM 1/2 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 3/4 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 5/6 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
ADDR/CMD VREF Control: Disabled
x DIMM 1/2 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
x DIMM 3/4 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
x DIMM 5/6 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
CPU QPI Drive Strength: Normal
IOH QPI Drive Strength: Normal

Exit Setup Shut down: Mode 2
O.C. Fail Retry Counter: Enabled
O.C. Fail CMOS Reload: Disabled

PPM Function: Enabled
Turbo Mode Function: Disabled
1 core Max Turbo Ratio: 22x
2 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
3 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
4 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
CPU Non-Turbo Clock Ratio: 20x

* BCLK/UCLK/QPI Controller Settings *
QPI Control Settings: Enabled
QPI Link Fast Mode: Enabled
QPI Frequency: AUTO/4.8GT/s/5.866GT/s/6.4GT/s
CPU Base Clock (BCLK): 133 Mhz
Boot Up CPU Base Clock: AUTO
PCIE Clock: 100 Mhz
DRAM Frequency: AUTO/800Mhz/1067Mhz/1333Mhz/1600Mhz/1866Mhz/2133Mhz (ratio referenced to default 133 bclk - so 1333Mhz /133Mhz = 10x DRAM multiplier)
UnCore Frequency: AUTO/1600/2133/2400/2666/2933/3200/3466/3733/4000/4266 (optimal to keep Uncore at 2x DRAM Frequency)

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

For instance mine is:

Genie BIOS Setting

CPU Feature
Set VR Current Limit Max: Enabled
Thermal Management Control: Disabled
EIST Function: Enabled
CxE Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
TDC Enable: Disabled
x TDC Limit: 0
TDP Enable: Disabled
x TDP Limit: 0

***** Logical Processor Setting *****
Intel HT Technology: Enabled
Active Processor Cores: All

DRAM Timing
Memory Control Setting: AUTO
Memory LowGap: 1536M

DRAM Command Rate: 1N
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 8
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 8
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 8
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 21
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): AUTO
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO
Row Cycle Time (tRC): AUTO
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
Four ACT WIN Time (tFAW): AUTO

Voltage Setting
O.C. Shut Down Free: Enable O.C.S.D.F
CPU VID Control: 1.400V
CPU VID Special Add Limit: Disabled
CPU VID Special Add: Auto
Vcore Droop Control: Disabled
DRAM Bus Voltage: 1.665v
DRAM PWM Switch Frequency: Decrease 15%
DRAM PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU VTT Special Add: AUTO
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.26v
VTT PWM Switch Frequency: Increase 30%
VTT PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.80v
IOH/ICH 1.1V Voltage: 1.21v
IOH Analog Voltage: 1.15v
ICH 1.5 Voltage: 1.7v
ICH 1.05V Voltage: 1.05v
DIMM 1/2 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 3/4 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 5/6 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
ADDR/CMD VREF Control: Disabled
x DIMM 1/2 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
x DIMM 3/4 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
x DIMM 5/6 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
CPU QPI Drive Strength: Normal
IOH QPI Drive Strength: Normal

Exit Setup Shut down: Mode 2
O.C. Fail Retry Counter: Enabled
O.C. Fail CMOS Reload: Disabled

PPM Function: Enabled
Turbo Mode Function: Enabled
1 core Max Turbo Ratio: 22x
2 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
3 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
4 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
CPU Non-Turbo Clock Ratio: 20x

* BCLK/UCLK/QPI Controller Settings *
QPI Control Settings: Enabled
QPI Link Fast Mode: Enabled
QPI Frequency: AUTO
CPU Base Clock (BCLK): 200 Mhz
Boot Up CPU Base Clock: AUTO
PCIE Clock: 100 Mhz
DRAM Frequency: 1600MHz
UnCore Frequency: 3466MHz

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

 

[freaksavior]

1.4v @ 3.2GHz is NOT good.

Since you have a UT I need to see your bios via this template...



For instance mine is:

Genie BIOS Setting

CPU Feature
Set VR Current Limit Max: Enabled
Thermal Management Control: Disabled
EIST Function: Enabled
CxE Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
TDC Enable: Disabled
x TDC Limit: 0
TDP Enable: Disabled
x TDP Limit: 0

***** Logical Processor Setting *****
Intel HT Technology: Enabled
Active Processor Cores: All

DRAM Timing
Memory Control Setting: AUTO
Memory LowGap: 1536M

DRAM Command Rate: 1N
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 8
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 8
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 8
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 21
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): AUTO
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO
Row Cycle Time (tRC): AUTO
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
Four ACT WIN Time (tFAW): AUTO

Voltage Setting
O.C. Shut Down Free: Enable O.C.S.D.F
CPU VID Control: 1.400V
CPU VID Special Add Limit: Disabled
CPU VID Special Add: Auto
Vcore Droop Control: Disabled
DRAM Bus Voltage: 1.665v
DRAM PWM Switch Frequency: Decrease 15%
DRAM PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU VTT Special Add: AUTO
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.26v
VTT PWM Switch Frequency: Increase 30%
VTT PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.80v
IOH/ICH 1.1V Voltage: 1.21v
IOH Analog Voltage: 1.15v
ICH 1.5 Voltage: 1.7v
ICH 1.05V Voltage: 1.05v
DIMM 1/2 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 3/4 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 5/6 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
ADDR/CMD VREF Control: Disabled
x DIMM 1/2 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
x DIMM 3/4 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
x DIMM 5/6 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
CPU QPI Drive Strength: Normal
IOH QPI Drive Strength: Normal

Exit Setup Shut down: Mode 2
O.C. Fail Retry Counter: Enabled
O.C. Fail CMOS Reload: Disabled

PPM Function: Enabled
Turbo Mode Function: Enabled
1 core Max Turbo Ratio: 22x
2 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
3 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
4 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
CPU Non-Turbo Clock Ratio: 20x

* BCLK/UCLK/QPI Controller Settings *
QPI Control Settings: Enabled
QPI Link Fast Mode: Enabled
QPI Frequency: AUTO
CPU Base Clock (BCLK): 200 Mhz
Boot Up CPU Base Clock: AUTO
PCIE Clock: 100 Mhz
DRAM Frequency: 1600MHz
UnCore Frequency: 3466MHz

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

just did that EXACTLY and it posted successfully

i wish i could hit thanks more than 1 time.

okay this seemed to work well. So to push it to about 4.4 what should i do?

and why temps high? i resetead block and re did thermal crap but no avail? i'll try one more time. should i loosen the block some?

 

[Binge]

I don't know why you copied my spec to the letter, but I'm glad it worked. I really wish people would read more in this thread.

A while ago someone posted that they left something on the bottom of their block. What kind of a block are you using? Water? AIR? 4.4GHz? Well you just tweak it like I had to tweak my settings to get them. I'm no rocket scientist guru but I have a method for problem solving.

It's detailed here: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=1248090&postcount=2305

One of the first things I mentioned is that everyone who is anyone that overclocks i7 knows that no two i7 CPU are the same. There may be similarities but each one can be tweaked a different way. You could end up being able to get even more stable with different settings, but if you find that yours work with the EXACT same as mine then you're one lucky guy. Congrats.

::EDIT:: I read your specs. Could you post a picture of your water setup?

 

[trt740]

I differ only 2 to 3c between all cores.

The good thing is three cores are within 3 degree of each other but one core run about 6-8 degree colder than the rest. Alt least it colder and not hotter. LOL!!!

 

[Thrackan]

Usually here, core 1 is on top, then core 2 within 2-3 degrees, followed by 3 and 4 which are a couple of degrees lower, 5 or something.

 

[Tatty_Two]

The good thing is three cores are within 3 degree of each other but one core run about 6-8 degree colder than the rest. Alt least it colder and not hotter. LOL!!!

Hows that Noctua holding up with them temps in the i7 Tom?

 

[PaulieG]

Hows that Noctua holding up with them temps in the i7 Tom?

Yup, I'd like to see that too. Time for some screenshots Tom!

I don't know why you copied my spec to the letter, but I'm glad it worked. I really wish people would read more in this thread.

A while ago someone posted that they left something on the bottom of their block. What kind of a block are you using? Water? AIR? 4.4GHz? Well you just tweak it like I had to tweak my settings to get them. I'm no rocket scientist guru but I have a method for problem solving.

It's detailed here: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=1248090&postcount=2305

One of the first things I mentioned is that everyone who is anyone that overclocks i7 knows that no two i7 CPU are the same. There may be similarities but each one can be tweaked a different way. You could end up being able to get even more stable with different settings, but if you find that yours work with the EXACT same as mine then you're one lucky guy. Congrats.

::EDIT:: I read your specs. Could you post a picture of your water setup?

It is nice sometimes to have a basic template for what works for a decent overclock that posts. Even with i7's there is some consistency with mild and moderate overclocking settings.

 

[trt740]

Hows that Noctua holding up with them temps in the i7 Tom?

It seems to be doing very well it keeps 3 cores under load at 75c to 79c and the coolest core at 73c using 1.336v 3.8ghz. I cannot do 4.0 24/7 on air because this MSI board, as good as it is for the money, only has 5 phase power and that equates to 1.40v to get stable at 4.0ghz causing too much heat for even my Noctua. I really , really like this board for the value but I may return it for something with a tiny bit more power phases. If I was on water this would not be a issue at all, and this board would easily break 4.0ghz 24/7. This set up will do way over 4.0ghz with HT off , because of the lessening of heat , but that defeats the purpose. The Noctua has to be one of the best air cooler out but this board requires too much voltage for even it to handle. To be fair, as well, the Noctua mounting bracket came bent, which maybe the reason for the slightly elevated temps. I'm gonna re-seat it tomorrow and see about lowering these temps a bit.

 

[Fitseries3]

 

[trt740]

http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23926&stc=1&d=1237475297

I think I'm gonna get a blood rage but I want to give this a bit. Seems on this thread others are doing better than I am it may just be my lack of experience overclocking these chips. Playing with the QPI voltage right now. Cannot say enough about this cheapo motherboard, bang for the buck out the azz..

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=212174

 

[Fitseries3]

i got mine from DFI on review.

i highly recommend the DFI X58s.

they have amazing bios's with tons of options.

i have both the UT and the DK x58 now.

 

[Thrackan]

SLI on non-SLI motherboards? Yes indeed!

 

[Fitseries3]

its not a trick really.

several companies wrote SLI support into the newest or upcomming bios's for boards that didnt previously support it.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Would any of you experienced i7 overclockers/users mind listing quickly what you beleive to be say the best 5 overclocking x58 boards please, soon be upgrade time and I need to start doing some prep, by preference I like Gigabyte if they have any top notch boards. Dont really want Anus, I am starting to get a bit piss*d off with them :shadedshu

Thanks guys!

 

[Thrackan]

its not a trick really.

several companies wrote SLI support into the newest or upcomming bios's for boards that didnt previously support it.

Not really a trick, no, but if I read the article I got this link from correctly it's just a license thing. nVidia still sells licenses for SLI support, while ATi made Crossfire support freely available to motherboard manufacturers.

So basically, at least in Gigabytes case, the UD4 and UD4P are exactly the same board, except for the SLI license.

 

[Fitseries3]

1. DFI
2. gigabyte
3. foxconn

 

[Tatty_Two]

1. DFI
2. gigabyte
3. foxconn

Know of any particularily good models for the Gig? UD whatever 5?

 

[Fitseries3]

any model. thats why i said it that way.

 

[trt740]

Tatty here is what most board take for 4.0ghz on a noctua

Know of any particularily good models for the Gig? UD whatever 5?

air cooler with dual fans, still in the safe area but a bit hot and this is not my final clock or voltage .I'm just trying to get a decent stable clock which this is. Here are the temps you wanted, now the stock cooler would be over 20c hotter

 

[Thrackan]

Damn! 86C! And on 3.8Ghz!

I'm so happy with my WC now