The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club

[cdawall]

I am considering De-IHSing my Phenom II, i have successfully done this to my old Athlon 64 X2 4600+ and dropped 5^ C by mounting the waterblock right onto the die carefully with AS5.

Unless they changed, the paste they put between the die and the IHS is pretty crappy. low quality cpu paste.

i have actually heard of people trying to do this with dremels, let me say, MORON!

How To:
4 Razor blades, preferably the adjustable length ones that can extent to about 3-4 inches of exposed blade!

hack saw the glue all around the ihs making DAMN sure you keep the blade PARALLEL to the processors circuit board as so to not cut into it.

And never cut deeper then the thinkness of a toothpick or so, the IHS gue is like the thickness of 2 quarters depth wise, and only paper thin.

cutting any further usually means you risk cutting a mosfet right off the circuit board like yet another dork on youtube.

and never get frustrated and just try pulling the damn thing off, even once its loose!
a particular dummy pulled the die right off the circuit board, and it was an FX-60.

the paste while crappy does get hard and stick like any cpu paste does! gentle slight twists back and forth to break the seal just like a HSF. eventually it will just lift off effortlessly!

I pushed my X2 4600+ (2.4ghz) straight to 2.85 at 40C without the IHS, with the IHS i only got 2.7 and it was 45+C

they solder the die to the IHS with phenom II if you want to take it off you have to either sand through it or heat the chip

 

[OzzmanFloyd120]

they solder the die to the IHS with phenom II if you want to take it off you have to either sand through it or heat the chip

Yep, Kei had done this with a hand full of his 9850 chips and learned the hard way.

 

[eidairaman1]

they solder the die to the IHS with phenom II if you want to take it off you have to either sand through it or heat the chip

basically the Intel Core 2 Process, Only reason they are doing that now is to have a metal interface to the IHS, and also prevent users from tampering with the Processor, i guess theyve had alot of complaints or had CPUs sent back to them with the IHS removed and broke.

 

[Flyordie]

I intend on pushing the 920 into the leaderboard soon. ;-) Expect to see some 300Mhz+ FSB speeds. Just after I get the board RMA'd.... Its been confirmed my X4 920 will do 3,581Mhz on 1.35V so its a good die and should be able to do 3.8-4.0 on air. ;-)

 

[cdawall]

leader board is getting kinda high lowest is 4018mhz held by master}{

 

[Flyordie]

Then I shall get my pot ready.... I have 12L of LN2 cdawall. ;-)

 

[Kei]

Negative?

Yep, Kei had done this with a hand full of his 9850 chips and learned the hard way.

I never killed any 9850's Ozz

I never went as far as to take off the IHS on a Phenom because I'm a pansy. I did however lap my 9850 just to see if the temps would lower at all which they did. It still worked perfectly though, I think you're confused with someone who posted over there.

Kei <----love Phenom's too much to kill one

 

[Kei]

I intend on pushing the 920 into the leaderboard soon. ;-) Expect to see some 300Mhz+ FSB speeds. Just after I get the board RMA'd.... Its been confirmed my X4 920 will do 3,581Mhz on 1.35V so its a good die and should be able to do 3.8-4.0 on air. ;-)

When you did the 3581Mhz was that on air cooling or something else? I think I could only make it to 3.4Ghz on stock voltage but it's been a while so maybe I was wrong. Either way it wasn't stable at that voltage but I was happy I could do that at all.

As for HTT speeds I'm sure you'll see 300Mhz+ on your 920 just like I did. I never did any further testing once I'd reached 372Mhz HTT and so far I've heard nothing but great about HTT clocking with PII's.

I made it to a tick over 3.8Ghz on my 920 with all four cores active on air cooling. When I disabled 2 cores (awesome ASUS bios option) I made it to 3.92Ghz on the same voltage still on air cooling. I could probably make it to 3.9Ghz with all four cores enabled, but it would take some work I think.

Kei

 

[Flyordie]

When you did the 3581Mhz was that on air cooling or something else? I think I could only make it to 3.4Ghz on stock voltage but it's been a while so maybe I was wrong. Either way it wasn't stable at that voltage but I was happy I could do that at all.

As for HTT speeds I'm sure you'll see 300Mhz+ on your 920 just like I did. I never did any further testing once I'd reached 372Mhz HTT and so far I've heard nothing but great about HTT clocking with PII's.

I made it to a tick over 3.8Ghz on my 920 with all four cores active on air cooling. When I disabled 2 cores (awesome ASUS bios option) I made it to 3.92Ghz on the same voltage still on air cooling. I could probably make it to 3.9Ghz with all four cores enabled, but it would take some work I think.

Kei

It was on the stock AMD HSF. lol.

 

[Meltdown]

Membership still available?? Here are screenies & validation.

http://img.techpowerup.org/090322/CPUZ Validation.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/090322/Screen 19674.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/090322/Vantage 12231216.jpg

My 2 4850s are still stock. That being said, how do the 3dmark scores look?

3dmark scores looks good hears pic my system little different but give a comparison keep at it

 

[Meltdown]

http://img.techpowerup.org/090322/3dmarks 13700.png

 

[cdawall]

Then I shall get my pot ready.... I have 12L of LN2 cdawall. ;-)

sounds good i have DICE still and my chip has already done 4.9

 

[Assassin48]

http://img.techpowerup.org/090322/3dmarks 13700.png

Mine @ 3.7
4870x2 stock clocks

3DMARK06 = 19945
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=10414476

 

[3dsage]

Thanks for throwing me up there ShadowFold.

First time i've been in the top 5 in any category in this Forum or any, lol

 

[Supreme0verlord]

I decided to play around with undervolting my CPU and here is what I got.

That's as far as I can go with it being Prime95 stable. (Default was 1.325v).

 

[Master}{]

leader board is getting kinda high lowest is 4018mhz held by master}{

Forgive cdawall he thinks he is allowed to post more than one entry to the top 5, in which he is not!

getting your ES to many differing speeds and expecting to post them all in the top 5 is thickness on you part.

Plus he cant get his validated, i took the time to get mine validated!

But it does require actually trying mind you...

 

[Flyordie]

I think we should have a split OC leaderboard since more and more types of PIIs are coming out in April.


Overall Top 5
--
X4 Top 10
--
X3 Top 10
--
X2 Top 10
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X1 Top 10 (yes, a PII X1 is planned, due for release in June)

 

[wojo]

3403.63 MHz on X3 720

3403.63 MHz on X3 720 thats the best I've done for now with a stock fan I had it up past 3500
but it was not very stable.
Bob

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=532731

 

[Supreme0verlord]

I think we should have a split OC leaderboard since more and more types of PIIs are coming out in April.


Overall Top 5
--
X4 Top 10
--
X3 Top 10
--
X2 Top 10
--
X1 Top 10 (yes, a PII X1 is planned, due for release in June)

Yeah I completely agree with that, hopefully Shadow will change it.

 

[Supreme0verlord]

3403.63 MHz on X3 720 thats the best I've done for now with a stock fan I had it up past 3500
but it was not very stable.
Bob

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=532731

That's not to bad for the stock heatsink. Are you planning on getting a aftermarket HS?

 

[wojo]

That's not to bad for the stock heatsink. Are you planning on getting a aftermarket HS?

I would like to go with water or a peltier but I have a bad back and cant work anymore so I don't have a lot of extra money to get one at this time. Any ideas for a heatsink and fan that does not cost a lot, A lot for me is around $50 at this time. The system I just built was done with income tax refund.
Bob

 

[Flyordie]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185046

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835202010

 

[Supreme0verlord]

The best HS, IMO, would be the Xigmatek HDT-S1284EE, I just got one and I'm really glad I did. When I put my 720 under load, the heatsink doesn't even get warm to the touch, this thing is a beast! Of course it's still at stock and undervolted so I guess there's no surprise there.

 

[Flyordie]

Yea, S1284 is still up there... its just been improved by other companies. I can get 3,581Mhz on the stock AMD HSF with stock volts so pretty much anything is better than the aluminum block that came with the 720 you have. (I have heard thats what comes with the 720BE)...

 

[Supreme0verlord]

Yeah the 720 pretty much comes with a block of aluminum lol. You can see what it look's like here.