TPU's Core i7 Overclocking and Feedback

[trt740]

Well, if Biostar fixed the memory issues as "Techiman" at Rebels told me, then the Biostar is a good option. It was my only complaint with the board.

Paul whats a Techiman and wheres Rebels? and the memory fix thing was posted on xstreme.

 

[PaulieG]

Paul whats a Techiman and wheres Rebels? and the memory fix thing was posted on xstreme.

"Techiman" is a US Biostar rep, and this is Rebels, the largest Biostar community on the planet:

http://www.rebelshavenforum.com/sis-bin/ultimatebb.cgi

He contacted me a couple of days ago, wanting to know if I wanted to test a beta bios with a memory fix, but he didn't realize that I had returned the board.

 

[trt740]

"Techiman" is a US Biostar rep, and this is Rebels, the largest Biostar community on the planet:

http://www.rebelshavenforum.com/sis-bin/ultimatebb.cgi

He contracted me a couple of days ago, wanting to know if I wanted to test a beta bios with a memory fix, but he didn't realize that I had returned the board.

heres a good review on it

http://google.com/translate?langpai.../lire/1261/biostar-tpower-x58-l--alternative/
here is another
http://google.com/translate?langpai...01/ett-sockel-1366-moderkort-for-overklockare

seems to be a hell of a board

http://www.rebelshavenforum.com/sis-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=49;t=000013

 

[mudkip]

heres a good review on it

http://google.com/translate?langpai.../lire/1261/biostar-tpower-x58-l--alternative/
here is another
http://google.com/translate?langpai...01/ett-sockel-1366-moderkort-for-overklockare

seems to be a hell of a board

http://www.rebelshavenforum.com/sis-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=49;t=000013

Damn seems like a nice mobo.. maby I should sell my UD5

 

[Fitseries3]

But are some of the 6 phase DFI boards really defective? I aint paying £320 for the 8 phaser!

the ONLY thing wrong with this DK x58 DFI i have is i killed the lan port. i was running ixchariot and i killed it.

im RMAing it this week and selling it when i get the new one.

the DK OCes same as this UT. same settings... and the DK is actually a tad easier to OC.

 

[Tatty_Two]

the ONLY thing wrong with this DK x58 DFI i have is i killed the lan port. i was running ixchariot and i killed it.

im RMAing it this week and selling it when i get the new one.

the DK OCes same as this UT. same settings... and the DK is actually a tad easier to OC.

Your winning me round .... I will be on air to start, going water probably next month, dont want to fork out all the cash in one sitting (wife gets a bit twitchy). I just think with DFI boards, it takes twice as long to master the i7 overclocking as you need a Brain Surgeon course just to master it's BIOS!

 

[Tatty_Two]

Tatty I have had three of these motherboards now and for the first time quality makes a giant difference and the gigabyte boards have a high failure rate and don't overclock well compared to the digital boards. Do yourself a favor and by a higher end board. The new Rampage gene looks high quality as does the Biostar for analog boards . With it new bios, the biostar, is supposed to be very good and has 12 phase power. They had memory trouble but the new bios has fixed that.
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If your gonna go low end get these

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138135
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131371
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813136066

They are smaller but don't let that fool you all overclock very well and the rampage gene has 16 phase power that can be activated in the bios(or so I have read), by default it's 8+2+2+2, DFi has 6+2 digital power and the biostar 12+2 analog power. Once again the Biostar has been fixed with a new bios release.

Lol Tom, one of the 2 DFI boards are actually "budget" and cost less over here than the Gigabyte's UD4P which is mid, and UD5 which is mid high, and to say that they dont overclock very well kind of makes System Vipers 4.66gig with a 920 on the Gigabyte UD4P board kind of surprising!

 

[Binge]

UD4 and UD5 are the same board with different heat spreaders... :shadedshu

 

[Tatty_Two]

UD4 and UD5 are the same board with different heat spreaders... :shadedshu

I know, what I meant by mid and mid/high is their pricing in comparision to the 6 phase DFI. Damn I cant make up my mind with these boards, I have just been looking at reviews for the Biostar and in the 3 reviews I have read so far it has out clocked the DFI on every one, it seems the memory issue it had has also been sorted.

Decisions, decisions

 

[Binge]

I am not a fan of Biostar's bios tbh... when you get into normal overclocking of i7 it seems to go against the grain...

 

[Tatty_Two]

I am not a fan of Biostar's bios tbh... when you get into normal overclocking of i7 it seems to go against the grain...

Have never tried them before, I feel like a change, I might give them a try!

 

[trt740]

Lol Tom, one of the 2 DFI boards are actually "budget" and cost less over here than the Gigabyte's UD4P which is mid, and UD5 which is mid high, and to say that they dont overclock very well kind of makes System Vipers 4.66gig with a 920 on the Gigabyte UD4P board kind of surprising!

I'm sure it does those speeds but at what voltage does it get to 4.0ghz is the question and the boards I listed were lower priced because you said you didn't want to pay 300.00

 

[Tatty_Two]

I'm sure it does those speeds but at what voltage does it get to 4.0ghz is the question.

1.372v but that of course to some degree depends on the chip also.

 

[trt740]

1.372v but that of course to some degree depends on the chip also.

and all these bios are very complicated so don't let that stop ya. They all make the Rampages bios 775 look tiny. Some DFI board take as little as 1.30v to get to 4.0ghz. Also this EVGA board I have will easily match that Gigabyte and there is a version of mine and chicken patty's boards that are 250.00. Once you figure out the voltage compensation they have set up these board really take off. My board will do 4.3ghz on air for benching. The only difference in the two boards is warranty. Plus we have both posted bios templates on a thread so 4.0ghz will take you about 30 second to obtain. After some new revelation I'm considering auto rmaing the DFI but we will see. Not that I don't want the DFI but considering the hassle to rebuild and to return this EVGA board thats doing 4.0ghz now at 1.364v. This is nothing to sneeze at http://img.techpowerup.org/090330/example four.jpg

templates http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=89450

 

[Tatty_Two]

I thought it was about time I got a grip and made up my mind, so I have and I am going for the DFI Lan Party LP DK X58-T3EH6.

 

[PaulieG]

Have never tried them before, I feel like a change, I might give them a try!

Hey Tatty. I've had both the Biostar x58 and the DFI Lan Party LP DK X58-T3EH6. Both are good boards, though I did have to RMA my first DFI, and I returned my Biostar due to the high speed memory issues. I gotta say, if Biostar did fix the memory issue, then it's a damn good board, and I was able to clock my i7 920 higher on the Biostar than the DFI. The Biostar also appeared to be built a bit "beefier". It was a heavier board, and the heatsinks seemed to be better designed. The one one place where the DFI shined is where DFI always does, the Bios. As far as support goes, I'd say Rebel's Haven is a better support site than DFI club, and the site administrator is constantly working on new beta bios.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Hey Tatty. I've had both the Biostar x58 and the DFI Lan Party LP DK X58-T3EH6. Both are good boards, though I did have to RMA my first DFI, and I returned my Biostar due to the high speed memory issues. I gotta say, if Biostar did fix the memory issue, then it's a damn good board, and I was able to clock my i7 920 higher on the Biostar than the DFI. The Biostar also appeared to be built a bit "beefier". It was a heavier board, and the heatsinks seemed to be better designed. The one one place where the DFI shined is where DFI always does, the Bios. As far as support goes, I'd say Rebel's Haven is a better support site than DFI club, and the site administrator is constantly working on new beta bios.

Thanks, sadly I ordered the DFI before I saw your post, hopefully I wont regret it! anyways DFI ordered, 920 ordered, 3GB Kit of OCZ 1600mhz 7-7-7-24 ordered along with a TRUE 1366 bolt through, will venture into water in the next few weeks, just need to spread the money so the wife dont notice it

Thanks to everyone for their help/advice!

 

[Fitseries3]

Your winning me round .... I will be on air to start, going water probably next month, dont want to fork out all the cash in one sitting (wife gets a bit twitchy). I just think with DFI boards, it takes twice as long to master the i7 overclocking as you need a Brain Surgeon course just to master it's BIOS!

i will tell you...

i changed 6 settings and had 4ghz/4.2ghz stable as a rock in about 3mins after taking the board out of the box.

 

[trt740]

i will tell you...

i changed 6 settings and had 4ghz/4.2ghz stable as a rock in about 3mins after taking the board out of the box.

that I believe, DFi is supposed to be easy to overclock.

 

[n-ster]

But you got to say... Fits is a really good OCer Indeed though, I would recommend DFI DK or giggy ud3/ud4 for i7 all the time, even a bit more the DFI, especially for noobs like me I finally saw an i7 in real life yesterday at my friends house (I chose the parts for him he didn't know what to get)... i7 920 OCed to 4ghz, DFI DK, 3gb of Corsair 50$ memory, some random great looking heat spreaders, 2 7200.12 500gb in RAID 0, gtx 260 216 55nm OCed, ASUS VH226H screen.... oh and some full tower case he MADE from scratch... Oh the the s1283V, GREAT system... I would suggest these parts to ANYONE

 

[Fitseries3]

i dont like the 55nm gtx260s. there is no voltage control and limited OCs. good ol' 192 cards are best OCing 260s you can get from my experience with 9 different cards.

i will say...

even though im a decent OCer, the DFI is really simple. it just plain works, no headaches like other mobos.

 

[Thrackan]

I'm thinking about switching to another mobo, but unfortunately I'm going to have to get another car first.
The guy who invented rust should have something horrible happen to him :shadedshu

 

[Binge]

I'm thinking about switching to another mobo, but unfortunately I'm going to have to get another car first.
The guy who invented rust should have something horrible happen to him :shadedshu

+1

On the subject of motherboards, I wish I had more to play with

 

[Tatty_Two]

i dont like the 55nm gtx260s. there is no voltage control and limited OCs. good ol' 192 cards are best OCing 260s you can get from my experience with 9 different cards.

i will say...

even though im a decent OCer, the DFI is really simple. it just plain works, no headaches like other mobos.

Agreed.... remember my outta the box gainward 260 @ 800

 

[Binge]

Ram stability achieved at super tight timings 1600MHz 6-7-6-16 Super Pi 32M stable/3D app stable. Here's my quote from i4memory.com

To add to this, but not to take away from eva's blazing speeds I wanted to share a little bit I've been doing with these Kingstons HyperX by tightening the timings to match the specs of Mushkin Redline rated at 1600 cas 6 timings.

The Mushkins will run at 6-7-6-18 1.65v, so far I've been reluctant to use them for super pi or WPrime benchmarks because for some reason they perform a second worse on each test in comparison to some Cruicial Value ram I overclocked from 1066MHz to 1600Mhz 8-8-8-21. That seems sort of odd, but even more strange is that EVERY application on my machine functioned the opposite way. Things were much more snappy. Higher CPU scores in vantage and a minor increase in frame rates. The only problem I'm finding with the Redlines is that they are unreliable... 4 days of owning the sticks and they are exhibiting signs of degradation. I saw the Kingston HyperX on newegg.com for $240.00 so I had to buy.

Here's what happened when I underclocked and tightened

My system is running at 4.2GHz 1.4000 Vcore in bios 1.408V from the multimeter, QPI @ 1.37V, DRAM @ 1.65V, Nominal VTT PWM frequency, -30% DRAM PWM frequency. Like it says in my MSN conversation I've NEVER had my i7 complete a 32M run. Everything else would be rock solid, but the XS Mod would always crash at around loop 15-18. Motherboard used was my DFI x58 T3eH8. Like I said earlier this is to show how flexible this ram can be and I am amazed. I hope this adds to the info eva has been able to provide so far.