The Pirate Bay in Legal Soup, Owners Fined and Jailed

[DaedalusHelios]

its bs imo.. they were conviceted with something redicilious like accesory to providing copyright infringement services or something ? :S, tpb is just a torrent serch engine they dont host the torrents themselves so there not actually doing anything illegal in that respect...

Welcome to TPU and nice special edition case you got there.

 

[Perra]

BS indeed but it'll be at least another 4-5 years before there's an end to this case.

It's fun to see tpb still going strong though.

 

[kyle2020]

I think after these last few films have downloaded im going to stop torrenting for a while, theres a massive crack down happening in the UK and I cant afford a £1000 fine.

I hope TPB rise above this though, knowing them they'll get away unscathed.

 

[MilkyWay]

so they got convicted right? forget it they probly watch it all the time, my isp probably knows i torrent every now and again
i know some people that all they have is torrented cds and movies if they had to pay for it all on top of a fine theyd be broke

 

[DrPepper]

so they got convicted right? forget it they probly watch it all the time, my isp probably knows i torrent every now and again
i know some people that all they have is torrented cds and movies if they had to pay for it all on top of a fine theyd be broke

They were convicted but they aren't in jail or anything they are going to appeal. If anything google or the search engines should be sued to for the same charges since they link you to torrents as well.

 

[kyle2020]

wasnt the fine initially over $20,000,000? I heard that the fine has been reduced to around $2,000,000 but they have said that even if they had that kind of money, they wouldnt pay the fine

What a kick in the nuts to highly priced games, DVD's and CD's.

 

[alexp999]

There are certain things I use torrents for, Pre-release stuff for example. I wouldnt be on build 7077 of Windows 7 without ThePirateBay.

But also I recently downloaded a particular game that I was right ready to buy, for the simple fact that the developers have a set number of activations on the product, before it is rendered utterly useless. Being a gamer and computer enthusiast I am constantly reformating and swapping out hardware so I would have been forced to download a copy anyway.

I download albums so that I can listen to them before I buy them, I dont pirate per say, only in circumstances I dont deem stealing, or like above, where I dont have a choice.

The problem comes based on your idea of piracy and stealing, hence why there are nearly 200 reponses to this article, in my view however, the fact remains that ThePirateBay does not store anything illegal, they mearly provide the way to do so.

IMO this is greed on the parts of record labels and developers, etc. And them seeing an opportunity, imagine how far this could be taken, like as has been previously noted, ban manufacturers of knives, guns, cars.

Maybe ban free will, where will it end?

 

[kyle2020]

^ +1

 

[TheMailMan78]

There are certain things I use torrents for, Pre-release stuff for example. I wouldn't be on build 7077 of Windows 7 without ThePirateBay.

But also I recently downloaded a particular game that I was right ready to buy, for the simple fact that the developers have a set number of activations on the product, before it is rendered utterly useless. Being a gamer and computer enthusiast I am constantly reformating and swapping out hardware so I would have been forced to download a copy anyway.

I download albums so that I can listen to them before I buy them, I dont pirate per say, only in circumstances I dont deem stealing, or like above, where I dont have a choice.

The problem comes based on your idea of piracy and stealing, hence why there are nearly 200 responses to this article, in my view however, the fact remains that ThePirateBay does not store anything illegal, they mearly provide the way to do so.

IMO this is greed on the parts of record labels and developers, etc. And them seeing an opportunity, imagine how far this could be taken, like as has been previously noted, ban manufacturers of knives, guns, cars.

Maybe ban free will, where will it end?

Well the whole reason why developers are going down the route of limited installs is because of places like Pirate Bay. You want to stop this trend? Don't buy their games and at the same time don't steal them ether. By doing that you are justifying their motive.

I also like your statement "where I don't have a choice.". I laughed at that one. What do you mean you don't have a choice? Does someone have a gun to your head forcing you to download illegal software? No. You make that choice yourself.

You point about cars, guns, and knives is really off point. Cars are not meant to kill. It happens by accident. Guns and knives are tools that can or cannot be used for good or evil. Sometimes they are just their to provide food. SO there is your argument. You only use it for backups and to try before you buy. Does that make it any less illegal? Do you ALWAYS buy the CD once you DL it? Really? The Pirate Bay however has a sole purpose. To steal. If it didn't then why call it "The Pirate Bay"? A better analogy would be to call The Pirate Bay a drug dealer. I mean its not doing the drugs. They are just providing a service. You are the junkie that is upset your supply of goods is going to be cut off. Or were you doing drugs to stick it to "The man"

As for the developer and record labels being greedy thats not something I subscribe to. They are making money like anyone else and the more you steal the more they will charge to make up for its loses. I also suspect you have never had anything you worked really hard on stolen.

 

[alexp999]

My point about not having a choice is that if I choose to want to play that game, I feel the devs have not given me a choice but to download it because of their ridiculous DRM. I was going to buy it if not for that.

And dont forget not everything on ThePirateBay is illegal, it is just a service. Whereas Drug Dealing is in fact Illegal in most countries.

I also suspect you have never had anything you worked really hard on stolen.

If only that were true

 

[TheMailMan78]

My point about not having a choice is that if I choose to want to play that game, I feel the devs have not given me a choice but to download it because of their ridiculous DRM. I was going to buy it if not for that.

And don't forget not everything on ThePirateBay is illegal, it is just a service. Whereas Drug Dealing is in fact Illegal in most countries.

Oh so its ok you steal because you feel the developer isn't fair in providing you the entertainment you want in the fashion you want it. Interesting view point.

If only that were true

Then why do you steal from other people?

 

[Relayer]

Was/Is there actually a law on the books for ‘assisting in making copyright content available’? I've never heard of it before. What are the statutes and penalties? It sounds more like a civil case than a case to be heard in a court of law.

 

[alexp999]

Oh so its ok you steal because you feel the developer isn't fair in providing you the entertainment you want in the fashion you want it. Interesting view point.


Then why do you steal from other people?

Would it make you feel better if I bought the game AND downloaded it?

 

[kyle2020]

Ignore him alex, he likes to stir, he's obviously the internet police officer here on TPU - I bet your hands arent so clean mail, Id be willing to bet you have downloaded something illegally in your past, so stop giving other members such a hard time.

 

[alexp999]

I dont mind,

But can I also say, to me its a bit of a stand to the Developers. If they see me happily buying DRM and activation-less games, but "pirating" DRM and activation limit games, then hopefully they will stop and realise something.

Hell, it worked for the Music industry, I now source all my music legally as its DRM free

 

[TheMailMan78]

Would it make you feel better if I bought the game AND downloaded it?

In a perfect world yes. But the sad part is services like TPB are designed and setup for theft. For every "honest" person on TPB there is 1000 thieves. So services like TPB should be shut down until a "legit" way of downloading backups is established.

Ignore him alex, he likes to stir, he's obviously the Internet police officer here on TPU - I bet your hands aren't so clean mail, Id be willing to bet you have downloaded something illegally in your past, so stop giving other members such a hard time.

Dude I ain't starting trouble. I'm just taking this opportunity to talk some sense into you guys. As for my "Hands being clean" I suggest you read the last paragraph of this post.

 

[alexp999]

See my post above, but it doesnt matter on the system implemented, people will still abuse it, I for one love GameCopyWorld, however I have only ever used it on games I legally own. If it wasnt for that site I wouldnt be able to play Crysis.

 

[pantherx12]

I constantly loose my game cds and such like, if it was not for these sites I could not fire up Total Annihilation and completely destroy the Core forces!

 

[kyle2020]

I cant play crysis warhead due to the install limit - so people arent allowed to reformat harddrives / invest in new motherboards? So what did I do? Downloaded a cracked .exe. OMGOSH! The world cries about it. But, no, they shouldnt, because I purchased the game legally, I have the disc, I have the activation code, its just because pathetic "Anti piracy" systems decide you install a game "x" number of times and thats your limit - Im sorry but if I buy a game, its mine and I own control over it, and I should be able to install it however many damn times I want.

 

[Relayer]

I have a scenario. Another review site breaks an NDA or someone in China sneaks a new vid card off of the production line and leaks a review out. If TPU reports on their findings and provides a link are they guilty of breaking their own NDA? Are they ‘assisting in making <insert legally correct word> content available’?

 

[TheMailMan78]

The activation limit isn't an argument. Just contact the developer and register your game. Problem solved.

I have a scenario. Another review site breaks an NDA or someone in China sneaks a new vid card off of the production line and leaks a review out. If TPU reports on their findings and provides a link are they guilty of breaking their own NDA? Are they ‘assisting in making <insert legally correct word> content available’?

I have no F#$king idea.

 

[kyle2020]

Of course its an arguement, why should I have to go out my way because we arent allowed free usage of products we have legally purchased?

 

[TheMailMan78]

Of course its an arguement, why should I have to go out my way because we arent allowed free usage of products we have legally purchased?

You do have free usage. However you also agreed to the EULA when you installed it the first time.

 

[farlex85]

I have a scenario. Another review site breaks an NDA or someone in China sneaks a new vid card off of the production line and leaks a review out. If TPU reports on their findings and provides a link are they guilty of breaking their own NDA? Are they ‘assisting in making <insert legally correct word> content available’?

Is that a law?

 

[kyle2020]

And do you honestly sit and read page after page of size 8 font? Of course you dont, you click accept and get into your game.

/unsubscribed, im fed up already haha.