TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

Chicken Patty · Apr 25, 2009

man we are on a role!!!

If I had the money I would build 20 i7 rigs for crunching lol :roll:

but of course, thats insane.

dark2099 · Apr 25, 2009

Calling Bill Gates. Which would cost more, a one time fee for a huge crunching/setup, or the energy bill to run it?

loonym · Apr 25, 2009

I'm almost at my goal of five i7's. Then I can dump my last two 775 quads.

loonym · Apr 25, 2009

dark2099 said:
Calling Bill Gates. Which would cost more, a one time fee for a huge crunching/setup, or the energy bill to run it?

You can build nice intel quad crunchers pretty cheap.

Chicken Patty · Apr 25, 2009

dark2099 said:
Calling Bill Gates. Which would cost more, a one time fee for a huge crunching/setup, or the energy bill to run it?

Interestting question

loonym said:
I'm almost at my goal of five i7's. Then I can dump my last two 775 quads.

yikes

PaulieG · Apr 25, 2009

Just 2 more days of 1mil plus, then we have our forum!! Let's push HARD guys!!

twilyth · Apr 25, 2009

dark2099 said:
Calling Bill Gates. Which would cost more, a one time fee for a huge crunching/setup, or the energy bill to run it?

I think it depends mainly on the cost of power. Some people get a kilowatt-hour for $.10 ( or less). I pay about $.18. Other people pay $.30 or more (some a lot more).

But if you go headless and caseless, loonym is right, the rigs aren't that expensive.

CyberDruid said:
I've gotten addicted to the .40...been running hundreds of rounds a week through it.

Hundreds?

Have you grown hair on your palms yet? Oh, wait, I think I have that confused with . . .

I'm kidding, but you must have calluses on your trigger finger. And all the recoil has to be painful eventually. And don't tell me there isn't any recoil. I'm not as stupid as i look. :eek:

I think you should sell your farm and get one of these. I think THEN you will be happy. Trust me on this.

CyberDruid · Apr 25, 2009

Nah I like it. I've been shooting for a long time.

And yes I'd like to shoot rounds that cost a hundred bucks each full auto...that would be very nice.

Flipping shells the size of red bull cans all over the deck...yeah buddy

loonym · Apr 25, 2009

I knew something was wrong. I'm sitting here starving and CD didn't serve up muh pie.

Kursah · Apr 25, 2009

I'm kind of curious, and I'll do some more searching around but I'm averaging about 4.3k PPD with my Q6600 and E8500 crunching away, and so far I like WCG, think I'll keep my CPU's on it permanently (folding/crunching-wise). I know 4.3k a day isn't much, but hey it's donating, just wanna make sure I'm hitting the right efficiency, this program doesn't seem to constantly load the CPU. It's very similar to the new NV WU's in F@H GPU2 with varying load, from hi to low, etc. Overall my temps are lower, no stability issues, just glad to be donating.

:toast:

twilyth · Apr 25, 2009

The initial default setting for timeslice is 60% of each core, but it is a poorly coded feature since it works for .6 seconds and then stops for .4 seconds. You won't see the full effect on temps unless you run at 100%.

With one Q6600 at 3ghz and one phenom X4 at slightly over stock, my RAC is under 3k ppd (or 21k ppd on WCG). So if those 4.3k points are boinc not WCG points, you must have oc'd the piss out of those machines.

Kursah · Apr 25, 2009

Not OC'd the piss out of, but 3.6Ghz on the Q, and 3.8Ghz on the e8500, very average OC's on both. So 4.3k is decent then? I dunno if I'm doing bionic or whatever, just letting WCG run at this point.

Here's a clip of my ppd from the "my grid" page:

- Avg. Points Per Hour of Run Time 172.07
- Avg. Points Per Calendar Day 4,306.25
- Avg. Points Per Result 574.17
- Avg. Results Per Calendar Day 7.50

Granted I've only ran this for a couple days on the quad and dual core together, seems to be doing good. I'll modify to run 100% and see how things go. The q6600 might get a bit toastier, but the e8500 keeps nice and cool.

msgclb · Apr 25, 2009

Kursah said:
Granted I've only ran this for a couple days on the quad and dual core together, seems to be doing good. I'll modify to run 100% and see how things go. The q6600 might get a bit toastier, but the e8500 keeps nice and cool.

Here's where the Top 10 pie chart comes from...

http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=team&proj=bwcg&team=22175

In a few more days you'll be up in techPowerUp!s top 20.

oily_17 · Apr 25, 2009

Well I woke early this morning....felt a disturbance in the force...and when I went to check my stats I noticed my new rig was off :shadedshu.

It was freezing within a couple of seconds of starting WCG, so I done some trouble shooting and seem to have nailed it down to one of the sticks of RAM.
The rig is -
Giga P35 -DQ6
Q6600 @ 3.3 1.328V
4GB Geil Black Dragon 800MHz

The temps are fine on the CPU under 50C at load, so I hope it is just the RAM.I have removed the bad stick and am testing again now.

I have read people saying this WCG is hard on RAM....so do you actively cool your RAM or run it at stock/underclocked.
Will have to get some more RAM today, as I have none spare, any suggestions on which to get ??

EDIT:The RAM has only about two weeks time on it...two days running WCG and it dies :nutkick:

POS RAM

twilyth · Apr 25, 2009

Kursah said:
Not OC'd the piss out of, but 3.6Ghz on the Q, and 3.8Ghz on the e8500, very average OC's on both. So 4.3k is decent then? I dunno if I'm doing bionic or whatever, just letting WCG run at this point.

Granted I've only ran this for a couple days on the quad and dual core together, seems to be doing good. I'll modify to run 100% and see how things go. The q6600 might get a bit toastier, but the e8500 keeps nice and cool.

I think those are pretty good oc's but then I'm happy with 3-3.2ghz.

The 4.3k is WCG points. They get those by taking BOINC points (BOINC is the agent you are running) and multiplying by 7. The reason for this is to maintain some kind of continuity with the previous UD agent that they used before adopting BOINC. Long story.

Anyway, 4.3k WCG ==> 600 BOINC ppd (600 x 7 = 4.2k). And with those machines at those clocks, something is very wrong. You've got almost 7 "cores" compared to the speeds (3.0 and 2.6) of my cores so your ppd should be pretty close to mine - which, as I said, are a little under 3k (3k BOINC x 7 = 21k WCG points). Running at 60% explains part of it. You probably don't run 24/7 though, so that might be the other part. :confused:

Edit: Here are your individual stats
Here are team stats - sorted by average credit (RAC - recent AC)

oily_17 · Apr 25, 2009

@ Kursah, twilyth

I have noticed it takes about a week, from when you start crunching, for the PPD to even out.I had alot of results pending validation for the first couple of days.Maybe this is what is throwing your results out as well.

twilyth · Apr 25, 2009

oily_17 said:
@ Kursah, twilyth

I have noticed it takes about a week, from when you start crunching, for the PPD to even out.I had alot of results pending validation for the first couple of days.Maybe this is what is throwing your results out as well.

excellent point. I keep forgetting about that since i've been on WCG for a couple years now. Thanks.

oily_17 · Apr 25, 2009

twilyth said:
excellent point. I keep forgetting about that since i've been on WCG for a couple years now. Thanks.

NP, at the start I thought something was wrong that my results were not showing up.

But it all evens out in the end

CyberDruid · Apr 25, 2009

Hey Oily I have some of my rigs running active cooling and some not. Depends on the RAM. My Tracers run cool to the touch, the Dominators get quite warm, the Black PI gets Warm, The GBlack Dragons stay cool to the thouch...it really seems to depend on the RAM used and how high it's volted.

I have yet to lose a stick of RAM to Crunching in the past two years.

DaMulta · Apr 25, 2009

oily_17 said:
EDIT:The RAM has only about two weeks time on it...two days running WCG and it dies POS RAM

Congrats TPU BOINC victim number 2!

Fitseries3 · Apr 25, 2009

oily_17 said:
Well I woke early this morning....felt a disturbance in the force...and when I went to check my stats I noticed my new rig was off :shadedshu.

It was freezing within a couple of seconds of starting WCG, so I done some trouble shooting and seem to have nailed it down to one of the sticks of RAM.
The rig is -
Giga P35 -DQ6
Q6600 @ 3.3 1.328V
4GB Geil Black Dragon 800MHz

The temps are fine on the CPU under 50C at load, so I hope it is just the RAM.I have removed the bad stick and am testing again now.

I have read people saying this WCG is hard on RAM....so do you actively cool your RAM or run it at stock/underclocked.
Will have to get some more RAM today, as I have none spare, any suggestions on which to get ??

EDIT:The RAM has only about two weeks time on it...two days running WCG and it dies POS RAM

im still running the generic crucials bare with no heatspreader and i havent killed them yet. been running them pretty far OCed too.

you prolly just had a bad set.

twilyth · Apr 25, 2009

I hate to say it, but don't rule out the DQ6 as the problem. I had that board and a DS4 - both P35 and had to ditch both of them. I've been using MSI boards since then - for both Intel and AMD - and I'm pretty happy with them.

h3llb3nd4 · Apr 25, 2009

my PC is back online!!
fillally killed the virus hiding in the system volume info folder

my generic RAM is running fine @ 1 Ghz for about 2months now...

oily_17 · Apr 25, 2009

Thanks guy's

Well I have it back up and running ~6 hours now ::fingers crossed::

I hope it was just a bad set of RAM I got.I emailed the seller about replacing it and bought some generic Kingston RAM to hold me over till it gets back.
Also stuck a fan next to the RAM to help.

PaulieG · Apr 25, 2009

Hey guys. I just added a Q6600 cruncher yesterday. However, it's not showing up under my device statistics. I know it's produced results already. Does it take awhile for a new rig to show up? I didn't notice this with the others.....

Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard	ASUS ROG Crosshair X670E Hero
Cooling	ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 A-RGB // X12 Phanteks D30-120 D-RGB Fans
Memory	G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo RGB Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MT/s CL30
Video Card(s)	ZOTAC Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 AMP Extreme AIRO
Storage	Samsung Pro 980 2TB NVMe (OS and Games) // WD Black 10TB HDD (Storage)
Display(s)	SAMSUNG 34-Inch Ultrawide 75Hz (Desk Games) // SAMSUNG 49-Inch Ultrawide 144Hz (Sim Racing Rig)
Case	Phanteks NV7
Power Supply	Seasonic Vertex GX-1200, 1200W 80+ Gold, ATX 3.0
Software	Windows 11 Pro

System Name	Everchanging
Processor	AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
Motherboard	ASUS ROG Crosshair Dark Hero
Cooling	Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer 2 420mm
Memory	2x16GB Corsair DDR4 3600 CL16
Video Card(s)	eVGA RTX 3090 Ti FTW3
Storage	Samsung 980 Pro 256GB, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
Display(s)	2xSamsung 28" 4k HDR 144Hz
Case	Fractal Meshify 2 XL
Audio Device(s)	fiio K9 to Hifiman Sundara's via 4.4mm balanced cable
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime TX 850w
Mouse	Corsair Harpoon Wireless RGB
Keyboard	Corsair K70 RGB PRO
Software	Windows 11 x64

System Name	errrr....
Processor	w3520
Motherboard	dfi lp-ut x58
Cooling	true, panaflo push/pull
Memory	6gb ddr3 12800 gskill
Video Card(s)	2x 9800gt sli
Storage	raptor raid0, seagate 750
Display(s)	sceptre 24"
Case	xclio windtunnel advanced
Audio Device(s)	stock dfi
Power Supply	xclio truepower 1000w
Software	xp64 sp2

System Name	errrr....
Processor	w3520
Motherboard	dfi lp-ut x58
Cooling	true, panaflo push/pull
Memory	6gb ddr3 12800 gskill
Video Card(s)	2x 9800gt sli
Storage	raptor raid0, seagate 750
Display(s)	sceptre 24"
Case	xclio windtunnel advanced
Audio Device(s)	stock dfi
Power Supply	xclio truepower 1000w
Software	xp64 sp2

Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard	ASUS ROG Crosshair X670E Hero
Cooling	ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 A-RGB // X12 Phanteks D30-120 D-RGB Fans
Memory	G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo RGB Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MT/s CL30
Video Card(s)	ZOTAC Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 AMP Extreme AIRO
Storage	Samsung Pro 980 2TB NVMe (OS and Games) // WD Black 10TB HDD (Storage)
Display(s)	SAMSUNG 34-Inch Ultrawide 75Hz (Desk Games) // SAMSUNG 49-Inch Ultrawide 144Hz (Sim Racing Rig)
Case	Phanteks NV7
Power Supply	Seasonic Vertex GX-1200, 1200W 80+ Gold, ATX 3.0
Software	Windows 11 Pro

Processor	5800x(2)/5700g/5600x/5600g/2700x/1700x/1700
Motherboard	MSI B550 Carbon (2)/ MSI z490 Unify/Asus Strix B550-F/MSI B450 Tomahawk (3)
Cooling	EK AIO 360 (2)/EK AIO 240, Arctic Cooling Freezer II 280/EVGA CLC 280/Noctua D15/Cryorig M9(2)
Memory	32 GB Ballistix Elite/32 GB TridentZ/16GB Mushkin Redline Black/16 GB Dominator
Video Card(s)	Asus Strix RTX3060/EVGA 970(2)/Asus 750 ti/Old Quadros
Storage	Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe 500GB/WD Black M.2 NVMe 500GB/Adata 500gb NVMe
Display(s)	Acer 1080p 22"/ (3) Samsung 22" 1080p
Case	(2) Lian Li Lancool II Mesh/Corsair 4000D /Phanteks Eclipse 500a/Be Quiet Pure Base 500/Bones of HAF
Power Supply	EVGA Supernova 850G(2)/EVGA Supernova GT 650w/Phantek Amps 750w/Seasonic Focus 750w
Mouse	Generic Black wireless (5)
Keyboard	Generic Black wireless (5)
Software	Win 10/Ubuntu

System Name	Shop Dog
Processor	E8400
Motherboard	Asus Blitz Formula SE
Cooling	d-Tek FuZion
Memory	2 x 2GB DDR2 800 G Skill
Video Card(s)	EVGA 7900 GTX
Storage	150GB VelociRaptor
Display(s)	Acer 21.5 1080p LED Back Lit Monitor
Case	Working on it
Audio Device(s)	PCI SoundMax
Power Supply	Silverstone 750 Modular
Software	XP Pro SP2
Benchmark Scores	Super Pi 11.56s 1M at 4050mhz

System Name	Kursah's Gaming Rig 2018 (2022 Upgrade) - Ryzen+ Edition \| Gaming Laptop (Lenovo Legion 5i Pro 2022)
Processor	R7 5800X @ Stock \| i7 12700H @ Stock
Motherboard	Asus ROG Strix X370-F Gaming BIOS 6203\| Legion 5i Pro NM-E231
Cooling	Noctua NH-U14S Push-Pull + NT-H1 \| Stock Cooling
Memory	TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32GB (2x16) DDR4 4000 @ 3600 18-20-20-42 1.35v \| 32GB DDR5 4800 (2x16)
Video Card(s)	Palit GeForce RTX 4070 JetStream 12GB \| CPU-based Intel Iris XE + RTX 3070 8GB 150W
Storage	4TB SP UD90 NVME, 960GB SATA SSD, 2TB HDD \| 1TB Samsung OEM NVME SSD + 4TB Crucial P3 Plus NVME SSD
Display(s)	Acer 28" 4K VG280K x2 \| 16" 2560x1600 built-in
Case	Corsair 600C - Stock Fans on Low \| Stock Metal/Plastic
Audio Device(s)	Aune T1 mk1 > AKG K553 Pro + JVC HA-RX 700 (Equalizer APO + PeaceUI) \| Bluetooth Earbuds (BX29)
Power Supply	EVGA 750G2 Modular + APC Back-UPS Pro 1500 \| 300W OEM (heavy use) or Lenovo Legion C135W GAN (light)
Mouse	Logitech G502 \| Logitech M330
Keyboard	HyperX Alloy Core RGB \| Built in Keyboard (Lenovo laptop KB FTW)
Software	Windows 11 Pro x64 \| Windows 11 Home x64

System Name	My Classified System
Processor	Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge
Motherboard	ASUS P8Z77-V
Cooling	Koolance CPU-380I, XSPC RX360, XSPC Dual 5.25" Bay Reservoir with Single Laing DDC
Memory	G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 2133
Video Card(s)	EVGA 04G-P4-3988-KR GeForce GTX 980 Classified with EK-FC980 GTX Classy Waterblock
Storage	Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAKS 320GB
Display(s)	Acer S220HQLAbd Black 21.5" 5ms LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor
Case	NZXT SWITCH 810 Black
Audio Device(s)	Onboard HD Audio
Power Supply	Thermaltake - 850-Watt TR2 RX Power Supply
Mouse	Black Microsoft Wheel Optical USB Mouse
Keyboard	Black Microsoft USB Keyboard 2000
Software	Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64 Bit

Processor	Q9550 @3.8
Motherboard	Asus Maximus Extreme
Cooling	Custom water cooling
Memory	4GB Patriot Viper DDR3 1600MHz
Video Card(s)	2x HD4870 512MB
Storage	2x 500GB
Display(s)	3x LG L226WTQ 22" Widescreen LCD
Case	Modded TJ07
Audio Device(s)	On board
Power Supply	PC P&C Silencer 750
Software	Windows 7 Ultimate

System Name	Work in progress
Processor	AMD 955---4Ghz
Motherboard	MSi GD70
Cooling	OcZ Phase/water
Memory	Crucial2GB kit (1GBx2), Ballistix 240-pin DIMM, DDR3 PC3-16000
Video Card(s)	CrossfireX 2 X HD 4890 1GB OCed to 1000Mhz
Storage	SSD 64GB
Display(s)	Envision 24'' 1920x1200
Case	Using the desk ATM
Audio Device(s)	Sucky onboard for now :(
Power Supply	1000W TruePower Quattro

System Name	My mobo is Laughing at me
Processor	E7400
Motherboard	P5KPL-E Bios flashed to 0601 (Piece of poo!!)
Cooling	Thermalright Ultra 120a
Memory	GENERIC 2 GB DDR2 800
Video Card(s)	NONE!! Beat that!!
Storage	500GB SAMSUNG SATAII, 250GB SAMSUNG SATAII and o'l crappy 4gb maxtor
Display(s)	ACER X223W Q
Case	AEROCOOL ZERODEGREE (planning to mod)
Audio Device(s)	REALTEK ONBOARD
Power Supply	GIGABYTE 460W
Software	Win 7 x86 build 7022
Benchmark Scores	Super Pi 1m 17.000 :(

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