The point i'm trying to put across is that, without competition, those that sell a product can set it's price freely but, when faced with competition, they are forced to make a competitive price.
Yeah, sadly there is no competition whatsoever.
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The point i'm trying to put across is that, without competition, those that sell a product can set it's price freely but, when faced with competition, they are forced to make a competitive price.
Processor | Athlon 64 X2 3800+ @ 2.6GHz |
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Motherboard | DFI LP SLI-DR Expert |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer Pro 64 |
Memory | 2GB XMS DDR400 @ DDR500 CL3 |
Video Card(s) | 7900GT |
Storage | 320GB WD + 160GB WD |
Display(s) | 22" toshiba 720p HDTV |
Case | Nope |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard |
Power Supply | Corsair 400watt |
Software | XP Pro |
Processor | R9 5800x3d | R7 3900X | 4800H | 2x Xeon gold 6142 |
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Motherboard | Asrock X570M | AB350M Pro 4 | Asus Tuf A15 |
Cooling | Air | Air | duh laptop |
Memory | 64gb G.skill SniperX @3600 CL16 | 128gb | 32GB | 192gb |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4080 |Quadro P5000 | RTX2060M |
Storage | Many drives |
Display(s) | AW3423dwf. |
Case | Jonsbo D41 |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x |
Mouse | g502 Lightspeed |
Keyboard | G913 tkl |
Software | win11, proxmox |
Processor | Intel Core i9 11900KF @ -075mV PL max @225w |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG Z490 TOMAHAWK |
Cooling | DeepCool LS520SE Liquid + 3 Phanteks 140mm case fans |
Memory | 32GB (4 x 8GB SR) Patriot Viper Steel Bdie @ 3600Mhz CL14 1.45v Gear 1 |
Video Card(s) | Asus Dual RTX 4070 OC + 8% PL |
Storage | WD Blue SN550 1TB M.2 NVME//Crucial MX500 500GB SSD (OS) |
Display(s) | AOC Q2781PQ 27 inch Ultra Slim 2560 x 1440 IPS |
Case | Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Windowed - Gunmetal |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard Realtek ALC1200/SPDIF to Sony AVR @ 5.1 |
Power Supply | Seasonic CORE GM650w Gold Semi modular |
Software | Win 11 Home x64 |
Why all AMD fans go with that bs all the time? You know what? F*** that shit. This is the same bs I've been reading over and over ever since core 2 duo came out. What a crap. The truth is the other way around - if you want to have the newest, fastest and with big overclock potential cpu you just pay the big price, yeah, that's what high end means ffs. Right now Intel is like 1 light year ahead of AMD with Nehalem whatever you like it or not. It's a fact. Yet i7 920 that goes 3.8/4.0 with almost every x58 board is like what? $280.. news flash I bought my E4300 when it came out for $240, that was 2 years ago. So you know what? F*** off with that "if it wasn't for amd we have to pay $3000 for a cpu bla bla bla" crap. that's some bs, not to mention amd overprice their cpu's, PII 940 when it came out was ~$260 and clock-to-clock was weaker then Q6600 ffs.. amd is dead, it has been dead ever since c2d hit the market, deal with it.. yet you dont have to pay $3000 for i7 920..
System Name | Aquarium |
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Processor | Ryzen 9 7950x |
Motherboard | ROG Strix X670-E |
Cooling | Lian Li Galahead 360 AIO |
Memory | 2x16gb Flare X5 Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5-6000 PC5-48000 |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 3060 |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850X Black NVMe, 500GB Samsung 970 NVMe |
Display(s) | Gigabyte 32" IPS 144Hz |
Case | Hyte Y60 |
Power Supply | Corsair RMx 850 |
Software | Win 11 Pro/ PopOS! |
"real men use real cores"
System Name | All the cores |
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Processor | 2990WX |
Motherboard | Asrock X399M |
Cooling | CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL |
Memory | 4x16GB G.Skill 3600 |
Video Card(s) | (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's |
Storage | 2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB |
Display(s) | Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz |
Case | Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal |
Audio Device(s) | Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime 1200w |
Mouse | Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller |
Keyboard | Keychron K8 |
Software | W10P |
Why all AMD fans go with that bs all the time? You know what? F*** that shit. This is the same bs I've been reading over and over ever since core 2 duo came out. What a crap. The truth is the other way around - if you want to have the newest, fastest and with big overclock potential cpu you just pay the big price, yeah, that's what high end means ffs. Right now Intel is like 1 light year ahead of AMD with Nehalem whatever you like it or not. It's a fact. Yet i7 920 that goes 3.8/4.0 with almost every x58 board is like what? $280.. news flash I bought my E4300 when it came out for $240, that was 2 years ago. So you know what? F*** off with that "if it wasn't for amd we have to pay $3000 for a cpu bla bla bla" crap. that's some bs, not to mention amd overprice their cpu's, PII 940 when it came out was ~$260 and clock-to-clock was weaker then Q6600 ffs.. amd is dead, it has been dead ever since c2d hit the market, deal with it.. yet you dont have to pay $3000 for i7 920..
System Name | main prick |
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Processor | AMD phenom II 1090T. |
Motherboard | Asus M3A79-t-deluxe |
Cooling | MUGEN 2 wtih TX3 cool and quite on. temps dont' read right. |
Memory | GEIL evo one ram 2x2gbs |
Video Card(s) | 1 gigabyte cutom cooler 5870 I TX3 it and dropped 20C off load O_O |
Storage | seagate barracuda 250gbs |
Display(s) | spetre 1920 x1200 |
Case | apevia telstar |
Audio Device(s) | Tv tuner ati/msi 650 pro theater |
Power Supply | silver stone 1200 watts |
Software | OS windows vista ultimate 64 bit |
Benchmark Scores | I burnt out my dual channel on my board scores are lower. :( |
intel fanboy find me the benchmarks to back this up
System Name | Barb's Domain |
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Processor | i9 10850k 5.1GHz all cores |
Motherboard | MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI |
Cooling | Deep Cool Assassin III |
Memory | 2*16gig Corsair LPX DDR4 3200 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4080 FE |
Storage | 500gb Samsung 980 Pro M2 SSD, 500GB WD Blue SATA SSD, 2TB Seagate Hybrid SSHD |
Display(s) | Dell - S3222DGM 32" 2k Curved/ASUS VP28UQG 28" 4K (ran at 2k), Sanyo 75" 4k TV |
Case | SilverStone Fortress FT04 |
Audio Device(s) | Bose Companion II speakers, Corsair - HS70 PRO headphones |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x (2021) |
Mouse | Logitech G502 |
Keyboard | Logitech Orion Spectrum G910 |
VR HMD | Oculus Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64 bit |
Benchmark Scores | https://www.3dmark.com/spy/34962882 |
not to mention amd overprice their cpu's, PII 940 when it came out was ~$260 and clock-to-clock was weaker then Q6600
System Name | Aquarium |
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Processor | Ryzen 9 7950x |
Motherboard | ROG Strix X670-E |
Cooling | Lian Li Galahead 360 AIO |
Memory | 2x16gb Flare X5 Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5-6000 PC5-48000 |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 3060 |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850X Black NVMe, 500GB Samsung 970 NVMe |
Display(s) | Gigabyte 32" IPS 144Hz |
Case | Hyte Y60 |
Power Supply | Corsair RMx 850 |
Software | Win 11 Pro/ PopOS! |
1st time I heard that myself. Some benchmarks would be nice. It's my understanding the Phenom 9850 and 9950 matched the q6600 and the PII match the q9550 and q9650
Processor | Intel Core i7 10850K@5.2GHz |
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Motherboard | AsRock Z470 Taichi |
Cooling | Corsair H115i Pro w/ Noctua NF-A14 Fans |
Memory | 32GB DDR4-3600 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 2070 Super |
Storage | 500GB SX8200 Pro + 8TB with 1TB SSD Cache |
Display(s) | Acer Nitro VG280K 4K 28" |
Case | Fractal Design Define S |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard is good enough for me |
Power Supply | eVGA SuperNOVA 1000w G3 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro x64 |
"real men use real cores"
Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | ASUS TUF x670e |
Cooling | EK AIO 360. Phantek T30 fans. |
Memory | 32GB G.Skill 6000Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 4090 |
Storage | WD m.2 |
Display(s) | LG C2 Evo OLED 42" |
Case | Lian Li PC 011 Dynamic Evo |
Audio Device(s) | Topping E70 DAC, SMSL SP200 Headphone Amp. |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro Ti PRO 1000W |
Mouse | Razer Basilisk V3 Pro |
Keyboard | Tester84 |
Software | Windows 11 |
System Name | Barb's Domain |
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Processor | i9 10850k 5.1GHz all cores |
Motherboard | MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI |
Cooling | Deep Cool Assassin III |
Memory | 2*16gig Corsair LPX DDR4 3200 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4080 FE |
Storage | 500gb Samsung 980 Pro M2 SSD, 500GB WD Blue SATA SSD, 2TB Seagate Hybrid SSHD |
Display(s) | Dell - S3222DGM 32" 2k Curved/ASUS VP28UQG 28" 4K (ran at 2k), Sanyo 75" 4k TV |
Case | SilverStone Fortress FT04 |
Audio Device(s) | Bose Companion II speakers, Corsair - HS70 PRO headphones |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x (2021) |
Mouse | Logitech G502 |
Keyboard | Logitech Orion Spectrum G910 |
VR HMD | Oculus Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64 bit |
Benchmark Scores | https://www.3dmark.com/spy/34962882 |
AMD is posting flame-bait.![]()
Processor | Intel Core i9 11900KF @ -075mV PL max @225w |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG Z490 TOMAHAWK |
Cooling | DeepCool LS520SE Liquid + 3 Phanteks 140mm case fans |
Memory | 32GB (4 x 8GB SR) Patriot Viper Steel Bdie @ 3600Mhz CL14 1.45v Gear 1 |
Video Card(s) | Asus Dual RTX 4070 OC + 8% PL |
Storage | WD Blue SN550 1TB M.2 NVME//Crucial MX500 500GB SSD (OS) |
Display(s) | AOC Q2781PQ 27 inch Ultra Slim 2560 x 1440 IPS |
Case | Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Windowed - Gunmetal |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard Realtek ALC1200/SPDIF to Sony AVR @ 5.1 |
Power Supply | Seasonic CORE GM650w Gold Semi modular |
Software | Win 11 Home x64 |
1st time I heard that myself. Some benchmarks would be nice. It's my understanding the Phenom 9850 and 9950 matched the q6600 and the PII match the q9550 and q9650
System Name | Barb's Domain |
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Processor | i9 10850k 5.1GHz all cores |
Motherboard | MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI |
Cooling | Deep Cool Assassin III |
Memory | 2*16gig Corsair LPX DDR4 3200 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4080 FE |
Storage | 500gb Samsung 980 Pro M2 SSD, 500GB WD Blue SATA SSD, 2TB Seagate Hybrid SSHD |
Display(s) | Dell - S3222DGM 32" 2k Curved/ASUS VP28UQG 28" 4K (ran at 2k), Sanyo 75" 4k TV |
Case | SilverStone Fortress FT04 |
Audio Device(s) | Bose Companion II speakers, Corsair - HS70 PRO headphones |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x (2021) |
Mouse | Logitech G502 |
Keyboard | Logitech Orion Spectrum G910 |
VR HMD | Oculus Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64 bit |
Benchmark Scores | https://www.3dmark.com/spy/34962882 |
Take a look at both the performance and overclocking sections here: ........
http://www.custompc.co.uk/reviews/605368/amd-phenom-ii-x4-940-black-edition.html
System Name | Barb's Domain |
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Processor | i9 10850k 5.1GHz all cores |
Motherboard | MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI |
Cooling | Deep Cool Assassin III |
Memory | 2*16gig Corsair LPX DDR4 3200 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4080 FE |
Storage | 500gb Samsung 980 Pro M2 SSD, 500GB WD Blue SATA SSD, 2TB Seagate Hybrid SSHD |
Display(s) | Dell - S3222DGM 32" 2k Curved/ASUS VP28UQG 28" 4K (ran at 2k), Sanyo 75" 4k TV |
Case | SilverStone Fortress FT04 |
Audio Device(s) | Bose Companion II speakers, Corsair - HS70 PRO headphones |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x (2021) |
Mouse | Logitech G502 |
Keyboard | Logitech Orion Spectrum G910 |
VR HMD | Oculus Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64 bit |
Benchmark Scores | https://www.3dmark.com/spy/34962882 |
Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | ASUS TUF x670e |
Cooling | EK AIO 360. Phantek T30 fans. |
Memory | 32GB G.Skill 6000Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 4090 |
Storage | WD m.2 |
Display(s) | LG C2 Evo OLED 42" |
Case | Lian Li PC 011 Dynamic Evo |
Audio Device(s) | Topping E70 DAC, SMSL SP200 Headphone Amp. |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro Ti PRO 1000W |
Mouse | Razer Basilisk V3 Pro |
Keyboard | Tester84 |
Software | Windows 11 |
Oh, and AMD fell way behind not because Phenom sucked--just AMD's/IBM's 65nm process was absolutely hideous. People kept buying 90nm Windsor processors because 65nm Brisbanes (remember the introduction of .5 multipliers?) were coughing and choking to keep up with the Windsors, let alone a Core 2. I'm glad they put that bad chapter behind them. That was depressing.
System Name | ICE-QUAD // ICE-CRUNCH |
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Processor | Q6600 // 2x Xeon 5472 |
Memory | 2GB DDR // 8GB FB-DIMM |
Video Card(s) | HD3850-AGP // FireGL 3400 |
Display(s) | 2 x Samsung 204Ts = 3200x1200 |
Audio Device(s) | Audigy 2 |
Software | Windows Server 2003 R2 as a Workstation now migrated to W10 with regrets. |
intel fanboy find me the benchmarks to back this up
Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | ASUS TUF x670e |
Cooling | EK AIO 360. Phantek T30 fans. |
Memory | 32GB G.Skill 6000Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 4090 |
Storage | WD m.2 |
Display(s) | LG C2 Evo OLED 42" |
Case | Lian Li PC 011 Dynamic Evo |
Audio Device(s) | Topping E70 DAC, SMSL SP200 Headphone Amp. |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro Ti PRO 1000W |
Mouse | Razer Basilisk V3 Pro |
Keyboard | Tester84 |
Software | Windows 11 |
^ please dont forget a few stock splits along the road! You cant just compare prices like that.
System Name | The ClusterF**k |
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Processor | 980X @ 4Ghz |
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 BIOS F12 |
Cooling | MCR-320, DDC-1 pump w/Bitspower res top (1/2" fittings), Koolance CPU-360 |
Memory | 3x2GB Mushkin Redlines 1600Mhz 6-8-6-24 1T |
Video Card(s) | Evga GTX 580 |
Storage | Corsair Neutron GTX 240GB, 2xSeagate 320GB RAID0; 2xSeagate 3TB; 2xSamsung 2TB; Samsung 1.5TB |
Display(s) | HP LP2475w 24" 1920x1200 IPS |
Case | Technofront Bench Station |
Audio Device(s) | Auzentech X-Fi Forte into Onkyo SR606 and Polk TSi200's + RM6750 |
Power Supply | ENERMAX Galaxy EVO EGX1250EWT 1250W |
Software | Win7 Ultimate N x64, OSX 10.8.4 |
FB-DIMMs have a theoretical bandwidth in that range. They have never achieved that throughput tho. FB-DIMMS are a rather large bottleneck in highly memory intensive apps.Bandwidth? FB-DIMM can achieve some 12,000+ MB/s bandwidth using DDR2-553. AMD only has the advantage in terms of memory latency which will be mostly erased as more Nehalem-based processors hit the market.
I have to agree with this, although Phenom 1 did, in fact, suck. I tried my hand at the Brisbane chips, only to go back to the Windsors, as the F3 Windsors actually clocked better, and performed better clock for clock, especially the 2x1MB Windsors.Oh, and AMD fell way behind not because Phenom sucked--just AMD's/IBM's 65nm process was absolutely hideous. People kept buying 90nm Windsor processors because 65nm Brisbanes (remember the introduction of .5 multipliers?) were coughing and choking to keep up with the Windsors, let alone a Core 2. I'm glad they put that bad chapter behind them. That was depressing.
System Name | All the cores |
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Processor | 2990WX |
Motherboard | Asrock X399M |
Cooling | CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL |
Memory | 4x16GB G.Skill 3600 |
Video Card(s) | (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's |
Storage | 2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB |
Display(s) | Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz |
Case | Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal |
Audio Device(s) | Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime 1200w |
Mouse | Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller |
Keyboard | Keychron K8 |
Software | W10P |
3dmark06
Q6600 @ 3.59GHz - 5574 CPU SCORE
[url]http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9940/3dm0615k.th.jpg[/URL]
Phenom 2 @ 3.8GHz - 4921 CPU SCORE
http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-phenom-ii-x4-920-and-940-review-test/14
WinRAR
Q6600 @ 3.71GHz - 2226 kb/s
[url]http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5666/rarq66003710.th.jpg[/URL]
Phenom 2 @ 3.8GHz - 1775 kb/s
http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-phenom-ii-x4-920-and-940-review-test/15
SuperPI - 1M
Q6600 @ 3.73GHz - 13.734s
[url]http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2996/76775007.th.jpg[/URL]
Phenom 2 @ 3.7GHz - 19.407s
http://news.ati-forum.de/index.php/...st-amd-phenom-ii-x4-940-black-edition?start=7
That's just for start.. you want more?
System Name | Rusky |
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Processor | Intel Core i7 D0 3.8Ghz |
Motherboard | Asus P6T |
Cooling | Thermaltake Dark Knight |
Memory | 12GB Patriot Viper's 1866mhz 9-9-9-24 |
Video Card(s) | GTX470 1280MB |
Storage | OCZ Summit 60GB + Samsung 1TB + Samsung 2TB |
Display(s) | Sharp Aquos L32X20E 1920 x 1080 |
Case | Silverstone Raven RV01 |
Power Supply | Corsair 650 Watt |
Software | Windows 7 x64 |
Benchmark Scores | 3DMark06 - 18064 http://img.techpowerup.org/090720/Capture002.jpg |
actually i would like you to go to the futuremark page and check were phenom II and the Q6600 fall onto the top 10 list.
no to actually furthur this super pi has always been a intel thing hands down. 3d06 is a bullshit test to different rigs could be as little as a driver change
actually i would like you to go to the futuremark page and check were phenom II and the Q6600 fall onto the top 10 list.
no to actually furthur this super pi has always been a intel thing hands down. 3d06 is a bullshit test to different rigs could be as little as a driver change