AMD Radeon HD 4770

[eidairaman1]

well newtekie, you cant please everyone, so this is why ATI did this. TBH Im happy they went with the dual slot as its a Combo Design from the 3800 and the 2900/4870 (Blower Type Fan)

And it just proves these cards are not meant for cube cases anyway, unless if 3rd parties release single slot cards.

 

[btarunr]

It is less likely that you will be seeing cards with this cooler in the market (at the $100 point, at least).

The cheaper reference cooler that happens to be dual-slot is cheaper in comparison to the single slot cooler you're expecting. To make a single-slot cooler, the kind HD 2600/3850/4830/4850/8800GT came with, you need to have a high-speed fan, aluminum air-canals, parts of the block with copper infused. The present market-grade cooler is just a chunk of metal with a fan in the middle, and a piece of plastic on top.

 

[Scrizz]

ooo very nice card

 

[W1zzard]

Why have two crossfire fingers on the card then? Wouldn't only one be needed for crossfire between two cards?

that's exactly why I asked AMD about CF supoprt

Seriosuly what a shit review?

''Negative points''

* High idle power consumption

* No architectural improvements
* Could be quieter
* Cooler on our sample does not represent the shipping product
* No support for CUDA / PhysX

No support for CUDA? / PhysX , oh come on! what you'd expect? It's ATi not nVidia and PhysX is nVidia only , also the list with physx support is so small it's even not important anymore . It's like when reviewing a nVidia card you say: It doesn't support AVIVO. Geez...

* Dual slot cooler

When the HD4850 was released everybody was complaining about how hot the card was and that it would be bad for the card to get that warm. Now AMD listened to their customers and they placed a bigger cooler and now you're complaining about the size?

Again a shit negative point

Thanks for your feedback. As an educated reader you are certainly able to read the full review and then come to your own conclusions. Look at what I wrote, take this as inspiration, you are then free to disagree with it based on your personal preferences and requirements - all the data is there. Based on the outcome of your own personal reasoning you should then decide if you want to spend the money for the card reviewed here, another card, a hooker, some coke or anything else.

Why do you base "shit review" on two bullet points that you don't agree with?

edit: "Now AMD listened to their customers". As you have certainly read in my review the cards on retailer shelves will NOT have the same cooler as our review sample because ALL AIBs went for the cheaper cooler.

 

[WarEagleAU]

Looks pretty good and Im still out on the cooler. Like the scaling though. Its something beefy for gaming but quiet enough perhaps for an HTPC.

I wouldnt knock it for not using CUDA, but they have AMD Fusion going and some other stuff, lets see what plays out with that.

 

[W1zzard]

Looks pretty good and Im still out on the cooler. Like the scaling though. Its something beefy for gaming but quiet enough perhaps for an HTPC.

I wouldnt knock it for not using CUDA, but they have AMD Fusion going and some other stuff, lets see what plays out with that.

too noisy for a htpc. get a passive card for that

personally i dont see much of a point in the current cuda application universe. but nvidia is pushing it aggressively and it is a feature that onr party has and the other don't. if you take a look at the conclusion, i specifically mentioned the numbers from our current poll there.

 

[OnBoard]

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/HD_4770/images/back.jpg

That's some serious engineering there on the PCB. Weird seeing a low end card with so filled in components, almost looks like 4870x2.

Nippy 40nm though, except that idle power consumption higher than my GTX280 =)

 

[mdm-adph]

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/HD_4770/images/back.jpg

That's some serious engineering there on the PCB. Weird seeing a low end card with so filled in components, almost looks like 4870x2.

Nippy 40nm though, except that idle power consumption higher than my GTX280 =)

You're free to step the memory down yourself when you're not running a 3d app.

 

[DaMulta]

So if the card only works in 2 card CF. Can you use the card in say a 4870 + 4870 + 4770, or X2 4870 + 4770?

Kind of funny that you can run 4 4830 cards together, but not with the 4770 cards. I bet they must scream in Quad, and at 400 dollars it would more than likely be a very good buy.

 

[OnBoard]

You're free to step the memory down yourself when you're not running a 3d app.

Yep, but you can't go low enough. Like with my card only to 830MHz and 2D clocks go to 100MHz. (well currently I use more power on idle, as 2D doesn't work with 2 displays plugged in).

Kind of funny that you can run 4 4830 cards together, but not with the 4770 cards. I bet they must scream in Quad, and at 400 dollars it would more than likely be a very good buy.

Maybe it's on purpose, so this card doesn't also kill HD4870x2 sales? If 2 of them are faster than HD4890, surely 4 would beat the monster.

 

[OnBoard]

W1zzard: why are there blue felt tip pen marks on every capasitor on ATI cards? That has bothered me for ages

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/HD_4770/images/front.jpg

 

[W1zzard]

quality control marked as ok

 

[OnBoard]

quality control marked as ok

That what I though about, but thinking of some poor men/women marking every reference design cards capacitors for the past few years seemed strange

Wonder if you get a card for free, if you find a capacitor without a mark in it

 

[newtekie1]

well newtekie, you cant please everyone, so this is why ATI did this. TBH Im happy they went with the dual slot as its a Combo Design from the 3800 and the 2900/4870 (Blower Type Fan)

And it just proves these cards are not meant for cube cases anyway, unless if 3rd parties release single slot cards.

I'm not one of those people that frown on dual-slot cards, I just explained why it is marked as a disadvantage.

Personally, I prefer a dual slot HSF as long as it vents out of the case, and I would have loved the blower type fan included in this review sample. However, I won't buy the card with the actual reference fan.

that's exactly why I asked AMD about CF supoprt

Perhaps it is a driver support thing that they just haven't sorted yet? I don't see how it could be a PCB issue, though doesn't the crossfire logic reside on the GPU Core, is it possible the logic has been downgraded on RV740 to only allow 2 cards?

 

[W1zzard]

again, amd said "By design, the 4770 is limited to two cards in CrossFireX".

 

[AlexCuria]

Palit already has a HD 4850 with GDDR5.

Didn't know that Palit hat a GDDR5 version of the HD4850. Their website doesn't show it either. The HD4850 I do know that has GDDR5 is the Gainward HD4850 Golden Sample "Goes Like Hell". I'm looking desperately for a review but nothing. :shadedshu

ATI already has something called the HD4870.
End of discussion.

Put 2x 4770 in Xfire. Benefits? Almost same price, better performance, newer technology, ... Consumer can decide when to Xfire.

Regarding the cooler, well I agree it doesn't look too good but I actually don't care too much about the looks but rather about the performace and the main reason I didn't purchase yesterday the 4770 (was tempted) is that I'm waiting for overclocked cards with the full warranty. This way I have even more performance under warranty. I'd be interested in seeing versions with better coolers and all the capacitators like the reference design of ATI. I've read in a german review that the original reference design PCB had all the capacitators fitted for more or better power/voltage regulation.

http://www.tweakpc.de/hardware/tests/grafikkarten/ati_radeon_hd_4770/i/radeon_hd_4770_5E.jpg

The price of the XFX card is 98 Euros in Spain. MIR and all those nice discounts don't exist in Spain so that's the final price. In comparison the cheapest price i've found for a HD4850 is about 125 Euros. I don't know if the price of the 4770 will get cheaper or more expensive after the initial launch so I'm like looking at the market reaction every day several times.

 

[btarunr]

Didn't know that Palit hat a GDDR5 version of the HD4850. Their website doesn't show it either. The HD4850 I do know that has GDDR5 is the Gainward HD4850 Golden Sample "Goes Like Hell". I'm looking desperately for a review but nothing. :shadedshu

http://www.techpowerup.com/?86305

Gainward Golden Sample "Goes Like Hell" is aka Palit SONIC SE.

 

[AlexCuria]

http://www.techpowerup.com/?86305

Gainward Golden Sample "Goes Like Hell" is aka Palit SONIC SE.

Are you sure Gainward is aka as Palit? I mean, I'm by no ways trying to be smarter but just asking.

The Gainward card I'm speaking about has a totally different cooler design.
See for yourself.

http://www.techpowerup.com/?88442

In any case I would be happy to find a review with the HD4850 and GDDR5 memory just to see how much of a difference the GDDR5 would make compared to GDDR3.

 

[btarunr]

Are you sure Gainward is aka as Palit? I mean, I'm by no ways trying to be smarter but just asking.

The Gainward card I'm speaking about has a totally different cooler design.
See for yourself.

http://www.techpowerup.com/?88442

In any case I would be happy to find a review with the HD4850 and GDDR5 memory just to see how much of a difference the GDDR5 would make compared to GDDR3.

Maybe that's a different design then, but that's the Palit card I'm referring to when I say HD 4850 and GDDR5.

 

[totalz]

AMD and ATI are freely allowed to use CUDA but they refuse to. Hence its a negative point.

Any article on the topic?

I like the reviewed version of 4770, at least there is a ram heatsink

 

[DrPepper]

^^
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2324555,00.asp

 

[mdm-adph]

^^
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2324555,00.asp

That's ridiculous. "Pennies on the GPU" my ass. Nvidia would charge ATI an exorbitant fee. If not initially, then later on -- that's how the business world works.

 

[DrPepper]

idk about that I just used it because it showed ati refused to use cuda.

 

[newtekie1]

That's ridiculous. "Pennies on the GPU" my ass. Nvidia would charge ATI an exorbitant fee. If not initially, then later on -- that's how the business world works.

I doubt it, nVidia has already said they know the only way the technology will truly catch on is for both nVidia and ATi cards to support it. So it would be benfitial for nVidia to give ATi a very good deal on the licensing.

 

[btarunr]

I doubt it, nVidia has already said they know the only way the technology will truly catch on is for both nVidia and ATi cards to support it. So it would be benfitial for nVidia to give ATi a very good deal on the licensing.

The deal will turn sour the moment CUDA becomes a standard powerful enough that NVIDIA can use it as a scuff around AMD's neck. (what AMD feels)