X-Fi functionality on any Realtek HDA Codec

mudkip · May 4, 2009

Ketxx could you tell me how to use RMAA?

Then I can do a before-after test

Also I uploaded the X-fi dribers to my rapidshare.

Might be handy for some people.

Maby you could put it in your post?

http://rapidshare.com/files/228943665/Realtek_Vista_X-Fi_mod_R2.21.7z

nafets · May 4, 2009

I'll be testing out these modded X-FI Realtek 2.21 drivers and compare them with the stock Realtek 2.21 drivers (which I'm currently using).

Very interesting stuff!

silkstone · May 6, 2009

Ì just got a SB Audigy value and used the modded drivers (not ketts) to compare. Here are the results. I don;t know if i've done something wrong, but it looks like i may have just thrown $34 down the drain.

SB Audigy Value>DK's Drivers>Ket's Driver

One plus point of my new card is that Crystallizer works, but then a downside is that there is no connector re-tasking so i have to go to the back of my computer every time i want to change from headphones to speakers

Mussels · May 7, 2009

well i know from dual booting mine into 7 (didnt install the modded drivers) that my bass has totally disappeared.

KainXS · May 8, 2009

silkstone said:
Ì just got a SB Audigy value and used the modded drivers (not ketts) to compare. Here are the results. I don;t know if i've done something wrong, but it looks like i may have just thrown $34 down the drain.
http://img.techpowerup.org/090506/soundcomp.jpg
SB Audigy Value>DK's Drivers>Ket's Driver

One plus point of my new card is that Crystallizer works, but then a downside is that there is no connector re-tasking so i have to go to the back of my computer every time i want to change from headphones to speakers

the audigy value has creatives proprietary connector on it with headphone out but to use it the way you want to you will have to make a wire yourself

amit_talkin · May 8, 2009

x-fi MB does nothing but uses SRS labs sound enhancements with their logo. use SRS Audio Sandbox and you will gain same enhancements you get with these drivers.

I have found following SRS files which x-fi MB software installs.

SRSHP360.dll ( SRS Headphone 360 plugin )
SRS_SSCFilter_i386.sys
SRSWOW.dll ( SRS WOWHD effect )
SRSTSHD.dll ( SRS surroundHD )
SRSTSXT.dll ( SRS TrueSurroundXT )

all these plugins are of SRS audio sandbox. I m using audio sandbox for a long time. It enhances audio experience very well but it has few bugs, audio hangs after playing games for around 2 hours so I m use it very limited time i.e. for watching movies, listening songs etc.

Ketxxx · May 8, 2009

mudkip said:
Ketxx could you tell me how to use RMAA?

Then I can do a before-after test

Also I uploaded the X-fi dribers to my rapidshare.

Might be handy for some people.

Maby you could put it in your post?

http://rapidshare.com/files/228943665/Realtek_Vista_X-Fi_mod_R2.21.7z

You need a loopback cable. I don't really use RMAA since I lost the cable I had so I'm sure someone who uses it more can give you the details.

nafets said:
I'll be testing out these modded X-FI Realtek 2.21 drivers and compare them with the stock Realtek 2.21 drivers (which I'm currently using).

Very interesting stuff!

Looking forward to it :cool:

Mussels said:
well i know from dual booting mine into 7 (didnt install the modded drivers) that my bass has totally disappeared.

Bass vanished for me as well.. I think its more to do with Realtek drivers proper sucking in Vista/7 though. It is possible to let people customise equalizer settings in W7. Realtek need to work on that, without that their audio sounds like pure hot smoldering thick shit.

amit_talkin said:
x-fi MB does nothing but uses SRS labs sound enhancements with their logo. use SRS Audio Sandbox and you will gain same enhancements you get with these drivers.

I have found following SRS files which x-fi MB software installs.

SRSHP360.dll ( SRS Headphone 360 plugin )
SRS_SSCFilter_i386.sys
SRSWOW.dll ( SRS WOWHD effect )
SRSTSHD.dll ( SRS surroundHD )
SRSTSXT.dll ( SRS TrueSurroundXT )

all these plugins are of SRS audio sandbox. I m using audio sandbox for a long time. It enhances audio experience very well but it has few bugs, audio hangs after playing games for around 2 hours so I m use it very limited time i.e. for watching movies, listening songs etc.

Interesting stuff.

HellasVagabond · May 8, 2009

Nice hack Ketxxx....However since you are not working for GB or CL or RT and you are modding their drivers without their concent isn't that on its own illegal ? Just be careful bud because you never know how people in companies think.

kenkickr · May 8, 2009

HellasVagabond said:
Nice hack Ketxxx....However since you are not working for GB or CL or RT and you are modding their drivers without their concent isn't that on its own illegal ? Just be careful bud because you never know how people in companies think.

I don't mean anything by this but...Not this again! I saw this all over Ketxxx last thread. He isn't doing anything illegal, just making something better :toast:

HellasVagabond · May 9, 2009

Actually i think it is illegal to modify a code, program ( even if it is programming or just text modifying ) but i am not saying this as a bad thing, i just pointing out that some people with too much free time on their hands may find this as a good opportunity to start something against him.

amit_talkin · May 9, 2009

Ketxxx said:
Interesting stuff.

I m showing this image as a proof. I have now installed both X-Fi software and SRS Audio Sandbox. now what SRS showing me in audio control panel is following.

its because x-fi is already using SRS engine. x-fi 3D, crystalizer etc. are all renamed SRS features.

Mussels · May 9, 2009

I dont need to install any SRS stuff to get that page to show. It shows up by default just having the software installed.

amit_talkin · May 9, 2009

Mussels said:
I dont need to install any SRS stuff to get that page to show. It shows up by default just having the software installed.

neither me, but does it show same msg shown in above image? ( "Uninstall x-fi software" ).
Wht I meant to say is that better install SRS Audio Sandbox, and it works with all kinda sound devices.

Mussels · May 9, 2009

amit_talkin said:
neither me, but does it show same msg shown in above image? ( "Uninstall x-fi software" ).
Wht I meant to say is that better install SRS Audio Sandbox, and it works with all kinda sound devices.

Yes. i get the exact same message.

What features does the SRS soundbox provide.

Mussels · May 9, 2009

This message is for Daniel_K, since he seems to be lurking around here.

http://danielkawakami.blogspot.com/

EDIT, for a good laugh:

Mussels, Aussie Moderator @ TPU Forums:

"Yes its true it wont do any hardware changes or any big upgrades... but if you're changing the sound profile via EQ's and the equaliser, i'm sure the RMAA results would change somewhat."

OMG! LOL! Do you even know what RMAA is for?

Please read all the docs at http://audio.rightmark.org/download.shtml.

From RMAA manual: "For higher precision disable all equalizer, 3D effects and such."

From X-Fi RMMA guide by Creative: "Disable All Effects, including CMSS-3D, EAX, 24-bit Crystalizer, Graphic Equalizer, THX Setup."

From Audigy 2 ZS RMAA guide by Creative: "Disable All Effects, including CMSS-3D, EAX, Karaoke, Equalizer, THX Setup and Speaker Calibration."

What i said, was that these effects would affect RMAA results.
Your reply is that i'm wrong, yet you quote all these sources saying to disable the effects.

So am i right or am i wrong? If these enhancements didnt affect RMAA results, why would they need to be disabled? Make up your mind, do they, or DONT they affect the results! You're basically saying that the software should be disabled for any kind of testing, but thats all this is, a software mod! of course nothing will change if its disabled!

Please Daniel, i'm even USING your drivers - you're being an idiot for no reason.

HellasVagabond · May 9, 2009

Cool down Mussels, dont pay attention

mudkip · May 9, 2009

Mussels said:
This message is for Daniel_K, since he seems to be lurking around here.

http://danielkawakami.blogspot.com/

What i said, was that these effects would affect RMAA results.
Your reply is that i'm wrong, yet you quote all these sources saying to disable the effects.

So am i right or am i wrong? If these enhancements didnt affect RMAA results, why would they need to be disabled? Make up your mind, do they, or DONT they affect the results! You're basically saying that the software should be disabled for any kind of testing, but thats all this is, a software mod! of course nothing will change if its disabled!

Please Daniel, i'm even USING your drivers - you're being an idiot for no reason.

Daniel_k - daniel hijo de puta

amit_talkin · May 9, 2009

Mussels said:
Yes. i get the exact same message.

What features does the SRS soundbox provide.

here you go!
http://www.srslabs.com/store/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6

Mussels · May 9, 2009

amit_talkin said:
here you go!
http://www.srslabs.com/store/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6

that doesnt seem to offer anything i want... sure its probably worth having if you cant get the Xfi software working, but it lacks the features that make us want this in the first place (Crystaliser, EAX 4.0, CMSS 3D) - even under different names, this SRS software doesnt seem to have any of those*.

*SRS® 3D may be CMSS 3D, they dont really say what that is clearly

amit_talkin · May 9, 2009

Crystalizer, and CMSS 3D are changed name of SRS Definition™ and SRS HeadPhone 360 ( or cicle surround/truesurround ). If you can trace which files getting loaded while crystalizer and CMSS 3D running, you will find those files will be SRS plugins included in x-fi software. SRS sells their technologies to many manufacturers. Creative is one of them.

and yes, they dont say clearly , no one want to mess their business with their partners. If they say its same then who will buy x-fi software?

KainXS · May 9, 2009

damn danny

he went after mussels lol

lol, isn't he still creative biatch

Ketxxx · May 10, 2009

DK is indeed a creative bitch. As mussels rightly points out, the drivers are a software mod, of course some things have to be enabled to see the benefits. Same applies if your using a modded graphics driver, what do most tell you not to do? Install CCC as it overwrites the changes. Its very clear DK is being a prick for the sake of being a prick and because he is a creative bitch. I never claimed any miracles with these drivers, just to use them and make what you will. some 20+ ppl as I quoted in the first post though all cant be suffering plecebo effect :rolleyes:

Mussels · May 10, 2009

Ketxxx said:
DK is indeed a creative bitch. As mussels rightly points out, the drivers are a software mod, of course some things have to be enabled to see the benefits. Same applies if your using a modded graphics driver, what do most tell you not to do? Install CCC as it overwrites the changes. Its very clear DK is being a prick for the sake of being a prick and because he is a creative bitch. I never claimed any miracles with these drivers, just to use them and make what you will. some 20+ ppl as I quoted in the first post though all cant be suffering plecebo effect

even if they are suffering placebo, at least they're happy.

I know that leaving the modded drivers i lost all bass, games sounded really weird til i reinstalled the drivers.

seriousClown · May 10, 2009

new Realtek 2.23:

. Add/Fix
1.) Driver :
1. Customizations.
2. Fix DTM 1.4 lullaby test & wave pull mode test issue.

oldhouse · May 12, 2009

My mobo is an Asus P5Q, and audio chip should be ALC1200 which is not listed in compatible chipsets. Can I use these drivers or not?

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