TPU's Core i7 Overclocking and Feedback

[Jakethesnake011]

I dont know what fans would be the best. I really like the Delta's but I do not want to pay 100 bucks for fans. So I was more leaning towards the Ultra Kaze's 3k Rpm's. Or I do have 2 s-flex's here already and i can get some more to add to it, truthfully I do not know what the best fans would be.

 

[Fitseries3]

try ebay. you really need to learn to be more resourceful. if you pay full price for everything you are going to go broke real fast.... like other ppl have in the past.

 

[dark2099]

I am running Ultra Kaze's on my rads, 6 in total and they do a great job, might want to get a fan controller to go with them so you can adjust to your liking.

 

[Fitseries3]

i ran 6 ultra kazes on my old setup. i now run 10 delta 140mm's that are 72db each... but i run them at half speed/voltage. they are still around 42db

 

[fire2havoc]

Ultra Kazes are too loud for my taste. I recently got the Scythe S-Flex SFF21F (1600rpm) and haven't looked back.

 

[Jakethesnake011]

I found someone selling some san aces they are 120mm by 38mm, and they are the 88cfm at 1900rpm fans they look nice. They do not have a fan control lead on them, only a blue and red wire, which makes me think they are older with the 2 wire setup. here is a pic http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1988/sanace004.jpg They seem like some nice fans to put on that gtx 480, look like they have some good static pressure.

 

[Chicken Patty]

jake the setup is good bro. But like FIT said, you might find some good deals dude, look around. However, I have the same rad bro and that thing is a monster. I have said for a long time the culprit of my average temps is my CPU block (Apogee GTZ). HOwever somebody on here told me and linked me to this review. Might have been over at the RRR forums (Real Rod Riders)

Check out this review, for the GTX 480 to be efficient it has to have very high flow fans, so ultra kaze is what everyone recommended me.

http://martinsliquidlab.i4memory.com/HWlabs480GTX-Review.html

 

[mudkip]

Hey does anyone knows how to know your VID ?
I hear something about realtemp but my VID doesn't show up.

 

[Chicken Patty]

Hey does anyone knows how to know your VID ?
I hear something about realtemp but my VID doesn't show up.

this is explained in the very early stages of this thread, I really don't know where to look though, if possible to look. Search VID in this thread, you should find the answer.

 

[mudkip]

this is explained in the very early stages of this thread, I really don't know where to look though, if possible to look. Search VID in this thread, you should find the answer.

I did , nothing came up. or is it because of the time

 

[Chicken Patty]

I did , nothing came up. or is it because of the time

there is something about VID on page 1, I just saw it.

 

[mudkip]

there is something about VID on page 1, I just saw it.

Sorry but there's nothing about getting info about your VID

 

[Jakethesnake011]

Now for the pump I was looking at the MCP655 the one with the speed control. It is only a few bucks more at this point, but if I dont get it on sale I might just get the regular one without the speed control. They seem like nice pumps and I see or hear many people having them.

 

[Chicken Patty]

Now for the pump I was looking at the MCP655 the one with the speed control. It is only a few bucks more at this point, but if I dont get it on sale I might just get the regular one without the speed control. They seem like nice pumps and I see or hear many people having them.

its a great pump, but a MCP 355 with a xspc top performs better, its been proven here

 

[mudkip]

I'm getting tired of talking about pumps and rads all the time.

As I said before:

Excuse me but why it's all about watercooling all the time , isn't this supposed to be about i7 overclocking , and yes cooling is a part of overclocking but i think that this is going way too offtopic.

 

[t_ski]

Now for the pump I was looking at the MCP655 the one with the speed control. It is only a few bucks more at this point, but if I dont get it on sale I might just get the regular one without the speed control. They seem like nice pumps and I see or hear many people having them.

655 is with the speed control (iirc) and the 655 B is without. The one without is like the variable version set on 4, so the extra is worth it to me. Given the big rad you're looking at, it might help. If you want to only buy the pump, that is. Everyone else swears by the 355 18W with the extra top.

 

[Binge]

Or you could get a MCP355 with top and beat both the D5 Vario AND Fixed Speed.

 

[t_ski]

Everyone else swears by the 355 18W with the extra top.

Or you could get a MCP355 with top and beat both the D5 Vario AND Fixed Speed.

That's what I said

 

[freaksavior]

Here is my temps

 

[Fitseries3]

I'm getting tired of talking about pumps and rads all the time.

As I said before:

i sorta agree.

i7 really doesnt need water unless you are trying to run 4.4ghz+

 

[Chicken Patty]

i sorta agree.

i7 really doesnt need water unless you are trying to run 4.4ghz+

i dont know dude, if im getting the temps im getting on water, I would imagine even with the best air cooler.

 

[mudkip]

[Core i7] Watercooling discussion thread

here

 

[Binge]

i dont know dude, if im getting the temps im getting on water, I would imagine even with the best air cooler.

You know I agree, and I also agree it's a huge part about overclocking. Temperatures become a barrier at times to the electrical operation of devices. I wonder what differences in stability get to be like from air to water or if it even matters. eva2000 has done most if not all of his overclocks on AIR just using a TRUE and he reached 4.7GHz.

Most of what I do I wouldn't imagine running my i7 faster than it is because it behaves so well at 4.2GHz. The ram is at the sweet spot of 1600 MHz which allows for tight timings and great bandwidth. I saw an article that showed the benefit of running ram faster vs tighter at speeds above 1333. What I got out of it was that 1600MHz with cas 6 latency would be an optimal scenario. From what I can see there are even a few new kits available that reach 1600MHz at timings of 6-6-5-12. This is seriously a lot of improvement over such a small window of time. Back in december it would be lucky to get a 3GB kit of cas 8 1600 MHz for under $150, and I have to say even those kits are piles of stink compared to what's out there today. I'm going to do a small comparison in a second. I hope you all appreciate it

 

[Binge]

You know I agree, and I also agree it's a huge part about overclocking. Temperatures become a barrier at times to the electrical operation of devices. I wonder what differences in stability get to be like from air to water or if it even matters. eva2000 has done most if not all of his overclocks on AIR just using a TRUE and he reached 4.7GHz.

Most of what I do I wouldn't imagine running my i7 faster than it is because it behaves so well at 4.2GHz. The ram is at the sweet spot of 1600 MHz which allows for tight timings and great bandwidth. I saw an article that showed the benefit of running ram faster vs tighter at speeds above 1333. What I got out of it was that 1600MHz with cas 6 latency would be an optimal scenario. From what I can see there are even a few new kits available that reach 1600MHz at timings of 6-6-5-12. This is seriously a lot of improvement over such a small window of time. Back in december it would be lucky to get a 3GB kit of cas 8 1600 MHz for under $150, and I have to say even those kits are piles of stink compared to what's out there today. I'm going to do a small comparison in a second. I hope you all appreciate it

Soooo.... you're all going to laugh Super tight timings on ram? Pshhhh.... uber high frequency? Meh.... So I chose to test a CPU benchmark and a gaming benchmark to see if there was much of a difference between ram timings and frequency and if it really made as much or more difference than the frequency of the i7 itself. Here's the results!

i7 920 @ 4.2GHz Kingston HyperX 1600MHz 6-7-6-15

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz @ 4200 Mhz
CPU ID: Intel64 Family 6 Model 26 Stepping 5
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate 64-bit Service Pack 1
Physical memory: 6.00 GB
Display adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 0 MB
Video Processor: NVxx
Driver version: 8.15.11.8585 (20090501020200.000000-000)
Motherboard: DFI DFI LP UT X58 1.0

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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 1882, Recorded Time: 56.90s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 43.65s, Average FPS: 43.12
Min FPS: 33.31 at frame 1638, Max FPS: 52.76 at frame 1560
Average Tri/Sec: 24930622, Tri/Frame: 578174
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.32
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 41.36s, Average FPS: 45.50
Min FPS: 33.31 at frame 1638, Max FPS: 53.60 at frame 1525
Average Tri/Sec: 26294232, Tri/Frame: 577846
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.32
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 41.36s, Average FPS: 45.50
Min FPS: 33.31 at frame 1638, Max FPS: 54.86 at frame 1570
Average Tri/Sec: 26403556, Tri/Frame: 580313
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.32
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
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//////////// Summary \\\\\\\\\\\\\

05/17/2009 07:29:24 - Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate 64-bit Service Pack 1

DirectX 10 ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: frost @ 0 1920 x 1080 AA 0x
==> Framerate [ Min: 33.31 Max: 54.23 Avg: 45.50 ]


i7 920 @ 4.2GHz Kingston HyperX 1600MHz 8-8-8-24

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz @ 4200 Mhz
CPU ID: Intel64 Family 6 Model 26 Stepping 5
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate 64-bit Service Pack 1
Physical memory: 6.00 GB
Display adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 0 MB
Video Processor: NVxx
Driver version: 8.15.11.8585 (20090501020200.000000-000)
Motherboard: DFI DFI LP UT X58 1.0

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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 1882, Recorded Time: 56.90s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 43.41s, Average FPS: 43.35
Min FPS: 35.27 at frame 1367, Max FPS: 53.49 at frame 1565
Average Tri/Sec: 24598810, Tri/Frame: 567448
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.33
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 41.30s, Average FPS: 45.56
Min FPS: 35.16 at frame 1655, Max FPS: 53.59 at frame 1524
Average Tri/Sec: 26746064, Tri/Frame: 586997
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.32
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 41.35s, Average FPS: 45.51
Min FPS: 35.16 at frame 1655, Max FPS: 53.93 at frame 1571
Average Tri/Sec: 26130090, Tri/Frame: 574143
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.33
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

//////////// Summary \\\\\\\\\\\\\

05/17/2009 07:07:11 - Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate 64-bit Service Pack 1

DirectX 10 ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: frost @ 0 1920 x 1080 AA 0x
==> Framerate [ Min: 35.16 Max: 53.76 Avg: 45.54 ]

i7 920 @ 4.2GHz Kingston HyperX 2000MHz 8-8-8-24

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz @ 4200 Mhz
CPU ID: Intel64 Family 6 Model 26 Stepping 5
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate 64-bit Service Pack 1
Physical memory: 6.00 GB
Display adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 0 MB
Video Processor: NVxx
Driver version: 8.15.11.8585 (20090501020200.000000-000)
Motherboard: DFI DFI LP UT X58 1.0

==============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 1882, Recorded Time: 56.90s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 42.89s, Average FPS: 43.88
Min FPS: 33.91 at frame 1635, Max FPS: 53.80 at frame 1553
Average Tri/Sec: 25446648, Tri/Frame: 579873
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.32
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 41.20s, Average FPS: 45.68
Min FPS: 33.91 at frame 1635, Max FPS: 53.80 at frame 1553
Average Tri/Sec: 26388626, Tri/Frame: 577728
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.32
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 41.35s, Average FPS: 45.51
Min FPS: 33.91 at frame 1635, Max FPS: 54.97 at frame 1563
Average Tri/Sec: 26367188, Tri/Frame: 579353
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.32
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

//////////// Summary \\\\\\\\\\\\\

05/17/2009 07:49:14 - Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate 64-bit Service Pack 1

DirectX 10 ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: frost @ 0 1920 x 1080 AA 0x
==> Framerate [ Min: 33.91 Max: 54.39 Avg: 45.60 ]

i7 920 @ 4.0GHz Kingston HyperX 2000MHz 8-8-8-24

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz @ 4000 Mhz
CPU ID: Intel64 Family 6 Model 26 Stepping 5
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate 64-bit Service Pack 1
Physical memory: 6.00 GB
Display adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 0 MB
Video Processor: NVxx
Driver version: 8.15.11.8585 (20090501020200.000000-000)
Motherboard: DFI DFI LP UT X58 1.0

==============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 1882, Recorded Time: 56.90s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 42.77s, Average FPS: 44.00
Min FPS: 33.55 at frame 1631, Max FPS: 54.44 at frame 1548
Average Tri/Sec: 25262982, Tri/Frame: 574157
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.33
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 41.61s, Average FPS: 45.23
Min FPS: 33.55 at frame 1631, Max FPS: 54.69 at frame 1568
Average Tri/Sec: 26344398, Tri/Frame: 582456
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.32
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 41.51s, Average FPS: 45.34
Min FPS: 33.55 at frame 1631, Max FPS: 54.69 at frame 1568
Average Tri/Sec: 26135890, Tri/Frame: 576426
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.32
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

//////////// Summary \\\\\\\\\\\\\

05/17/2009 07:40:19 - Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate 64-bit Service Pack 1

DirectX 10 ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: frost @ 0 1920 x 1080 AA 0x
==> Framerate [ Min: 33.55 Max: 54.69 Avg: 45.29 ]


Video card was a GTX295 at stock settings. The only changes to the bios were to change the timing and frequency of the ram and CPU on the last test. The last test reveals that most benchmarks will be affected by CPU frequency instead of ram frequency. I am more surprised that this D0 can run at 4.2GHz with 2000Mhz ram That alone is a bright shiny beacon of niceness that came out of this abyssmal line of testing. Why am I less enthusiastic about my 50nm Elpida HyperX ram modules? Well I think the results speak for themselves Happy overclocking!

 

[Fitseries3]

thats what i been demonstrating for a few months now...

expensive parts are just that.... EXPENSIVE. no added bonus for the extra money.

i bet i could easily match anyones system with my low budget parts.