PowerColor launches HD 4670 AGP, Passive HD 4770 and more ATI cards

[W1zzard]

Apparently there is still a huge number of AGP users that want to upgrade their graphics, yet are not willing to invest in a new system with PCI-Express support. PowerColor has listened to those requests and has now announced the PowerColor HD 4670 AGP PCS which is going to be the fastest card available for this dying interface.


The cornerstone specs are 1 GB GDDR3, 128 bit memory interface, 750 MHz core, 800 MHz memory.



Another interesting card is the PowerColor HD 4770 SCS3. It works without any active cooling which means it should be an excellent choice for any media PC system.


A second HD 4770 on display is geared more toward users who are looking to overclock their card, the HD 4770 PCS comes with an improved cooler, yet the default clock frequencies are still 750/800.


For the lovers of performance cards, the HD 4890 PCS++ is one of the few 1 GHz+ models available, coming at 1010 MHz core and 1100 MHz memory. It is difficult to find such good ASICs so expect limited availability of this card.


To celebrate the launch of the Battle Forge DirectX 10.1 game, Powercolor has chosen to bundle their HD 4890 with this game at only a small price increase.

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[W1zzard]

digg please http://digg.com/hardware/PowerColor_has_HD_4670_AGP_fastest_AGP_card_in_the_world

 

[Duncan1]

Great work man.Digged...

At last non-ref HD4770s !!

 

[Kitkat]

umm 4650!=4670

that 4650 carries GDDR2 and a much lower core speed the 4670 carries GDDR3 and a higher core clock

*oh my bad i miss read it thats prety cool* I dont think itll be faster anyway who has a AGP board that wont bottleneck past 3850??

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125281&Tpk=4650 agp

been avbailible for about 3 weeks now? for some reason its not in the AGP section u have to search it directly

this has been for about a week and a half but i know theres 2 vers.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131156

ooo and hadent seen this one till today!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102841

Its been about 6 weeks so the ASUS cant be far behind.

 

[cdawall]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125281&Tpk=4650 agp

been avbailible for about 3 weeks now? for some reason its not in the AGP section u have to search it directly

this has been for about a week and a half but i know theres 2 vers.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131156

ooo and hadent seen this one till today!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102841

umm 4650!=4670

that 4650 carries GDDR2 and a much lower core speed the 4670 carries GDDR3 and a higher core clock

 

[Hunt3r]

good
;D

 

[mamisano]

That passive 4770 would be a nice addition to an HTPC... Nice to see some non-standard 4770 designs being announced.

 

[BOSE]

People still use AGP?

 

[1Kurgan1]

Is this really faster than the 3850, I guess I could see it being marginally, the biggest thing will be price as the 3850AGP is an eye gouger.

 

[BOSE]

I keep getting 2 emails even though there was only one reply.

Admin, please look in to your email server.

Thanks.

 

[enaher]

MMM... Where are the solid caps on the AGP 4670:shadedshu, well id get that if priced under a hundred ive got a Asrock 4COREDual Sata2, Pentium e5200, 2 Gigs of Value Ram that need a GPU that way id have 3 pc for L4D deathmatches

 

[InnocentCriminal]

People still use AGP?

Yep, a lot of people. Probably explains why they want some of that market - if not many offer AGP card but people need them, then they'll basically sell everything they make for a goo profit. I'm sceptical on performance of the 4670 like you Kurgan, I wonder if it'll be any faster than a stock 3850. My 3850 when OC'd beats a PCIe 3870.

 

[RadeonProVega]

Alright this is wonderful news for AGP users, but hey powercolor what about some new pci cards please.
Oh well, AGP users, enjoy and have fun!

 

[cdawall]

Alright this is wonderful news for AGP users, but hey powercolor what about some new pci cards please.
Oh well, AGP users, enjoy and have fun!

good god no more pci cards pci bottlenecks any card over a NV6200

 

[erocker]

Alright this is wonderful news for AGP users, but hey powercolor what about some new pci cards please.
Oh well, AGP users, enjoy and have fun!

Basically they aren't making any "higher end" PCI cards because it would just be limited by the PCI slot.

 

[Yukikaze]

Alright this is wonderful news for AGP users, but hey powercolor what about some new pci cards please.
Oh well, AGP users, enjoy and have fun!

Why do we need more PCI cards ? The 8-freaking-400-freaking-GS is bottlenecked on PCI and the HD4350 is bottlenecked on a PCI-E x1 slot. Making new cards on PCI is not going to make sense, what exists out there is more than enough.

If they made some real low power PCI video cards with something like half a G98 in power on them, that'd make sense for low power, cheap mITX rigs, or old computer upgrades. Anything more powerful that the current PCI lineup is a complete and utter waste.

 

[newtekie1]

MMM... Where are the solid caps on the AGP 4670

There is no need for solid caps on a mid-range card like this. It would just needlessly drive up the cost. Solid caps just became mainstream a year ago, and now ever card/motherboard needs them? My my, how did we ever survive without them for all those years?!?!

Yep, a lot of people. Probably explains why they want some of that market - if not many offer AGP card but people need them, then they'll basically sell everything they make for a goo profit. I'm sceptical on performance of the 4670 like you Kurgan, I wonder if it'll be any faster than a stock 3850. My 3850 when OC'd beats a PCIe 3870.

The 4670 should give a pretty nice performance bump over the 3850, especially when AA is concerned as the RV670 had some issues with AA.

 

[thraxed]

I'm beginning to think we've all been had over the capabilities of PCI-X over AGP.

 

[mudkip]

There are enough people with an AGP slot who like to have a card like this.

 

[newtekie1]

I'm beginning to think we've all been had over the capabilities of PCI-X over AGP.

PCI-X isn't better than AGP, its worse actually. Now PCI-E, thats a different story...

And while mid-range cards like the HD4670 wouldn't probably suffer much from the lower bandwidth of the AGP slot, higher end cards definitely would.

 

[enaher]

There is no need for solid caps on a mid-range card like this. It would just needlessly drive up the cost. Solid caps just became mainstream a year ago, and now ever card/motherboard needs them? My my, how did we ever survive without them for all those years?!?!

No need?, drive prices up? for a few solid caps that can prolong the life of the card, before solid caps were rare and expensive but for a 7c dif its not worth it? thats the dif of caps in lots a 1000 and thats the price in Honduras(third world country btw), electrolitic capacitor age you now and i like my belonging to last the longest they can to keep or sell them in perfect condition, i dont mind paying a few dollars extra for quality sure that extra 3$ must hurt right now with the economy and all...

 

[WarEagleAU]

Awesome, nice to see AGP still going.

 

[yourma2000]

a 4670 AGP is as pointless as the 4650 agp, neither of them will out do the 3850, i'm still rooting for a possible 4770 AGP after Amazons cock up

 

[lemonadesoda]

Agree. We want 4770 not 4670.

HOWEVER, I think a 4670 PCB and memory layout would be compatible with the 4770. When there are more 4770s available (they cant make em fast enough today) then PowerColor can just release the 4770AGP.

So this IS GOOD NEWS... it is laying the path for a 4770AGP. The design work and PCB has been done.

For speeds? Not sure, 4670 and 3850 are probably neck and neck... but the 4670 will use less power, be cooler, and quieter. Might even OC better with a 3rd party cooler.

But I agree, 4770 is the way to go.

digg please http://digg.com/hardware/PowerColor_has_HD_4670_AGP_fastest_AGP_card_in_the_world

Digg? For just plain marketing and PR info? No way.

I will only digg once you post VALUE-ADDED information, like a review, or a benchmark or two. Even if just basic. But something to provide a performance comparison.

Just take a USB stick and ask the guys at the desk to run a couple of basic tests, like GPU-Z, Lightsmark 2008, Furmark. They are low memory/install requirements and complete their runs in just 60 secs. I'm sure they will oblige.

 

[newtekie1]

No need?, drive prices up? for a few solid caps that can prolong the life of the card, before solid caps were rare and expensive but for a 7c dif its not worth it? thats the dif of caps in lots a 1000 and thats the price in Honduras(third world country btw), electrolitic capacitor age you now and i like my belonging to last the longest they can to keep or sell them in perfect condition, i dont mind paying a few dollars extra for quality sure that extra 3$ must hurt right now with the economy and all...

Prolong the life of the card from what? Regular caps last long enough already, why do you think there are cards that are 10 years old still in use today? Besides that, the RV730 doesn't pull enough power to even come close to the limits of regular caps. Solid caps are useful on high end cards that are sucking down 200w, but on a sub-75w card like the HD4670, they provide nothing.

And the AGP bridge is already going to drive the price of this card up way beyond what it is worth, and even a small cost increase to the manufacturer can equal $5-10 to the consumer. Thats $5-10 extra for nothing. If you still have AGP 10+ years from now when the difference between solid caps and regular caps become appearent, I pitty you...