newtekie1
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Again you started this crap, i want solid caps that should be enough, you don't know what i do with my pc or the condition it's in and many other details, yet you think you can tell me what i need? and your accusing me of being full of myself?, as i said you or everyone else might not need them thats ok i don;t care, but i do want my solid caps, i like to reduce risk as much as i can, and thats what solid caps are, a failure reduction component, so they raise price i don't care, but they're mainstream for a reason now.
And the answer to your BIG question: yes hardware survives without solid caps, but it's fail rate is higher, now lets imagine you have to take any comunication device to a jungle/mountain/cave, mmm... you've got two choices one without solid caps with a fail rate of 2%, and one with solid caps and a fail rate of 1% i'd take the solid caps 1% is a small risk, that i wouldn't take even if you screamed in my ear how unnecesary that is...
Want another example: in a OC contest what Mobo would you take if there the same Brand/Model the only difference would be solid caps? with or without?
You know Solid Caps were developed to reduce the hardware failure rate
Nope, my 4CoreDual Sata2 has No SC. your right
BTW, im not gonna answer this crap any more, I really think your to hard headed.
Your examples do not apply here, there is nothing you can do with this card that would require solid caps. You aren't going to be entering it in any overclocking contests, you aren't going to be taking it to the jungle/mountain/cave. So none of that applies. You can't give me a single valid reason why solid caps on this card would be necessary, or even benefitial.
And you seem to have gone completely off track and are trying to turn this discussion into a simply Solid Cap vs. Normal Cap debate. I'm not saying there aren't applications that benefit from Solid Caps, and even applications where I would make sure Solid Caps were used. However, I'm saying in this single application on an AGP HD4670, there will be no benefit to solid caps.
And you are only partially correct in saying that solid caps were developed to reduce failure rates. They were developed to reduce failure rates under high load situations, as they can take more abuse than liquad caps. However, that doesn't help one bit with this card, I highly doubt anyone will be overvolting the card, so the normal caps will be just fine, and even if you do overvolt the card unless you are pumping some serious juice through it, the normal caps will be just fine. And if you push the voltage far enough that the normal caps become the limitting factor, you better have some damn good cooling because you will probably fry the core first. And really, if you can afford the cooler to do it, you should have something better than an AGP machine at this point.
And remember, you started this, I responded to your comment.
Yep thats true but, you know they always skimp on the quality polystyrene capacitors, or even go as far as covering the cheap caps with aluminium barrels so they look like solid caps, but i think its mainly for the price and size of polystyrene and polycarbonate capacitors.
That again doesn't apply here. If they use high quality caps, it won't be an issue. A budget card maker might use cheap caps, but I doubt someone like PowerColor will. And again, you are going off track and talking about normal caps as a whole. I highly doubt they are slipping aluminum barrels over caps this small to pass them off as higher rated caps. And you also seem to forget that solid caps are not immune from poor quality and improper ratings... I'd take a good quality normal cap over a poor quality solid cap any day.