TPU's Core i7 Overclocking and Feedback

[Wile E]

My bad, I was talking feature set wise. I'm sure there are some that matter more about what they get with the board (features) than how far it will push a processor.

To your point I don't disagree.

Even if you did buy a $200 P55, it still wouldn't have true 16x lanes in Crossfire or SLI. The $170 X58 board will.

No matter how you look at it, it's completely retarded to buy an 860 or 870 over a 920 or 950.

 

[REVHEAD]

Even if you did buy a $200 P55, it still wouldn't have true 16x lanes in Crossfire or SLI. The $170 X58 board will.

No matter how you look at it, it's completely retarded to buy an 860 or 870 over a 920 or 950.

There is no differance in performance having X16 or X8 I have had both X16 x2 with x38 x48 and now x58, and I have had x8 with P45 and performance is identical, only reason I can see x16 x2 to have the edge would be if your going for a 4870x2 in crossfire or a 295 x2 in sli , if your going to be running 2x4870 or 4890s in Crossfire or similar then there is no benefit having x16 x 2 whatsoever as sigle gpu cards allready have all the bandwodth they need with 8 lanes in pcie 2.0.

THE p55 is allready better than the x58 as all pci lanes are controlled directly on the cpu itself, with x58 they are still on the x58 northbridge, plus you get the added benefit of 95w TDP as with the 920 onwards your stuck with hot 130 TDP. P55 is the superior option.

 

[Wile E]

There is no differance in performance having X16 or X8 I have had both X16 x2 with x38 x48 and now x58, and I have had x8 with P45 and performance is identical, only reason I can see x16 x2 to have the edge would be if your going for a 4870x2 in crossfire or a 295 x2 in sli , if your going to be running 2x4870 or 4890s in Crossfire or similar then there is no benefit having x16 x 2 whatsoever as sigle gpu cards allready have all the bandwodth they need with 8 lanes in pcie 2.0.

THE p55 is allready better than the x58 as all pci lanes are controlled directly on the cpu itself, woth x58 they are still on the x58 northbridge, plus you get the added benefti of 95w TDP as with the 920 onwards your stuck with hot 130 TDP. P55 is the superior option.

Having the PCIe controller on the cpu just limits your connectivity options. There's no benefit to it other than packaging, which doesn't much help us in an ATX formfactor, as space isn't limited anyway. Not to mention, to get as many lanes as X58, they have to add additional chips anyway, negating the original benefits of it anyway. Besides all of that, It doesn't tangibly improve performance anyway.

As far as bandwidth, it may be enough for all but the 295 and 4870X2 now, but what about 5870 and GT300? If the 295 and 4870x2 see benefits from 16 + 16, newer cards will as well.

You also lose triple channel ram when you go to P55.

I should also note that the current lga1156 cpus seem to not be clocking nearly as well as their 1366 counterparts.

I have to fully disagree with you, X58 is a MUCH better platform in terms of features and potential than P55. And for what it costs to grab an 860 on P55, you can get a 920 on X58, or a 950 instead of an 870.

 

[Binge]

Having the PCIe controller on the cpu just limits your connectivity options. There's no benefit to it other than packaging, which doesn't much help us in an ATX formfactor, as space isn't limited anyway. Not to mention, to get as many lanes as X58, they have to add additional chips anyway, negating the original benefits of it anyway. Besides all of that, It doesn't tangibly improve performance anyway.

As far as bandwidth, it may be enough for all but the 295 and 4870X2 now, but what about 5870 and GT300? If the 295 and 4870x2 see benefits from 16 + 16, newer cards will as well.

You also lose triple channel ram when you go to P55.

I should also note that the current lga1156 cpus seem to not be clocking nearly as well as their 1366 counterparts.

I have to fully disagree with you, X58 is a MUCH better platform in terms of features and potential than P55. And for what it costs to grab an 860 on P55, you can get a 920 on X58, or a 950 instead of an 870.

Wile E, your powerlevel is over 9000!!! The winning goes to you.

As an afterthought... it isn't because Wile E is a hardcore x58 fan either. From what I understand he's yet to jump on board, so don't say he is biased. When it comes to graphics or CUDA crunching with multiple GPUs there is totally a need for extra PCI-E bandwidth... just like I believe there is a need for memory bandwidth in GPUs, and not just memory speed. Putting the memory I/O and north bridge into the CPU while making it a powerhouse would be assuming too much from intel. What they want to do is cut costs for a consumer grade processor that gives enough power for their target audiance. This makes me wonder...

Intel uses a small process to make a small chip that does a good chunk of work of two larger chips. While it costs them less money to make... somehow the motherboards and CPUs end up being more expensive to the consumer? Maybe I'm just looking at this negatively, but this is a really sneaky thing intel is doing...

 

[Chicken Patty]

I must also agree with Wile E and say that 1366 is still the better option.

P55 is not clocking nearly as good, and the X58 boards continue to rock a lot more.

as far as TDP, I'm sure it's the least of worries to the majority of the buyers looking for a high end platform like the ones we are discussing about. Just my two cents.

 

[Binge]

the MO-RA fears no TDP!

 

[Wile E]

the MO-RA fears no TDP!

Neither do those of us that like the smell of burning silicon. lol

 

[Binge]

Neither do those of us that like the smell of burning silicon. lol

Sadist

 

[kid41212003]

P55 is good for people that not planning to OC, because the TB mode works "harder" with core i7 1156.
Max Clock for TB with core i7 920 is ~2.9GHz, while the 860 is 3.2GHz, and 870 is 3.4GHz if I remember right, and this is the reason why the core i7 1156 out-perform the 920 in most cases when using default clock with TB on.

 

[Chicken Patty]

the MO-RA fears no TDP!

AMEN!

 

[johnnyfiive]

Lapped CPU, loving the new temps. I'll eventually get around to lapping the Noctua heatsink, winter is coming, 20's here I come!

Thats what I'm talking about.

 

[Chicken Patty]

how's load Johnny.

 

[johnnyfiive]

not too bad, still big gap between core 0 and 3.

 

[Chicken Patty]

just need to lap the HS now, maybe with both of them lapped and even the temps will decrease significantly and even out across the cores.

 

[t_ski]

this post=amazing

Thanks, but all credit goes to the original thread:

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=100494809&mpage=1&key

I just copied and pasted because at one point, I was too lazy to go over there and read the thing. Thought I might help others avoid the same mistake.

 

[Fitseries3]

 

[Chicken Patty]

Is That Yours?


Dude, That Setup Is Sick, Whoever's It Is. Absolutely Beautiful!

 

[HammerON]

Okay ~ I am seriously jealous

 

[mastrdrver]

So, I see you made the ultimate vanatge machine Fits.

 

[Binge]

That's not his machine. I can't believe you guys

 

[mastrdrver]

Well, who ever owns it my comment still stands.....and Vantage falls.

 

[msgclb]

Did EVGA also make an EVGA classified power supply to power that set of 4 EVGA GTX 285 classified graphics cards? i.e. This rig needs twelve 6-pin PCI-E power cables.

(1) EVGA X58 Classified 4-Way SLI $450
(4) EVGA GTX 285 $1520
(1) unknown PSU $$$$

 

[Chicken Patty]

Did EVGA also make an EVGA classified power supply to power that set of 4 EVGA GTX 285 classified graphics cards? i.e. This rig needs twelve 6-pin PCI-E power cables.

(1) EVGA X58 Classified 4-Way SLI $450
(4) EVGA GTX 285 $1520
(1) unknown PSU $$$$

That's a crap load of pci-e connectors man

 

[johnnyfiive]

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3592/dsc0306bd.jpg

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/500/dsc0307ib.jpg

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/4806/dsc0310m.jpg

I feel bad for the PSU's powering that setup.

 

[Fitseries3]

for those of you waiting to jump on a new GB x58 with 24phase power....

i got this message from GB on these boards...

This model is not produced, it was only shown on some computer fair.

For 24 phase power you can look at a new model GA-P55-UD6 based on on new P55 chipset.

so its NOT going to happen.

for a b3 x58 chipped mobo try the evga classified 760 and the new x4 classified as well as the LE model x58 from evga.

there are others that i will list later.