HIS Radeon HD 5850 1 GB

[Velvet Wafer]

Wow that is expensive, where do you live?
Here it's at 225€, which is pretty nice, but I'll wait until it drops to 177€ which should happen in a reasonable timeframe.

230-200 here,Germany

 

[LaidLawJones]

I hope no one minds a post from another site. Here is a comparison of 5870(s) and 5850(s) vs all other contenders.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5850,2433.html

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Its about 216 euro/£198 in the uk.

 

[cbupdd]

Wow that is expensive, where do you live?
Here it's at 225€, which is pretty nice, but I'll wait until it drops to 177€ which should happen in a reasonable timeframe.

Mmm.. interesting.
I'm from Bcn, Spain. I found the hd5850 at 250€ (without shippment) on alteranate.es But is still expensive for me.. I can pay as much as 200€ (~300Usd)

 

[TheMailMan78]

@ Wizz. Why do you use windows 32-bit and 9.6 drivers?

Also I wanna say two things.

1. Thank you for the review.
2. I love your reviews man.

 

[Mussels]

nice.

one 5850 pretty much matches the performance of a 4870x2, which means i can swap two cards for one - same performance, lower power and heat.

i'm sure as drivers improve (and with OCing) that 5-15% deficit will level out, leaving it with a pretty even match (4870x2 or 4870 crossfire vs one 5850)

 

[wolf]

nice.

one 5850 pretty much matches the performance of a 4870x2, which means i can swap two cards for one - same performance, lower power and heat.

i'm sure as drivers improve (and with OCing) that 5-15% deficit will level out, leaving it with a pretty even match (4870x2 or 4870 crossfire vs one 5850)

auspcmarket has 5850's apparently in stock for a hair over $400, seems a bit rich to me.

I'll wait for the price to come down but the more I think about it the more I want one or two of these babies.

 

[Mussels]

auspcmarket has 5850's apparently in stock for a hair over $400, seems a bit rich to me.

I'll wait for the price to come down but the more I think about it the more I want one or two of these babies.

i'll wait til around the $300 mark - and then there'll be a bargain for some 4870's with S1's

 

[inferKNOX]

I'm having a 5850 ordered for me tomorrow, but the XFX version from Amazon since there's free shipping and it's all they have listed ATM. Look forward to it, but will only be seeing it in Nov despite an early order coz it's delivered elsewhere.
Hmph, I gave up hoping to win it from PowerColor (check the sig) because of the rampant cheating. I think I may have won it if wasn't for the cheats. Anyway, I never win anything anyway.

 

[BraveSoul]

digg it ppl ,,gpu-z would be nice with 1ghz core

 

[rpsgc]

added gpuz 1 ghz. temps in the high 80s, stock cooler of course

Would it be possible to achieve, say, 880/900MHz without increasing the voltage so much as the 1000MHz overclock? Less than 1,3V. On the other hand factory-overclocked versions ought to take care of that

 

[inferKNOX]

I hope to OC it to about the same on stock V.

 

[Relayer]

Any chance of seeing some numbers for how the 5850 (and/or 5870) performs with 3D applications like Max, C4D, Softimage, etc.? Not all of us can afford/justify the price premium for pro cards and these are supposed to be better in OpenGL than previous consumer cards.

Thanks

 

[btarunr]

Our VGA reviews are gamer/overclocker-specific than graphics professional-specific. That's one of the reasons why we don't review NVIDIA Quadro or ATI FirePro.

 

[Mussels]

Our VGA reviews are gamer/overclocker-specific than graphics professional-specific. That's one of the reasons why we don't review NVIDIA Quadro or ATI FirePro.

still, i get his point. it'd be nice for someone to do a one-off article, comparing Geforce to quadro and radeon to fireGl - with w1zzards unique "performance per $" graphs

 

[W1zzard]

make a new thread in comments & feedback and teach me how to benchmark professional stuff and i'll add this

 

[Delta6326]

Awesome review as always i love to just go on TPU and start to look at sweet cards like these. Sadly ima stay with my 2x 4850 probable till 68*0 or 78*0.
But also i did a have a ? why do you use Windows Vista 32-bit SP2? with 3x 2048 MB ? but im happy you went with the new i7 and x58 i was hoping you would

 

[niko084]

Heh, now after seeing these results this looks like it will quite probably be my next card!

Lower power consumption than my 4850 with a pretty nice boost in performance, now we are talking, little fan tweaking and clock movement it will probably even do better.

 

[niko084]

Any chance of seeing some numbers for how the 5850 (and/or 5870) performs with 3D applications like Max, C4D, Softimage, etc.? Not all of us can afford/justify the price premium for pro cards and these are supposed to be better in OpenGL than previous consumer cards.

Thanks

Would be nice to see, but honestly a lot of these cards simply don't do the work because the drivers are not built for it and the software looks for very specific drivers and cards. Some pieces of software will revert to software rendering if they don't find compatible hardware.

Best bet generally is if you don't have the money to throw at the pro card, you may want to look into cross flashing, there are still a few cards out that can do it, and probably more new ones to come, it can be a pain but I do it for some of my better customers on occasion.

 

[mdm-adph]

I agree with the power consumption, it is kick ass on that. Love the overclocks too. I wish they would unlock their shaders, this really seems to be one area in which Nvidia excels and AMD could learn to use it.

NVIDIA excels at unlocking shaders? Teach me how to turn my GTX 260 into a GTX 275.

I believe he meant unlock the power of their shaders, as in having 1600 getting beat by 512...(or 800 getting beat by 240 if you want a comparision that is guaranteed)

Of course, he also might have meant unlock the shader clock from the core clock...

I don't think he meant unlock in the way you are using the term unlock.

Aye -- WarEagle means more of a "decoupling" of the shader speeds from the core speed.

Although, I wouldn't argue that Nvidia "excels" at it and ATI doesn't -- it's just something that ATI can't/won't do right now.

 

[W1zzard]

why do you use Windows Vista 32-bit SP2? with 3x 2048 MB ? but im happy you went with the new i7 and x58 i was hoping you would

because when i setup this bench rig vista 64 wasnt mature enough imo. yet i wanted to run triple channel, i had only a 3x 2 gb kit. next bench system will have w7 64 (will change around november time)

 

[Relayer]

make a new thread in comments & feedback and teach me how to benchmark professional stuff and i'll add this

I'll try and do that. There are benchmark utilities for these apps. I'll do a search and make a list.

Thanks for considering it.

 

[Relayer]

Our VGA reviews are gamer/overclocker-specific than graphics professional-specific. That's one of the reasons why we don't review NVIDIA Quadro or ATI FirePro.

Living in New Zealand most of the pro cards aren't even available, ATI Firpro for instance aren't available at all. The price premium is way over the top on the Nvidea Quardo because of limited supply too.

FX-3700 = $789.99 @ comp USA. (Not exactly a discount retailer).

FX-3700 = $2100 to $2500 in NZ.

At current currency conversion rates it would be $1,083.00 NZD @ comp USA price. You'd really be doing a service to see if consumer cards could be pushed into service.

I appreciate what you are saying, and as a general rule, I agree with your position. Previous generation cards flat out suck running 3D apps. I'm under the impression that the 5800 series might be different and are capable cards for this use. Maybe not. It would be nice to know though.

 

[troyrae360]

Living in New Zealand most of the pro cards aren't even available, ATI Firpro for instance aren't available at all. The price premium is way over the top on the Nvidea Quardo because of limited supply too.

FX-3700 = $789.99 @ comp USA. (Not exactly a discount retailer).

FX-3700 = $2100 to $2500 in NZ.

At current currency conversion rates it would be $1,083.00 NZD @ comp USA price. You'd really be doing a service to see if consumer cards could be pushed into service.

I appreciate what you are saying, and as a general rule, I agree with your position. Previous generation cards flat out suck running 3D apps. I'm under the impression that the 5800 series might be different and are capable cards for this use. Maybe not. It would be nice to know though.

Lol, Check this out:
"Leadtek Quadro FX 5600 G80GL 1563MB DDR3 16x PCI E 2xDVI Card" found at NotebookCity for $7299.62 including gst on 6th Oct 04:33, $6488.55 excluding gst.

I would definitly like to see benchmark with these type of cards up against Gaming cards.
I know Alot of what gose on is at driver level and if you soft mod a Geforce card and install a Quadro Driver then you can expect around the same results, Most 3D Design tools are using Open GL so Im sure the new ATI 5870 would hold its own with the right driver etc...

Also there is a benchmarking Suite for testing 3ds Max, Maya and others but it requires you to have full versions of the product installed (that would cost a small fortune to do) Heres the link http://spec.it.miami.edu/gwpg/apc.static/max9info.html

 

[LAN_deRf_HA]

Hey W1z, any chance we can get some overclocked performance numbers @ 1ghz core/1250 memory?

That would be nice..