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Radeon X1800GTO@XT MOD (12P to 16P)

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I think you didn't understand me..!? I don't want to do it everytime I restart my computer, I want my card to run on that speeds and voltages like it's default settings. Of course I know the "overclocker" but it wasn't the thing I ask you for?

I'm asking which bios editor program can I use to change my mem voltages to make it permanent ?
 

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chron said:
yea, using ATITool it reads all 16 pipes. Before it would read 12. It reads them correctly and the performance gain matches.

heres my current bios running at 600/600 with 16 pipes unlocked. It should work with any GTO since it uses a gto bios... GTO600600.zip

Can I use this bios on my Sapphire X1800GTO VIVO? :rockout:
 

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Makkara90 said:
Can I use this bios on my Sapphire X1800GTO VIVO? :rockout:

Sapphires dont unlock

waiting on a brand new one to be refunded or repaired myself,because someone said it COULD be done.

well,it cant...they dont unlock to 16
 

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Well it's goodbye AMD... again and hello Intel... Again. Just ordered myself a brand spanking new Core 2 Duo system with - luckily - a HIS x1800 GTO card to sit along with it. After ploughing through the thread I'm feeling quite pleased with myself for stumbling upon this make and model card and can't wait to start unlocking.

I'm planning on making the modification to my own BIOS rather than downloading a third parties. I'm just a little unclear on a few points, would anyone be kind enough to spell them out?

1. After backing up, editing, opening and saving the BIOS using RaBiT2.0a do I need to flash the bios from a DOS tool or does RaBiT do the flashing (if so, does that in itself require a restart?)
2. It seems there is a trade-off between using an existing XT BIOS and modding your own. One gives you core voltage manipulation while the other gives you memory voltage manipulation, but neither give you both... Hmm I've misunderstood haven't I!?!
3. Has anyone tried the recovery method suggested earlier - of booting from a floppy and using a PCI (not -e) second graphics card - to recover a messed up x1800?

Thanks, now, anyone want a Sempron 3100+ :)
 

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AJ Rimmer Bsc.Ssc. said:
Sapphires dont unlock

waiting on a brand new one to be refunded or repaired myself,because someone said it COULD be done.

well,it cant...they dont unlock to 16

They unlock, but just a very small amount of cards, that's why they put out the GTO2
600 POST :D
 

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pt said:
They unlock, but just a very small amount of cards, that's why they put out the GTO2
600 POST :D

none..i repeat NONE of the sapphire X1800gto`s unlock.

first you`ll try and unlock it via a sapphire XL bios...it will fail

then you`ll search for an answer and find some BS russian swine who claims he did it with an Asus bios,
you will try to flash the Asus bios onto your sapphire card,your pc then wont boot with the sapphire in it.
then you`ll be sending your sapphire card back to sapphire to get an RMA,with your fingers crossed.
they will check the bios and find what you did and void your warranty.

you will then be waiting for a dual Pci-e motherboard with the ability to swap Pci-e hyerarchie on boot just so you can flash your old sapphire back to the original bios to see if the cards been fried.

better to buy an HIS X1800gto...that way you`ll be certain the 12 to 16 pipe unlock works.

cost me £140 to find this out.

save the money and sell the sapphire to buy an HIS.
 

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I have a HIS x1800gto. I can unlock the 4 extra pipelines but when it comes using the card when playing a 3d game it freezes. Ive tried edited firmware from Chron and i still get the same problem. Ive had the clocks at stock and the voltage up to 1.375. Now another issue is in the instructions, it says go to features in rabit. Well in rabit 2.1 under the features tab there is no option to change the voltage of the card. I know i am so close and that its a certain sequence of changes. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

X
 

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xfireuser said:
I have a HIS x1800gto. I can unlock the 4 extra pipelines but when it comes using the card when playing a 3d game it freezes. Ive tried edited firmware from Chron and i still get the same problem. Ive had the clocks at stock and the voltage up to 1.375. Now another issue is in the instructions, it says go to features in rabit. Well in rabit 2.1 under the features tab there is no option to change the voltage of the card. I know i am so close and that its a certain sequence of changes. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

X

does it freeze with stock bios ?

also,you might need to re install directx and card drivers after a bios flash.
 

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sometimes these extra pipes are not usable...if the 4 extra pipes are "bad" then your clocks may not even go as high as stock...if you use your original bios and your card works fine, but eveyother bios u use crashes then this could be the case...

if i remember right ...or if what i have read is true, then this is why x8xx and x18xx gto lines have the xtra pipes...they were chips that didnt pass tests for the xl or xt line...

if the card is new and is able to be RMA'ed then i would return it for another one and see if that helps...good luck to ya
 

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Rabit2.1's voltage control is under the clocks tab I believe... Sorry about that. As far as the game freezing, it could possibly be because of bad pipes, or it could be because of the clocks/voltages...

Does it freeze at 16pipes 500/500 / stock voltages?
 

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under stock settings and 12 pipes it runs great with the 6.7s. I will try 16 pipes and stock settings and see what happens. Thanks.

x
 

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Can anyone point me in the dierction to a bios mod to upgrade the Sapphire X1800GTO2 to a X1800XT?? I have searched all over the web, no luck... anyone? :nutkick:
 

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On the subject of this thread, for all our UK members, you can get an 1800XT at the moment from "overclockers UK" for only £10 odd more than the 1800GTO! the link is here:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/X1800_Series.html

So why go through the hassle of unlocking! Ohhhh and its considerably cheaper than the GTO2 is gonna be when it arrives in UK.
 

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~MUFF~MuNcHeR said:
sometimes these extra pipes are not usable...if the 4 extra pipes are "bad" then your clocks may not even go as high as stock...if you use your original bios and your card works fine, but eveyother bios u use crashes then this could be the case...

if i remember right ...or if what i have read is true, then this is why x8xx and x18xx gto lines have the xtra pipes...they were chips that didnt pass tests for the xl or xt line...

if the card is new and is able to be RMA'ed then i would return it for another one and see if that helps...good luck to ya

Sometimes it also helps to underclock slightly before a flash...certainly make sure that the card is at least at stock.
 

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TiesTorN said:
I think you didn't understand me..!? I don't want to do it everytime I restart my computer, I want my card to run on that speeds and voltages like it's default settings. Of course I know the "overclocker" but it wasn't the thing I ask you for?

I'm asking which bios editor program can I use to change my mem voltages to make it permanent ?

You dont need to do it everytime if you set it right and save the profile.
 

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wesleysnipes said:
Can anyone point me in the dierction to a bios mod to upgrade the Sapphire X1800GTO2 to a X1800XT?? I have searched all over the web, no luck... anyone? :nutkick:




You dont need to flash it to a x1800xl, the gto2 already has 16 pipes and no more....however you MAYBE can take your original bios and mod it with a few tools to up the voltage and thus up your overclock...again in theory....

wesley i would love to help you out on that if you need.....hit me up at muncher23@hotmail.com....:toast:
 

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Wesley, theres no need to mess with your card. The only modification I can think of that you might want to try is adding an aftermarket VGA fan to it and to the voltage regulators as well and then turning up the voltage so you can overclock it more.

The big deal with the GTO's origionaly was that they were only 225 bucks while the 256MB XT models were arround 350. When I first got the HIS GTO, I was upgrading from an x800xl and that particular card wasn't playing games as well as I wanted. So you see how at the time, it was a fairly good buy.

I'd say currently, the best bang for the buck is this GTO2 model since it already comes with 16 pipes and it clearly has 6 mosfets on the end for power above 1.25V. If they had these when I was trying to upgrade from my x800xl, I would have bought this one instead.

I think us GTO owners can either beat our heads against a rock for not waiting for the GTO2 model or simply accept the fact that it was the best bang for the buck at the time.

I personaly will be upgrading to conroe, or now known as Core 2 Duo at the end of august and hopefully this card will get me through until the dx10 cards first start coming out.

Talk about an expensive hobby. JEESH
 

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i have a sapphire x1800gto and 16pipline not working. I have flashed in windows xp and nothing. Please help!!!
 

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sapphire GTO's have very poor unlocking rates. Its the gto2 that has the full 16 pipes.

As stated many times, not all brands work and HIS is the only brand that has had a very good success rate.

sorry bro
 

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And don't get the GTO2 if you are in the UK.....you can find an xt cheaper!
 

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Hello again

My new bench score:

3DMark01: 51876
3DMark03: 20821
3DMark05: 10482

I must change cooling from AC to WC or something better :D
 

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Hello again

My new bench score:

3DMark01: 51876
3DMark03: 20821
3DMark05: 10482

I must change cooling from AC to WC or something better :D


I have same motherboard, e6400 @ 3.2, and an x1800gto at 700/700. My max was 11,227. Can't tink of what it could be...
 

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Maby problem is in my old system.
When i reinstal windows i bench again and check results

Did you have a score from aquamark3??
 
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