NVIDIA GeForce 4XX Series Discussion

[Csokis]

Fake?!

 

[GSquadron]

It is fake because there are exactly 3000milion transistors.

 

[Benetanegia]

I don't think its product superiority I think its just that Nvidia supports their products better

I'm not claiming an all around superiority, only when they have been faster and I'm speaking about performance as that is what the discussion was about. Product superiority is something that cannot be objectified: performance, features, F@H... it all depends on what people want off the cards. But to say that Nvidia has only been faster because they have crippled Ati's performance is stupid and based on nothing but superstition, lack of any understanding or lack of any desire to understand and a lot of FUD cleverly spread by some people since a long time ago.

An example of that superstition and lack of understanding is how people still mention Assassins Creed, when it just takes a little bit of understanding and common sense to know TWIMTBP had nothing to do with it. AC was a TWIMTBP game from the start. If Nvidia wouldn't want DX10.1 on the game and Nvidia had the influence that these people attribute them, it would have never been released with DX10.1. It's far easier to take a feature down before release than just after release. By the time AC was released the HD3xxx cards had 6-7 months. It just takes one, 1 Nvidia employee buying a single Ati card an testing. You can't think Nvidia is guiding a massive and perfectly covered conspiracy (there's no proofs, out of all the people that should be involved not a single one says anything) and think they would fail to notice that HD3xxx cards were faster. Specially when you are claiming their job is exactly looking how Ati cards perform and crippling them. You can't put the two things under the same logic.

 

[Lionheart]

that pixel and texture fillrate seems a tad low!

 

[KainXS]

no the pix and tex fill rates are right, the 480 should have 48 rops and 64 tex units so using the standard calculating method, those are right, but since it can do 4 triangles per clock its not exactly right but it might be normal for gpu-z to not show it

it might be fake but its not that wrong.

the driver version makes me think its fake, and the dead giveaway is the bios version which belongs to the GTX275

62.00.60.00.01 = GTX275 = Fake
The Device ID is also that of the GTX275

 

[OnBoard]

the driver version makes me think its fake

That's the part that would make sence, no support in older drivers.

I beat the Texture fillrate almost with stock clokcs. Same core and I get 47,6GTexels/s.

But memory is too low, GTX 470 had 1300MHz in the leaked specs (if they were true).

 

[KainXS]

naa its just that the all the demos I have seen haven't used that driver but that pics totally fake

they could have done better

 

[jaredpace]

Fake?!

http://img7.abload.de/img/gtx480bu3r.png

Wha? GTX480 is actually a GTX275 lightning with 900mhz GDDR5, 6000 million transistors & a 621mm die? Amazing

 

[Mussels]

Really, a bias opinion. A successful company built upon non-superior products, you gonna need solid proofs. I may not old enough to know too far way back of both companies, but the results usually show the truth.

how about a precedent: apple.

 

[erocker]

There are plenty of different threads in the News section on this topic now. Take your on topic discussions there. The amount of cleanup constantly needed in this thread is ridiculous and it has run its course. There are plenty of threads on Fermi in the Nvidia subforum. Since most news/information about Nvidia will be centered around their new cards, having one thread for everything isn't going to work anymore. If you want to partake in a particular discussion in relation to these cards, again penty of threads at your disposal in the Nvidia subforum. If you have a particular piece of information/questions/advice not covered by any recent threads. Start a new thread.

Here are some threads on the subject:

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116734
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116561

There are also more specific threads in the Nvidia subforum:

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=59