Dxdiag incorrectly reports DirectX 11 devices as DDI 10.1 when using Win 7

[EastCoasthandle]

will test this tomorrow, with two 5850 everything maxed out and 8Xaa FPS jumps between 45 to 60 which disappointed me alot, looks like a bug tho, but with 4xaa everything was fine. It ran with 16 QsAA with my 275 SLI before and FPS never dropped below 60, I know it wasn't DX11 but now the game is unplayable with only just 8xaa, constant frame drops gets really annoying..And I notice MSI afterburner in game monitor never worked with DX11 games, will test this with dirt2 and BC2 tomorrow.

Re-read my post you quoted something different. For me it removed the stuttering in certain aspects of the game:
-end of race animation where it does a quick look at the crowd outside the trailer
-during replays where there was stuttering when dirt was kicked up by the vehicles

Also, I am using a single gpu not CF so I can't say for certain that you will notice anything.

 

[gaximodo]

"will test this tomorrow" was for your post, and everything else was stating out that I find the performance was a little disappointing.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Re-read my post you quoted something different. For me it removed the stuttering in certain aspects of the game:
-end of race animation where it does a quick look at the crowd outside the trailer
-during replays where there was stuttering when dirt was kicked up by the vehicles

Also, I am using a single gpu not CF so I can't say for certain that you will notice anything.

You sure that isn't confirmation bias? Did the FPS change?

 

[EastCoasthandle]

You sure that isn't confirmation bias? Did the FPS change?

I recall that you've objected to this from the very start. Post #2 to to be precise. It's no surprise that you would post this.

 

[gaximodo]

Lol. just ran the game, with this new fix my Dirt2 with 8xaa is officially unplayable, stuck with 15fps all the time, I don't know if it's my pc or not, will restart tomorrow and try.... really have to go to bed now.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

More then likely something is messed up with your PC. Hope you fix it, lol. I just took a look at that hotfix and I didn't see anything mentioned about any adverse effects with CF. If you confirm that this is in fact the problem you may need to contact MS. Perhaps they have another update.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Just like then, all the signs (from Microsoft) say this will not effect performance. It's a bug in DirectX Diagnostic Tool, not DirectX or the display driver. In other words, that number means absolutely nothing outside of dxdiag. It'll get fixed the next time Microsoft updates dxdiag.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

Just like then, all the signs (from Microsoft) say this will not effect performance. It's a bug in DirectX Diagnostic Tool, not DirectX or the display driver. In other words, that number means absolutely nothing outside of dxdiag. It'll get fixed the next time Microsoft updates dxdiag.

Actually the hotfix website makes no mention of performance nor do they imply it. There is no sign to see. However for me it did remove the stuttering I've explained earlier in this thread.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Stuttering is measured in FPS. I don't see any before/after FPS figures.

 

[Mussels]

ford... just because it hasnt helped you, doesnt mean its not real. crusader now has DX11 in his games, eastcoast now has better FPS in DX11 games.

stop trolling and wasting peoples time.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Placebo effect. Something else happened at about the same which most likely caused those changes. It wasn't this.

KB975243

SYMPTOMS:
When you run the DirectX Diagnostics Tool (Dxdiag.exe) on a computer that is running Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2, the diagnostic tool incorrectly reports a DirectX 11 device as a DirectX 10.1 device. This incorrect version information is shown in the DDI field on the Display tab. This problem is only a reporting error. This problem does not affect the DirectX 11 hardware or software functionality of the graphics card.

That is all.

 

[Mr McC]

As mentioned earlier, if you have a 64bit OS it's better to use IE 64 to download the file. Apparently, downloading the 64bit version itself using 32bit browser may cause problems.

Seriously, the more I read here, the more convinced I am that it would be better to wait for an officially sanctioned release fix. Don't get me wrong, I am very grateful that you brought this issue to my attention, but it appears that there are too many possibilities for me to mess things up at the minute, an area where I generally excel.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

Seriously, the more I read here, the more convinced I am that it would be better to wait for an officially sanctioned release fix. Don't get me wrong, I am very grateful that you brought this issue to my attention, but it appears that there are too many possibilities for me to mess things up at the minute, an area where I generally excel.

That's understandable. But just as a side note if things didn't go well you could uninstall it by looking for KB975243 in the "Uninstall a Program" then go to "View Installed Updates".

 

[Steevo]

If you are still running Win 7 Beta you will not have access to DX11, it will always show DX10.1

 

[EastCoasthandle]

If you are still running Win 7 Beta you will not have access to DX11, it will always show DX10.1

I wonder if anyone is still using the beta

 

[gaximodo]

Yep, confirmed, now dirt2 with 8xaa is totally crapped, by the time I switched to 8xaa, FPS dropped to 15~ish without that hotfix was getting constant 60 in menu and stuttering between 45~60 (keeps at 60 and drops to 45 every 10 seconds or so) The only change to my pc was this hotfix and I do very much believe what ford said it was only a display bug fix but it must somehow bugged my OS, DO NOT INSTALL THIS FIX IF YOU HAD NO PROBLEM BEFORE! And I doubt everything some guy doesn't even own a dx11 card says, hes just watching everybody's saying and guessing what was the problem and judge without any knowledge.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

Yep, confirmed, now dirt2 with 8xaa is totally crapped, by the time I switched to 8xaa, FPS dropped to 15~ish without that hotfix was getting constant 60 in menu and stuttering between 45~60 (keeps at 60 and drops to 45 every 10 seconds or so) The only change to my pc was this hotfix and I do very much believe what ford said it was only a display bug fix but it must somehow bugged my OS, DO NOT INSTALL THIS FIX IF YOU HAD NO PROBLEM BEFORE! And I doubt everything some guy doesn't even own a dx11 card says, hes just watching everybody's saying and guessing what was the problem and judge without any knowledge.

Well there goes the placebo theory, LOL. Yeah, kinda hard to agree with Ford when you deemed such a result. But your issue may just be your PC though. You never stated if your DDI was reading anything other then DDI 11. So for those that read this check your dxdiag and tab over to monitor. If your DDI reads 11 you don't need to update anything.

Oh BTW: You never posted a pic (or made mention) of your DDI before/after you applied the update. What is it?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

My guess is the fix wasn't thoroughly QA'd which is why you have to "request hotfix downloads" (signing a waiver even) instead of directly downloading. That clearly shows they have little faith in what it does and why it won't be addressed until the next service pack.

All Windows 6.1 systems will have DDI = 10.1. It is a problem related to DirectX 11.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

The only thing different with his setup is that he is using CF. Furthermore, he never mentioned if he actually needed the update (IE: DDI 10.1 issue). And didn't state what it read (or provided a pic) after he did the update. All he did was say he played Dirt 2 using 8x AA. For me, Dirt 2 with 8x AA works fine.

 

[LiveOrDie]

I wonder if anyone is still using the beta

the beta would be dead more likely there using the RC

 

[gaximodo]

Well there goes the placebo theory, LOL. Yeah, kinda hard to agree with Ford when you deemed such a result. But your issue may just be your PC though. You never stated if your DDI was reading anything other then DDI 11. So for those that read this check your dxdiag and tab over to monitor. If your DDI reads 11 you don't need to update anything.

Oh BTW: You never posted a pic (or made mention) of your DDI before/after you applied the update.

I stated mine was 10.1 as well before the fix, check my earlier posts, I have no reason to lie, and no time to install/uninstall that crappy fix and take pics, 2 essays due on next Monday......

Edit: Oh btw, you never posted any pics for your "FPS improvement" either,
my CCC was set to max btw, except the AA section(with supersampling at max) with out supersampling at max 8xMSAA is fine for both ACII and Dirt 2 but with it on ACII is only playable with 2xmsaa and dirt 2 started that stuttering issue,(with the fix keeps at 15fps and without drops to 45 every 10 seconds) And I have to leave it on cos it looks so much better even without any MSAA settings.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

I stated mine was 10.1 as well before the fix, check my earlier posts, I have no reason to lie, and no time to install/uninstall that crappy fix and take pics, 2 essays due on next Monday......

Edit: Oh btw, you never posted any pics for your "FPS improvement" either,
my CCC was set to max btw, except the AA section(with supersampling at max) with out supersampling at max 8xMSAA is fine for both ACII and Dirt 2 but with it on ACII is only playable with 2xmsaa and dirt 2 started that stuttering issue,(with the fix keeps at 15fps and without drops to 45 every 10 seconds) And I have to leave it on cos it looks so much better even without any MSAA settings.

The reason for questioning your posted results is simple. The point of this thread is regarding getting DDI to read 11 and not 10.1. Something you did not provide. All you said is that you are having frame rate problems with Dirt 2. Which is really not the subject of this thread.

There are many factors that could have caused the problem you are having. However, the few who have tried it so far haven't had a problem that you described. If you have a problem just uninstall it (which I assumed you did). You've made a pretty big mountain out of mole hill here, lol.

 

[gaximodo]

I did mentioned I do have DDI10.1, check my earlier posts, and from Ford's posts you will find out every PC without that fix will report DDI 10.1 You acted out aggressively right after my posts saying HD5800 made me disappointed and ignoring the fact the first post I made in this thread was says I do have DDI10.1 reported, and the rest was trying to tell other ppl not to use this fix coz it doesn't really helps anything other than change a number in your dxdiag, and may cause bugs. It's no point to discuss this thing over and over again with you, the problem is quite obvious and ppl may have problem are informed now, you have a nice day Mr. OMG HOT FIX IMPROVED MY FPS!!

 

[EastCoasthandle]

I did mentioned I do have DDI10.1, check my earlier posts, and from Ford's posts you will find out every PC without that fix will report DDI 10.1 You acted out aggressively right after my posts saying HD5800 made me disappointed and ignoring the fact the first post I made in this thread was says I do have DDI10.1 reported, and the rest was trying to tell other ppl not to use this fix coz it doesn't really helps anything other than change a number in your dxdiag, and may cause bugs.

Argumentative aren't you? As stated I did question the DDI reading which you never told. That's not being aggressive it's just asking a question. And as stated the DDI hotfix did help me, etc with games. This is what you are being argumentative about. You think just because you had a problem everyone else will when that's simply not true.

 

[Mussels]

one person (single GPU) had a performance increase
one person (multi GPU) had one particular game on one particular setting bug out
one person can now use DX11 when he couldnt before.


we're getting quite a mixed bag from this hotfix... i wonder if its related to the drivers people are using.