The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club

[brandonwh64]

Come on mail man! i want to see 4ghz on that DDR2 board!

 

[Wile E]

http://hwbot.org/article/news/hwbot_research_lab_amd_thuban_nb_and_memory_performance_scaling

this is also very good concerning the N/b speed and ram timing
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=224502

Love these new hwbot reviews and articles. Very well written.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Come on mail man! i want to see 4ghz on that DDR2 board!

Well I just ran OCCT again and it was stable. Now what do I do? Could core temp have caused an error?

 

[exodusprime1337]

the stock multi is 14 i though, hence why it doesn't go over, only the 1090t black edition allows for multi overclocking

under water my 1090t at 4.25Ghz 1.525v with a 3k nb at 1.275v i idle in the high 20's about 27-29 and load about 45-46(says my mobo), the temp sensor on mine is fuggered but what i found was that if my temp rises to a stable level, say when i had my 965 the coretemp would read 45 in prime95 and after about 5 minutes, so did the board temp. My finding here was that under constant and stable load the temp was even. So if i'm priming and my board hits about 46 and the board temp stays at 46 for a while, i just consider it accurate...

Kinda a poor description... i'm wicked tired and my bed is beckoning(damn you WoW and torchlight), but to answer your question in short at 4.25hz 1.525v i idle at 28 or so and load at 45 during stress. battlefield bad company 2 puts me about 40c on the board reading after 20 minutes of play all 6 cores 80% load. It's really not that bad and i know i put way to much thermal grease so that will be rectified soon.



Since we're on the subject, i'm curious as to the effectiveness of my cpu block(fuzion v2.0). The water temp right now is 24.2c coming out of the radiator, the internal case temp of the air just below the radiator is 23 so i'm looking at roughly a 1c difference in air to water temp.
Now under load the water goes to about 27c after 10 min of prime. but the temperature of the cpu climbs to 46 so that's 16 over idle.
no i'm no math genious and my thermal dynamics skills aren't much better than my eating habits so the question is, how effective is the block at dissipating heat.. do i have a flow issues, or is the cpu block not making proper contact with the cpu??

another simplifiied render of this is like so
idle water temp 24c cpu at 29c
load water temp 27c cpu at 46c

is this normal, or could anybody else with a water cooling loop confer such differences. Or is the scaling of cpu temp not conducive of the water temp.. ie the block can just do only so much?

sorry bout the long post, and most likely off topic, but this has been bothering me lol.

 

[mastrdrver]

I'm confused now. According to everything I have, my C3 955 shows the same core and cpu temperatures. Do I need to throw in that 10C offset or did I read right earlier that the C3s have correctly reading temp sensors?

I thought I wasn't too bad hitting just over 50C under full load at 1.5v, but now I'm a little concerned that its 60C!

 

[cadaveca]

I'm confused now. According to everything I have, my C3 955 shows the same core and cpu temperatures. Do I need to throw in that 10C offset or did I read right earlier that the C3s have correctly reading temp sensors?

I thought I wasn't too bad hitting just over 50C under full load at 1.5v, but now I'm a little concerned that its 60C!

Does the cpu throttle under load? NO? Then don't worry about it.

 

[mastrdrver]

Do AMDs still throttle if you turn off thermal control in bios?

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

well im screwed... Windows 7 i have both my cd keys dont work today is not my day and microsoft are being cock blockers

 

[Chicken Patty]

well im screwed... Windows 7 i have both my cd keys dont work today is not my day and microsoft are being cock blockers

Why is Microsoft being cock blockers? Want to share your experience?

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

neither key worked i asked to have it reset they told me no that simple... i was told to buy another copy of Windows 7

besides the above everything else went okay with the system the 965 is running beautifully the new mushkin ram seems to be holding up no issues and all seems to be going well in that sense.

time to pray my college buddy still has 1 key left

 

[Chicken Patty]

neither key worked i asked to have it reset they told me no that simple... i was told to buy another copy of Windows 7

besides the above everything else went okay with the system the 965 is running beautifully the new mushkin ram seems to be holding up no issues and all seems to be going well in that sense.

time to pray my college buddy still has 1 key left

But how the heck are they just going to tell you to buy another copy??? Just for that I'll buy a MAC

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

yea no cd keys left for home premium... FML...

 

[Chicken Patty]

yea no cd keys left for home premium... FML...

dammit dude, good luck man

 

[mastrdrver]

Give it about 3 months and retry the key. Seems to be the magic number.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

thats the point these 2 win 7 keys were never used period..... they should work already

ive only dabbled with win7 never actually activated it with my keys as i was using vista 64bit and happy

 

[Wile E]

Recall the activation line and try again. That's all. Tell them it's only on one computer. they shouldn't be telling you tough luck if the keys are legit.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

well after a few midnight angry phone calls i should a cd key tomorrow morning..... found a buddy who had an extra 64bit proffesional key laying around from his office upgrade.

well i owe a buddy a round of drinks but i got Windows 7 Pro 64bit working and all is well... i just hope he dosent bankrupt me by getting hammers expect overclocking results soon

 

[brandonwh64]

Well I just ran OCCT again and it was stable. Now what do I do? Could core temp have caused an error?

try to raise your voltage to 1.55V and test to see if it will hit 4ghz stable but monitor temps. also NB volts may need to be raised alittle to kinda even it out.

Crazyeyesreaper. why dont you hook me up with that older 940BE?

 

[computertechy]

just screwing around with my 1090t

 

[JrRacinFan]

Open to suggestion on how I can get more out of this rig. Clock the ram up more?

Not sure how far it can go but I am almost at my max on cpu 24.7.

 

[erocker]

I would try working on tighter timings, perhaps decrease the RAM frequency.

 

[JrRacinFan]

Helped my L2 & L3 writes a little but nothing outstanding.

It's too bad that max I can get on CL8 is lil over 1500.

EDIT:

That's where I stop dead with my tightest timings/best bandwith with temps/volts in mind.

 

[mastrdrver]

Have you tried backing down the HT Link to see if that will help?

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

try to raise your voltage to 1.55V and test to see if it will hit 4ghz stable but monitor temps. also NB volts may need to be raised alittle to kinda even it out.

Crazyeyesreaper. why dont you hook me up with that older 940BE?

sorry no can do the 940be will be shipped to exodusprime as it was a trade for the 965be..

altho ill soon have a for sale thread with 4 gigs DDR2 gskill pc 6400 5-5-5-15

and a am2+ 790gx gigabyte UD4H among a few other things..

but yea sorry man no can do on the 940be altho if intrested send me a PM i can hold the other items if your intrested

 

[kenkickr]

I guess I'll show off my 1055T: