High temps and help on basic pc optimization

[LoneSnake]

Hi there
My name is Simon, 1 and a half year ago I bought my beloved computer, custom build by some guys who know what they are doing (;
Back then I was what you would call a heavy gamer with no further interest in what a computer really is, but now, times have changed.
Recently I found out a little about the term overclocking, and it sounded amazing to me, i figured out that temperature plays quite an important role, so i downloaded RealTemp and that kinda blew me mind. The readings were as follows:

Temperature
62 58 60 60
Distance to TJ Max
38 45 42 42

Theese readings where made made after just a couple of hours surfing the internet, no gaming.

As I said I am quite a newb and about 6 months after i bought my pc i decided to change my fan becouse my computer were noisy, just to find out that it didn't help..
I have some different problems with the computer and changed hardisc once.
Below i will add some imformation about my set-up taken from WinAudit, please reply with a little bit of help, I would love to get a little part of your apparently really nice community.

Love
Simon from Denmark

Computer Name BRUGER-PC
Domain Name WORKGROUP
Roles Workstation, Server, Potential Browser, Master Browser
Description
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 64-Bit
Manufacturer MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD
Model MS-7360
Number Of Processors 1
Processor Description Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9300 @ 2.50GHz
Total Memory 4096MB
Total Hard Drive 466GB
Display SyncMaster 2043 BW, SyncMaster 940BW
BIOS Version 041807 - 20070418

PS. RealTemp read that my processer had 2336.01 MHz...

 

[arroyo]

Welcome to TPU Community!

About your problem. If your PC don't crashes, and you have BOX cooler on CPU, than your temps are OK. Don't worry about it.

 

[Fourstaff]

Sounds like your computer is rather hot. Are you using the stock heat sink for your processor? Please fill in the details of your computer here.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

A good idea would be to fill your systems specs in, cliky

Do you have the stock cooler on? if so you could invest a little bit of money in an aftermarket cooler for your cpu.

Clean out ur case, removing any dust from fans/filters etc.

Reseat and reapply thermal paste, could be seated incorrectly.

And lastly welcome to TPU

 

[TheMailMan78]

Have you already overclocked or is everything set to default? Also make sure you make better thread titles next time. The mods hate titles like "Help". Welcome to TPU!

 

[twilyth]

Can you bring up task manager, click on the processes tab and sort them by cpu usage.

Are there any processes consistently using 25% of the cpu? If so, since you have a quad, there will most likely be 4 of them. Let us know what they are. Just one should be enough to get an idea of what is running.

I won't bother explaining right now since it probably isn't an issue.

 

[Deleted member 3]

Start by reading the forum rules, this thread title is not acceptable.

 

[LoneSnake]

Sounds like your computer is rather hot. Are you using the stock heat sink for your processor? Please fill in the details of your computer here.

I filled specs.
I have got an Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro 7

A good idea would be to fill your systems specs in, cliky

Do you have the stock cooler on? if so you could invest a little bit of money in an aftermarket cooler for your cpu.

Clean out ur case, removing any dust from fans/filters etc.

Reseat and reapply thermal paste, could be seated incorrectly.

And lastly welcome to TPU

I have just done some cleaning, but I do it regularly and there wasn't really much dust in there
I have no idea how to handle the thermal paste, googled it and I found out it surrounds the CPU chip, is that right?
And thanks

Have you already overclocked or is everything set to default? Also make sure you make better thread titles next time. The mods hate titles like "Help". Welcome to TPU!

No I never overclocked, but I would love to optimize my performance a bit without having to much of a risk.
And sorry about the name.

Can you bring up task manager, click on the processes tab and sort them by cpu usage.

Are there any processes consistently using 25% of the cpu? If so, since you have a quad, there will most likely be 4 of them. Let us know what they are. Just one should be enough to get an idea of what is running.

I won't bother explaining right now since it probably isn't an issue.

Well, no, i do think Opera is using quite a lot (; But i guess thats intended

 

[twilyth]

And sorry about the name.

Just so you know, they want you to edit the original post and change the title to something descriptive.

 

[LoneSnake]

Just so you know, they want you to edit the original post and change the title to something descriptive.

I would be glad to do so, but can't figure out how, Thanks

 

[dr emulator (madmax)]

have you tried cpu-z? available from here(tells you about cpu speed fsb etc)

and hw monitor for your temps here

and ofcause gpu-z for your graphics card here

 

[LoneSnake]

I would be glad to do so, but can't figure out how, Thanks

I changed the title through edit > go advanced > title on the original post, but didn't change the forum title s:

 

[twilyth]

I changed the title through edit > go advanced > title on the original post, but didn't change the forum title s:

I just tested it on an old post of mine from a month ago and it worked fine.

Don't know what to say, click on Dan's username (post #7) and send him a PM

 

[dr emulator (madmax)]

title change on the way

 

[LoneSnake]

have you tried cpu-z? available from here(tells you about cpu speed fsb etc)

and hw monitor for your temps here

and ofcause gpu-z for your graphics card here

Hey, and thank you.
I downloaded all three and I am quite overwhelmed by what they can tell me (;
Though I have no idea what to do with them, should I save the reports as .txt's and upload or what?
The temp readings is 64 58 58 58 after less than an hour of surfing..

 

[Mussels]

title change on the way

done

Hey, and thank you.
I downloaded all three and I am quite overwhelmed by what they can tell me (;
Though I have no idea what to do with them, should I save the reports as .txt's and upload or what?
The temp readings is 64 58 58 58 after less than an hour of surfing..

if you're just surfing the wem, 60-65C temps is too hot.

Your CPU heatsink is either not attached properly, or not transferring heat for some reason (dust, broken fan, no/dried up thermal paste)

 

[twilyth]

Something I just thought of - the cpu fan is probably set to rev up and down with cpu usage. I can't remember how that works though so I hope someone else jumps in. It might be a bios setting but I'm not sure.

You can test it under load with Prime 95 - http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/ - you can go to step 3 and dl. You don't have to register - at least you never used to.

There are newer tools but I can't remember the names.

I'm old.

 

[LoneSnake]

Something I just thought of - the cpu fan is probably set to rev up and down with cpu usage. I can't remember how that works though so I hope someone else jumps in. It might be a bios setting but I'm not sure.

You can test it under load with Prime 95 - http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/ - you can go to step 3 and dl. You don't have to register - at least you never used to.

There are newer tools but I can't remember the names.

I'm old.

I love how they call it a torture test, but should I do an In-place large FFT (Maximum heat, power consumption, some RAM) or the Blend (tests some of everything, lots of RAM)

Thanks

 

[LoneSnake]

done



if you're just surfing the wem, 60-65C temps is too hot.

Your CPU heatsink is either not attached properly, or not transferring heat for some reason (dust, broken fan, no/dried up thermal paste)

Thanks

What should I do? well I just looked inside my beast again (; and I saw that the fan was a bit floppy, as one or two of the connections has broken.. I had my computer tested once and they glued the two other connections, would a crappy picture help?

 

[Mussels]

There are newer tools but I can't remember the names.

I'm old.

OCCT, orthos.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Thanks

What should I do? well I just looked inside my beast again (; and I saw that the fan was a bit floppy, as one or two of the connections has broken.. I had my computer tested once and they glued the two other connections, would a crappy picture help?

Yes. post pic.

 

[twilyth]

I love how they call it a torture test, but should I do an In-place large FFT (Maximum heat, power consumption, some RAM) or the Blend (tests some of everything, lots of RAM)

Thanks

You don't really expect me to know the answer do you?

Sorry.

I have a low frustration threshold and never had a knack for OC'ing so I never really played with it much. I can't remember what setting I normally used (guess this is becoming a theme) but I think it was whatever stressed the cpu most which looks like the first one.

They should each have the cpu on all fours post haste.

The main reason I suggested it was to see how dramatically the temps go up under load. If it's only 5C or so, then the fan is probably compensating and you will hopefully be able to hear that. If it's more, we'll burn that bridge when we come to it.

Since your pc was custom built by (I'm assuming) someone reputable, they should have done at least a decent job of applying the thermal paste, so that wouldn't be my first guess, but other guys here have a lot more experience.

 

[dr emulator (madmax)]

well they are all types of monitoring software
best one to try that doesn't require you to be a rocket scientist is hw monitor
that should tell you the speed of your cpu's fan and it's internal/external temperatures

gpu-z will tell you the temperature and clock speeds of your graphics card/s bios versions fan speeds etc

just click on the .exe files

and tell everyone what they say

 

[LoneSnake]

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[LoneSnake]

Yes. post pic.

I posted a link, couldn't figure out how to integrate images..