High temps and help on basic pc optimization

[LoneSnake]

Well lets get your temp fixed first. After that we will help you with the cables and such. FYI your system isnt bad. It just needs some work

Also one thing we havnt covered is your processes. Post a pic of your task manager at idle. Just remember to block out your name and such. You could have a background process thats running up your temps.

Dunno if this is "Real Idle, but..."

 

[Radical_Edward]

Yeah, you could fit a 120mm in there. I personally put a 120mm in my 5.25 bays as well. If your going to put fan(s) there and want to stay "quiet" I'd stick with a good 120mm, 80mm's don't move enough air if they are the lower dba models. (Normally, I'm sure there are a few exceptions to this.)


Another decent example of good cable management would be my rig...

 

[LoneSnake]

Yeah, you could fit a 120mm in there. I personally put a 120mm in my 5.25 bays as well. If your going to put fan(s) there and want to stay "quiet" I'd stick with a good 120mm, 80mm's don't move enough air if they are the lower dba models. (Normally, I'm sure there are a few exceptions to this.)


Another decent example of good cable management would be my rig...

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/Renagade_Recon/716f577b-1.jpg

Nice rig.

I only have 2 problems.. On the front of my case there is like a flippy floppy thingy covering the 5 1/4 slots.. And, if i open three of the slots, wouldn't it just be bare fan and no "protection" at all'?..

 

[Radical_Edward]

Fan grills. They are your friends.

See?

 

[LoneSnake]

Fan grills. They are your friends.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/Renagade_Recon/12573366.jpg

See?

Ahh, we could mate up perfectly, grills and I (; But still, the Flippy Floppy thingy annoys me a bit

Closed

Open

Wondering if I should remove it, though it then may look a bit wack, tell me what you guys think

 

[Radical_Edward]

I'd leave the Door on, but that's just me.

But if you are bothered by it, you could remove it, although at that point I'd rather get a different case if I were you.

 

[LoneSnake]

I'd leave the Door on, but that's just me.

But if you are bothered by it, you could remove it, although at that point I'd rather get a different case if I were you.

I think that's my opinion as well. I am not sure how much the fan would move the temps. And I guess with that Flippy Flo.... on no fan can be placed in those slots..

 

[Radical_Edward]

Well, I'm looking at a photo on Newegg, and I see no reason why you wouldn't be able to install it there.

Install into the 5.25 bay area, then put a fan grill on it, it wouldn't have to stick out at all. Thus, it wouldn't interfere with the door.

 

[Radical_Edward]

In fact, here's where I'd install it, and how the new airflow would work.

Edit- Whoops, thought I hit edit on my other post, didn't mean to double post there...

 

[LoneSnake]

In fact, here's where I'd install it, and how the new airflow would work.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/Renagade_Recon/6603db9f.jpg



Edit- Whoops, thought I hit edit on my other post, didn't mean to double post there...

Np, it looks quite good, but would I then have to have my door open always?

 

[Radical_Edward]

Take a look at your door. Then at your 5.25 bay panels, see all those holes and cracks? The air will go through those.

If your door is closed, as long as it isn't some super high CFM fan, it's not going to hurt your airflow or make some nasty noise. There appears to be a decent amount of spare for air to still get in just fine.

Edit- Also, it looks like there's a backplate to that door, take that off, cut a large area hole for the 5.25 bay area, and put it back on, the fan could suck air through there no problem.

 

[LoneSnake]

Take a look at your door. Then at your 5.25 bay panels, see all those holes and cracks? The air will go through those.

If your door is closed, as long as it isn't some super high CFM fan, it's not going to hurt your airflow or make some nasty noise. There appears to be a decent amount of spare for air to still get in just fine.

Edit- Also, it looks like there's a backplate to that door, take that off, cut a large area hole for the 5.25 bay area, and put it back on, the fan could suck air through there no problem.

Well i have just taken of the backplate and it looks as if there is not enough space, though I can't see how air is going to be able to come into that room, as the door closes quite tight, sorry if I don't get what you are saying, please bare with me

 

[Radical_Edward]

It's okay, I don't have the case right in front of me, so I can only hypothesize fan placement, etc.

You may just be out of luck then if it closes fairly tightly. Honestly I'd get a new case unless you really like your rig being quiet.

Edit- You could always cut out for a 120mm fan on the top of the case in front of the PSU.

I'd mount the fan as exhaust. Draw some more of that hot air out.

Heck, if we got those cable managed right, you could have two bottom 120mm intake fans too, if you made cuts for them.

 

[LoneSnake]

It's okay, I don't have the case right in front of me, so I can only hypothesize fan placement, etc.

You may just be out of luck then if it closes fairly tightly. Honestly I'd get a new case unless you really like your rig being quiet.

Edit- You could always cut out for a 120mm fan on the top of the case in front of the PSU.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/Renagade_Recon/6be2642d.jpg

I'd mount the fan as exhaust. Draw some more of that hot air out.

Heck, if we got those cable managed right, you could have two bottom 120mm intake fans too, if you made cuts for them.

Then i'd have 3 exhaust and 1 intake, is that good? And how difficult is it to cut that hole with just regular home tools?

 

[dr emulator (madmax)]

out of curiosity what power supply does it have in it?

 

[crush3r]

Then i'd have 3 exhaust and 1 intake, is that good? And how difficult is it to cut that hole with just regular home tools?

Yes, having negative pressure in the case is good, hot air leaves more quickly and cool air replaces it

 

[Radical_Edward]

Then i'd have 3 exhaust and 1 intake, is that good? And how difficult is it to cut that hole with just regular home tools?

How about 3 intake and 3 exhaust?

If you have a dremel, you'll be set, if you don't... Go get one.

 

[Mussels]

Yes, having negative pressure in the case is good, hot air leaves more quickly and cool air replaces it

you want even pressure. negative air pressure forces fans intake fans to go faster than they should, causing them to wear out faster... and it causes dust build up.

 

[crush3r]

you want even pressure. negative air pressure forces fans intake fans to go faster than they should, causing them to wear out faster... and it causes dust build up.

+1 on the dust build up, that's true. A few more rpm's on the fans never hurt, I'm pretty sure the fans/case will be replaced well before they wear out.

 

[LoneSnake]

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/Renagade_Recon/3875aca8.jpg

How about 3 intake and 3 exhaust?

If you have a dremel, you'll be set, if you don't... Go get one.

Looks pretty wild anyone else have an opinion on this version? How much would it make the temp drop to add one exhaust and/or intake?
Thanks

 

[LoneSnake]

Just to give you an idea about how the front looks, right now in my ears and mind, placing a 120 mm intake in 3 5.25 slots sounds like the best idea, what do you think?

Closes quite tight in my opinion..

 

[LoneSnake]

out of curiosity what power supply does it have in it?

Sorry it took a while... it's a LC Power Pro-Line LC6560T V2.0 Titan with a max of 560 Watts

 

[LoneSnake]

Here's a little update, the temps have dropped a little and will hopefully drop a little more tomorrow, but for now my concern is that there is an consistent 5c difference between core 1 and the rest.... :shadedshu
Edit- Another thing I just noticed is the quite low MHz reading in real temp... 2,5 GHz Quad the salesman said

I took out the cover in the 3 5.25's as you can se on the pic's earlier posted.. Then I closed the door, did some surfing, read 57 52 52 52 then I decided to try opening the door, 30 sec. and the temps dropped to 53 48 48 48, maybe I should get that intake up there

 

[Radical_Edward]

I took out the cover in the 3 5.25's as you can se on the pic's earlier posted.. Then I closed the door, did some surfing, read 57 52 52 52 then I decided to try opening the door, 30 sec. and the temps dropped to 53 48 48 48, maybe I should get that intake up there

Wow.

Sounds like you should get some fans and some tools out.

I'm thinking this would work out well...

3 more intakes and another exhaust would help your rig nicely.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Ok 64 process is high for an idle system. 14% CPU usage at idle for me is unacceptable. Restart your computer and do not open anything for about 5 minutes. This will allow all programs that are set to automatic to start. Then go here and turn off services according to the list as "safe". Just be sure to make a restore point before you start.
After that open up CCleaner and see what programs are set to "Startup". Make sure you turn off anything you do not need. Here is an example of mine.

As you can see I have a ton of stuff disabled. When you are done you should also. Not only may this help with your temps it WILL make your system faster. Just remember to make a restore point and if you have any questions post before you act.