The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club

[TheMailMan78]

 

[Chicken Patty]

I cant lol, I tossed the ol tech out the window a while ago.

im running 1600+mhz 7.7.6.15.25 1T atm and 6.6.6. when bumping the volts up , and next week going to be running some sweet Trident 2000MHz sticks... Ill show ya then

I remember some of this from back in the days. Lower speed, but tighter timings gave better performance. Don't remember in details but I do remember this.

http://img.techpowerup.org/100603/Untitled.png

So, you have tried those timings shown for 533 MHz and that voltage? No go?

 

[fullinfusion]

ok thanks, try setting the mem @ 1066mhz but raise the voltage to 2.20v and place a small fan blowing across them for the test...set the timings to 5.5.5.15.25 T2

see if it boots

 

[Chicken Patty]

ok thanks, try setting the mem @ 1066mhz but raise the voltage to 2.20v and place a small fan blowing across them for the test...set the timings to 5.5.5.15.25 T2

see if it boots

That should do it for most DDR2 800 RAM kits, if he can't get that stable then it has to be a board issue or IMC issue.

 

[TheMailMan78]

That should do it for most DDR2 800 RAM kits, if he can't get that stable then it has to be a board issue or IMC issue.

The RAM is rated at 1066 and the board is rated at 1333 is that helps at all.

 

[Chicken Patty]

The RAM is rated at 1066 and the board is rated at 1333 is that helps at all.

Yes it does, doesn't completely cancel out the other option. However, after reading that I would think people would lean more towards IMC. If you can just give that a shot what fullinfusion posted and report back.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Well I just pulled 4 gigs and set it to 1066. I went from 7.8ms to 7.6ms in Photoshop. Not much of an increase to be honest.

 

[fullinfusion]

The RAM is rated at 1066 and the board is rated at 1333 is that helps at all.

so 1333mhz is rated overclock have you tried my suggestion yet?

 

[TheMailMan78]

so 1333mhz is rated overclock have you tried my suggestion yet?

I'm sacred

Guys remember this is my personal work computer. I think Erocker was right to begin with. I need a new mobo.

 

[Chicken Patty]

I'm sacred

Guys remember this is my personal work computer.

Shouldn't hurt it at all, but I understand where you are coming from. I got some DDR2 laying around to get you running if anything bro. Just letting you know and you're local.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Here I am at 1066. Sorry for the large image. I forgot to crop it.

 

[Chicken Patty]

8 or 4 gigs?

 

[TheMailMan78]

8 or 4 gigs?

4

 

[fullinfusion]

I'm sacred

Guys remember this is my personal work computer. I think Erocker was right to begin with. I need a new mobo.

than leave every thing on AUTO!

Just put a small fan blowing across the ram for now and test it.... 2.2v is really nothing if you keep them cool... the 790 chipset is really limiting when it comes to memory, I found that out when I got the CH4 890 mobo, a difference between night n day

your running UNGANGED right? if you dont like the idea of doing what we sugest than Gang the memory and run your mem bench, it is faster ganged but for photo shop im not sure if it will rather like the memory unganged or not.. and the below pix of the Vipers..... dont worrie you wont hurt em

 

[TheMailMan78]

Well I'm going to install Vantage later tonight and bench her with 4 gig at 1066. My old score was 16,563. Ill post back with the new score.

FYI this is what they look like....

 

[TheMailMan78]

than leave every thing on AUTO!

Just put a small fan blowing across the ram for now and test it.... 2.2v is really nothing if you keep them cool... the 790 chipset is really limiting when it comes to memory, I found that out when I got the CH4 890 mobo, a difference between night n day

your running UNGANGED right? if you dont like the idea of doing what we sugest than Gang the memory and run your mem bench, it is faster ganged but for photo shop im not sure if it will rather like the memory unganged or not.. and the below pix of the Vipers..... dont worrie you wont hurt em

The RAM is ungaged. I never messed with that.

 

[fullinfusion]

The RAM is ungaged. I never messed with that.

well it wont hurt anything if you change it, give it a go.

 

[cadaveca]

I'd say if it's a work rig, leave it alone, was there anything wrong, really, before?

Sure, the faster ram speed might make 3% difference...but it's only 3%, and isn't going to affect all applications.

ganged is slower, and ergo, may allow for faster speed, BTW.

EDIT...my normal "cool" clocks:

 

[fullinfusion]

I'd say if it's a work rig, leave it alone, was there anything wrong, really, before?

Sure, the faster ram speed might make 3% difference...but it's only 3%, and isn't going to affect all applications.

ganged is slower, and ergo, may allow for faster speed, BTW.

EDIT...my normal "cool" clocks:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36040&stc=1&d=1275610083

pix is too small to read even on a 24" cad

I know ganged on the older PII's was faster in some marks over unganged

 

[cadaveca]

pix is too small to read even on a 24" cad

I know ganged on the older PII's was faster in some marks over unganged

something with the image hosting here did that..original file is much larger too...

try this:

Ganged/Unganged depends on the app used for testing. Unganged offers better copy speeds no matter what, but ganged seems to have lower latency...slightly lower.

 

[fullinfusion]

something with the image hosting here did that..original file is much larger too...

try this:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36045&stc=1&d=1275611590


Ganged/Unganged depends on the app used for testing. Unganged offers better copy speeds no matter what, but ganged seems to have lower latency...slightly lower.

still small, but is that 6.6.5 ? nice
but I cant make out what the MHz is at 1600mhz?

 

[TheMailMan78]

No there was nothing wrong with the rig. I just wanted to make her run a little faster thats all. So you think the difference between 8gigs @800 vs 4gigs @1066 is only 3%?

 

[fullinfusion]

No there was nothing wrong with the rig. I just wanted to make her run a little faster thats all. So you think the difference between 8gigs @800 vs 4gigs @1066 is only 3%?

MailMan, really... do what most of us do, run what seems snappier to you and leave it till you get a new mobo... Your board is lacking big time what the cpu can really do soooo till you upgrade just run what you feel is best.

 

[erocker]

Mailman, look at my FS thread. There's a motherboard in there as well as a certain Fallout 3 item you may want.

 

[cadaveca]

still small, but is that 6.6.5 ? nice
but I cant make out what the MHz is at 1600mhz?

Yeah, 8 gigs @ 6-6-5 1600. But for $500, it better well damn be!

Dunno what's up with the pics...they were 2560x1600, so should be HUGE, but aren't. Oh well.

No there was nothing wrong with the rig. I just wanted to make her run a little faster thats all. So you think the difference between 8gigs @800 vs 4gigs @1066 is only 3%?

I pulled that number outt nowhere. It's not really gonna make THAT much difference, really. When it comes to games, it's not gonna matter too much. But since you said it's a work machine, and mnetioned photoshop, I think you'd be better off with the larger amount of ram.

I mean, people don't like Windows Performance Idex ratings much, but there IS a reason for them giving more points for more ram. My daily uses barely go over 5GB, so really, I got an extra stick, I suppose, but 4GB was definately slower. Add in SuperFetch, once it learns your uses, and there's a HUGE difference to me with 8GB.