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All of that is dependant on cpu frequency and app/settings of the app. I'm sure that @ 4ghz you need ram to match, but I'm running 3600 only, so can only relate things with that taken into consideration. There's no such thing as a blanket statement to cover performance in any given situation unless comparing with keeping things the same execpt for what you are comparing. See the post above my post...



Your point? Not the same, is it?:laugh: Cost isn't something that holds me back from getting what I want...just might have to wait longer, and beleive me, patience just cames naturally after being confined for so long. Besides, your's aren't Dominator GT's, and probably won't go as high on Intel as these do. Apples and Oranges.

:laugh:
Believe it or not but im running Stock cpu clocks and it's running flawless under any game I run.... but I hear what your saying for sure, Thanks :toast:
 

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:laugh: If only it was possible...although, they do rent-to-own pc's don't they...surely you could rent for just a month or something?





So? I buy what I want...Jealous much? I don't see you knocking Fit's rig...


Like c'mon dude, we're both better than this. I don't even have a job...

not jealous just dont see the worth in it...$500 i could have gotten the tec/water i wanted or another SSD or something else worthwhile i just see no reason to drop that much on a single part that makes less than 10% of difference in any benchmark.

and for the record these sticks are not able to do cas 5 over 1550 anymore i had shots at 1750 back in the day but they are just to abused (many 2.4v runs on them)
 

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not jealous just dont see the worth in it...$500 i could have gotten the tec/water i wanted or another SSD or something else worthwhile i just see no reason to drop that much on a single part that makes less than 10% of difference in any benchmark.

and for the record these sticks are not able to do cas 5 over 1550 anymore i had shots at 1750 back in the day but they are just to abused (many 2.4v runs on them)

You must be really pissed that I bought them for looks, rather than function, then. :laugh: I mean really...all I wanted was black and red...everything else in my rig, besides the mobo, is! Bought the Antec 1200OC...just 'cause it's red black.:shadedshu


And really, my comment had nothing to do with what they cost, really, other than for that price, they best be some of the very best possible...'cause otherwise I woulda gone with some of the Partriot red/black sticks...they are far shorter, and I could used my TRUE instead of having to go with the H50.

I already got everything else that might offer better performance...it'll be nice when they finally release the Crosshair extreme, so I can finally get it all together. If I hadn't bought the ram when I did, it would have cost me $50 a set more!


Mind you, I haven't bought SSD's for the rig yet...was hoping in the meantime they might some out with something better...or something red/black...:laugh:


And really...everything is red/black...even the lachesis I got now...need to replace the keyboard with something red/black too...although I think I'll end up modding to get the look I want. G25 wheel is red/black too, even...:laugh:
 

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You must be really pissed that I bought them for looks, rather than function, then. :laugh: I mean really...all I wanted was black and red...everything else in my rig, besides the mobo is!


And really, my comment had nothing to do with what they cost, really, other than for that price, they best be some of the very best possible...'cause otherwise I woulda gone with some of the Partriot red/black sticks...they are far shorter, and I could used my TRUE instead of having to go with the H50.

I already got everything else that might offer better performance...it'll be nice when they finally release the Crosshair extreme, so I can finally get it all together. If I hadn't bought the ram when I did, it would have cost me $50 a set more!


I haven't bought SSD's for the rig yet...was hoping in the meantime they might some out with something better...


And really...everything is red/black...even the lachesis I got now...need to replace the keyboard with something red/black too...although I think I'll end up modding to get teh look I want.

heh, you want color coordination? you cant handle the coordination!

imagine two bright green patriot sticks in the last two mem slots, and taste the rainbow :p

 

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oh and before people nag me about wiring, that was clearly before the PC was fully assembled.
 

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Even the fans don't match...Pro job!!!


:laugh:

i have a bright orange one in there at the top as well now :p


why waste money on looks, i only care about performance and stability. get a case with good looks and no window, and no one can tell it looks like vomit on the inside.

 
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use WPrime instead, its less... intel biased :p
 
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use WPrime instead, its less... intel biased :p

For some reason my Wprime scores suckkkkkkkkk. I couldn't beat my previous best of 9.3 sec even at higher clocks. 9.3sec. was still slow for the clock I was running. Just not on par, don't know why :(
 

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For some reason my Wprime scores suckkkkkkkkk. I couldn't beat my previous best of 9.3 sec even at higher clocks. 9.3sec. was still slow for the clock I was running. Just not on par, don't know why :(

use the 128M test, i get faster in that one (percentage wise, ofc)


my phenom is like... half the speed of my old xeon in superpi, but its much closer to 1:1 in Wprime (divided by 3, since i got 3x as many cores)
 
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I think he wants you to run the 1024
 

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I don't recall 100%, but I think it was off too last time I ran it
 

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I don't recall 100%, but I think it was off too last time I ran it

run it nao, we can compares :D



(this is at stock clocks/1066Mhz ram with poop timings)
 
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Wile E

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i disagree with velvet.

Not many chips run 800Mhz CL4, and few run 1066 at anything less than 5-5-5-15.

Dont run above 2.0v without airflow over the ram, especially with 4 sticks... they will slowly heat up and cause you to BSOD after several hours (but will pass every stress test you throw at it, since the heat dissipates when you leave it off for a while between tests)


that said, you *have* patriot 1066Mhz ram... so you should be able to up to 1066Mhz (likely at 2.1v, and you may need to bump NB volts like i have to)
2.2v is perfectly fine with no fan on all but a handful of very sensitive modules. And all but the worst kits can do CAS4 800Mhz stupid easy.


1066 cas 5 is terrible even for 2x2gb I have had crucial reds back in the day running 1260+ cas6-5-6-16 on an rb-c1 phenom 2

1260 cas6 is not faster than 1066 cas5, all else equal. The ram itself is actually slower at 1260 cas6. The only reason it may have been faster in your test is either you ran tests that favor all out bandwidth over a blend of bandwidth and latency, or perhaps you hit a ratio sweet spot on your multis.

Remember I am runnin' 8 gigs of DDR2. 800Mhz is max due to the memory controller. If I lower it to 4 gigs I can run 5-5-5-12 1066 all day on stock voltage. I've done it. My question is should I lower my timings or leave well enough alone?

Set it manually. To either 1066 5-5-5-15 or 800 4-4-4-12, and whatever voltage they are rated at. And quit being a pansy.
 
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