*** F@H Tech Assistance Thread ***

[mstenholm]

What is this that I'm to compare against?



Say what?

I've got my GTX 460 at 850/1700/1900 running a stability test. Default is 675/1350/1800. I'll be gone for awhile but when I return if this doesn't crash I'll start the folding client.

We are comparing my new 768 MB 460 MSI to your new card. I left my memory at 1800 and that seems to be stable. Been folding for 4 days now.

 

[msgclb]

We are comparing my new 768 MB 460 MSI to your new card. I left my memory at 1800 and that seems to be stable. Been folding for 4 days now.

Then I would hope my EVGA 768MB 460 would at least match your card. Let's see what it did...

You beat me!

I'm setting my memory back to 1800 and trying again!

I'm getting the same results so I will run 850/1700/1800 full time.

 

[mstenholm]

Then I would hope my EVGA 768MB 460 would at least match your card. Let's see what it did...

http://img.techpowerup.org/100803/FAH-2010-08-03-3-GTX-460-GPU3.jpg

You beat me!

No I didn't. The 10632 is 1 second slower per frame then the 10629 and 10633 which at the time were my reference point.

 

[KieX]

Erm, I keep getting errors and can't seem to fold with the 460's. I downloaded the GPU3 software and installed it but nothing. Could someone let me know how to install GPU3 properly please? Or following the GPU2 guide on this subforum.. what should be done differently for GPU3?

 

[msgclb]

Erm, I keep getting errors and can't seem to fold with the 460's. I downloaded the GPU3 software and installed it but nothing. Could someone let me know how to install GPU3 properly please? Or following the GPU2 guide on this subforum.. what should be done differently for GPU3?

If you're using 2 GTX 460 cards then the problem may be a conflict in how you set up the clients.

This is the main GPU3 forum.
GPU3 beta (nVidia) OpenMM

But I'd recommend you go here.
GPU2 -> GPU3 Transition Guide For Windows + Link To Linux


Make sure you download the GPU3 client for your OS.

The recommended driver for folding the GTX 460 is the Nvidia GeForce Forceware 258.96 WHQL that I get from here.

When using multiple instances make sure you use -gpu 0 & -gpu 1. Also make sure your Machine IDs are different such as 2 & 3.

When I set up a new client I rename the application to fah6.

The only changes that I make are the following.

Acceptable size of work assignment and work result packets (bigger units
may have large memory demands) -- 'small' is <5MB, 'normal' is <10MB, and
'big' is >10MB (small/normal/big) [normal]? big

Core Priority (idle/low) [idle]? low

Machine ID (1-16) [2]? 2 (for the first and 3 for the 2nd card)

Hopefully that will get you running.

This was a recent GTX 460 GPU3.

 

[KieX]

If you're using 2 GTX 460 cards then the problem may be a conflict in how you set up the clients.

This is the main GPU3 forum.
GPU3 beta (nVidia) OpenMM

But I'd recommend you go here.
GPU2 -> GPU3 Transition Guide For Windows + Link To Linux


Make sure you download the GPU3 client for your OS.

The recommended driver for folding the GTX 460 is the Nvidia GeForce Forceware 258.96 WHQL that I get from here.

When using multiple instances make sure you use -gpu 0 & -gpu 1. Also make sure your Machine IDs are different such as 2 & 3.

When I set up a new client I rename the application to fah6.

The only changes that I make are the following.

Acceptable size of work assignment and work result packets (bigger units
may have large memory demands) -- 'small' is <5MB, 'normal' is <10MB, and
'big' is >10MB (small/normal/big) [normal]? big

Core Priority (idle/low) [idle]? low

Machine ID (1-16) [2]? 2 (for the first and 3 for the 2nd card)

Hopefully that will get you running.

This was a recent GTX 460 GPU3.
http://img.techpowerup.org/100803/FAH-2010-08-03-1-GPU3-Config.jpg

Thanks, I'll try this out, hopefully I can start pumping out work this weekend again

 

[DaMulta]

Guys I wonder if I am doing this right lol.

I am running a 9800GTX with the GPU client, and then I also have the F@H CPU client running. Also I have BOINC runnning off the same system maxed......O forget what CPU I have...It was the first 100dollar quad from AMD that has no L3 cache. Nothing is OCed.

Am I asking to much out of my system? It seems like I have OK scores.....


http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=user&proj=fah&name=DaMulta50711

 

[theonedub]

Guys I wonder if I am doing this right lol.

I am running a 9800GTX with the GPU client, and then I also have the F@H CPU client running. Also I have BOINC runnning off the same system maxed......O forget what CPU I have...It was the first 100dollar quad from AMD that has no L3 cache. Nothing is OCed.

Am I asking to much out of my system? It seems like I have OK scores.....


http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=user&proj=fah&name=DaMulta50711

You should really be sticking to either WCG or F@H for the CPU and not both. They are both very CPU intensive apps and should not be running together. You can continue to run the F@H client on the GPU though.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Guys I wonder if I am doing this right lol.

I am running a 9800GTX with the GPU client, and then I also have the F@H CPU client running. Also I have BOINC runnning off the same system maxed......O forget what CPU I have...It was the first 100dollar quad from AMD that has no L3 cache. Nothing is OCed.

Am I asking to much out of my system? It seems like I have OK scores.....


http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=user&proj=fah&name=DaMulta50711

Don't try to run BOINC and F@H CPU at the same time. Most around here would recommend that you BOINC the CPU and F@H the GPU.

 

[DaMulta]

Yea the system is maxed, but everything seems to be doing OK. I've had it this way for over a month now. IF I game(I never game on PC) I have to turn off the GPU/F@H CPU, or it just runs like dirt.

I wish I could tell it to BONIC one day, and then F@H the other. I guess I could run 2 cores on F@H, and the other 2 cores on BONIC.

 

[popswala]

I finally got some diff resistors to do the dummy adapter. I go into display to extend desktop to 3rd screen but it still shows not connected. If i do extend both screens go black and have to reset pc to get back. I think having dual monitors is giving me the trouble. Any way around this? Should I try having one monitor per card and a dummy plug in the middle? I doubt it'll work since the dummy plug can't show I have 3 monitors now. So yeah, I'm only folding on one card in sli at moment.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

I intstalled the client to run F@H on my CPU to start with, filled in all the details except a passkey.

Now it seems to download a work packet, then just sits at 0 out of XXXXXXX <0%>

Any ideas guys.

I also tried it on my GPU and got my same results, and surprisingly it wouldn't run on my 4830.

(from http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=129242 )

Welcome. Your 6000+ will take some time to complete a frame, so, how long did you wait and did you look in task manager to see if your system was loaded? You also need a passkey to get the bonus points for the CPU client only. A 4830 will F@H, but you need to follow the instructions here. If you have problems with step 5, read my post #24 in that thread. Trying to F@H CPU and F@H GPU (on an ATI card, not Nvidia) will be hard.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

pops, do you have both monitors hooked up to one card?

 

[popswala]

pops, do you have both monitors hooked up to one card?

yep. I know on my laptop it shows the display is extended across three screens even tho its only using one. And that shows the the order is one, three, two. When I did that on the desktop. It shows the same screen configure order but I'm using dual monitors so it turns the main display black and turn the second display off. Have to restart to get back to default.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

I don't have much time to help this week, and I've never used dual monitors, but I would suggest trying to move the one monitor to the second card and see what happens. Or disconnect the second monitor completely. You should not need a dummy plug for 2 cards and you can F@H with SLI activated. Next week I could try this with my GSO's.

 

[popswala]

Well I just tried it again since I can't sleep. I have both monitors connected one per gpu. I did the detect displays and it shows 3 monitors in one, three, two order. I look in nvidia control under sli config and it only shows two monitors, one per card with nothing else connected on the other dvi between them. I look under set up multiple mon's and it only shows the two. So only the diplay setting under desktop will show three monitors. I opened fahmon and it says the 2nd gpu: Folding@home Core Shutdown: UNSTABLE_MACHINE then switched to EUE limit exceeded. Pausing 24 hours.

So thats a no go on the 2nd gpu. It took several switching and configuring to get the three monitors to show. I have no idea why only the first one will work and not the other. I tired this when I first got the 2nd gpu before putting on the bridge so that didn't work w/o it.

Any ideas anyone?

 

[headshot119]

(from http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=129242 )

Welcome. Your 6000+ will take some time to complete a frame, so, how long did you wait and did you look in task manager to see if your system was loaded? You also need a passkey to get the bonus points for the CPU client only. A 4830 will F@H, but you need to follow the instructions here. If you have problems with step 5, read my post #24 in that thread. Trying to F@H CPU and F@H GPU (on an ATI card, not Nvidia) will be hard.

It is now working, oh well hex core time at Christmas. I've got the 5770 folding away but the 4830 gives a driver error for some reason. Will have to look into it further.

 

[bogmali]

Any ideas anyone?

Look at where you have your monitor connected on each card (DVI connection). If both cards have dual DVI connectors, the first card's DVI output are numbered 1 and 2 while the 2nd card is 3 and 4. More than likely you are tapping into both ports on your 1st card (reason for the UNSTABLE_MACHINE error). When you hit detect, it should give you options 1, 2, 3, and 4. Select 3 (extend it need be) and hit apply and you should start folding on the 2nd card

 

[headshot119]

Contrary to what I said before, it's my 4830 that will fold and my 5770 that won't.

My only thought is that my 5770 is connected to two monitors, one via DVI and the other HDMI, could this be the issue?

 

[bogmali]

My only thought is that my 5770 is connected to two monitors, one via DVI and the other HDMI, could this be the issue?

Look at my post above yours This could also apply to your situation

 

[popswala]

Look at where you have your monitor connected on each card (DVI connection). If both cards have dual DVI connectors, the first card's DVI output are numbered 1 and 3 while the 2nd card is 2 and 4. More than likely you are tapping into both ports on your 1st card (reason for the UNSTABLE_MACHINE error). When you hit detect, it should give you options 1, 2, 3, and 4. Select 3 (extend it need be) and hit apply and you should start folding on the 2nd card

That's how its set up. They do only have dual dvi +svid. It shows that I'm using monitors one and three. The second one isn't in the middle but to the right of three. If I turn off sli in nvidia ctrl pnl then I can move the mouse way off screen like there is a third one but then my display's get kinda weird. I do hear the fan spin up so it must be active then. I'm currently trying to do all this on my main rig which is my gaming rig. I'll be building another rig shortly when I get all the parts together. So I'll have a dedicated rig to folding/crunching.

I'm just trying to get all that I can now. Plus I don't want to lose my badge that I worked sooo hard for. lol. I do enjoy doing what I can for a good cause and I like being a part of this community.

 

[hertz9753]

That's how its set up. They do only have dual dvi +svid. It shows that I'm using monitors one and three. The second one isn't in the middle but to the right of three. If I turn off sli in nvidia ctrl pnl then I can move the mouse way off screen like there is a third one but then my display's get kinda weird. I do hear the fan spin up so it must be active then. I'm currently trying to do all this on my main rig which is my gaming rig. I'll be building another rig shortly when I get all the parts together. So I'll have a dedicated rig to folding/crunching.

I'm just trying to get all that I can now. Plus I don't want to lose my badge that I worked sooo hard for. lol. I do enjoy doing what I can for a good cause and I like being a part of this community.

I'm confused. Are you trying to set up 3 gpu's on one board, with dual monitors and sli?

 

[popswala]

dual gpu in sli w/ dual monitors

 

[bogmali]

I should work since he has a second monitor on the 2nd card (which takes the place of a dummy plug).

 

[popswala]

so having dual monitors with one per gpu should allow me to fold on both w/o the need of a dummy plug ? i have no idea why its not working then.