AMD Radeon HD 6870 Reference Design Looks Refined, Ready to Market

[scaminatrix]

Don't want to stray to off-topic of this thread though.

Sorry, my fault:
http://arfsc.homestead.com/sorry_dog.jpg

I would like to see a better pic of the card; it looks really uncreative.
Something that's had this hype with nearly 30 page threads involving an actual AMD rep; I feel let down; or at least slightly disappointed by the looks.

 

[Mathragh]

This will probably just mean that AMD is simply expanding their naming scheme:
making X9XX the highest single GPU card family(Cayman?), an go back to the XXXX X2 for dual GPU cards.

this would make sense marketing wise imo, since they had a bit of a gap in their former naming scheme performance and prize wise

 

[Salsoolo]

as i understand, nvidia will not answer this launch through next year at all?

ps AMD needs a new naming scheme, i wont like the future 7870 7850 7770 7750 7650 8870 8850 8770

 

[csendesmark]

I'm confused, so what will Cayman models be named?

69X0 maybe 6970

 

[cavemanthreeonesix]

well i just hope nvidia get it right 1st time with their next gen so it forces amd to be competitive with their prices again

 

[Salsoolo]

according to Bit-tech, the 6870 is based on the (Barts Pro) and the (Barts XT) is the cheaper version.
btarunr's post is saying the opposite. whos wrong here?

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2010/10/08/amd-radeon-hd-6870-leaked/1

 

[NAVI_Z]

whats the big deal about the naming? i thought performance was more important than the

name.as long as it out performs its predessesor.

 

[HXL492]

I hear there will be a new feature called the "Eyespeed". Not sure what it can do though. Guess we have to wait and see

 

[musek]

IMO they shouldn't let 5870/5850 to be more powerful than 6870/6850. And this can mean that top end singleGPU cards (Cayman) from 6xxx will be much more powerful, than in 5xxx line.
And thats gooooooood.

 

[Hayder_Master]

nice to see new generation have nothing improve form old generation, it's just like non reference 5870 factory made,still no CUDA-Physics- and 256 bit

 

[AltecV1]

the new name scheme is stupid

 

[CDdude55]

whats the big deal about the naming? i thought performance was more important than the

name.as long as it out performs its predessesor.

I agree, performance is definitely the main factor in buying the cards. The naming scheme is really just us nitpicking, but the way they named it and the way the performance matches up to the name is different to how they have been doing it in the couple past series of cards, don't see the point in changing something that doesn't need fixing, as all it does is cause confusion.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

nice to see new generation have nothing improve form old generation, it's just like non reference 5870 factory made,still no CUDA-Physics- and 256 bit

why would they have cuda and physx when they are both developed by NV? they have stream for gpgpu and well, as I said Physx is an NV (ageia) developed platform so your post makes no sense at all!!

Heck, I'm so pissed NV haven't got avivo

 

[Semi-Lobster]

If the Barts going to be the 6800 series then what the heck is the Cayman supposed to be!?!?! Is it going to be the 6900 series then? Wasn't the dual-GPU system supposed to be the 6900 series? What's going on!?!?

 

[Sasqui]

Anyone spotted a chart or table comparing specs for the 68xx series? I've seen the ones for the 67xx.

That might help clear up the confusion about "what's under the hood?"

Edit: Here's a supposed "leak" of performance numbers:

Unconfirmed specs: http://videocardz.com/27194/radeon-hd-6870-and-radeon-hd-6850-unconfirmed-specifications

 

[Tank]

i'm totally confused now

 

[Disruptor4]

Or, instead of naming it 6770, they named it 6870 so that when they release the 7870, it looks like they jumped performance more than they actually did in that same x870 segment.

 

[Mr McC]

Or, instead of naming it 6770, they named it 6870 so that when they release the 7870, it looks like they jumped performance more than they actually did in that same x870 segment.

Is that what's going on here? If that is the case, I think it stinks: I can envisage a lot of people not paying too much attention to the changes within the naming scheme and "upgrading" their 5870 to a 6870, only to find that their performance has dived. Given that the cards haven't been released, this is all just supposition and rumours, but I hope you are wrong.

 

[Sasqui]

Is that what's going on here? If that is the case, I think it stinks: I can envisage a lot of people not paying too much attention to the changes within the naming scheme and "upgrading" their 5870 to a 6870, only to find that their performance has dived. Given that the cards haven't been released, this is all just supposition and rumours, but I hope you are wrong.

According to those "unconfirmed" specs, the 6780 will be better than the 5850 ...so given that, yea it'll be a big dissapointment "upgrading" from a 5870.

 

[mdm-adph]

Someone just tell me when the 4830/4850 finally drops to $50 so I can finally go Crossfire.

 

[Gjohnst4]

::waits for reviews, ignores negative comments until such time::

 

[inferKNOX]

whats the big deal about the naming? i thought performance was more important than the

name.as long as it out performs its predessesor.

I agree, performance is definitely the main factor in buying the cards. The naming scheme is really just us nitpicking, but the way they named it and the way the performance matches up to the name is different to how they have been doing it in the couple past series of cards, don't see the point in changing something that doesn't need fixing, as all it does is cause confusion.

1. It's confusing to the consumers
2. Model names normally correlate with price, ie, a 5870 is targeted at a higher price bracket than a 5770, therefore the 6870 is most likely targeting the 5870 price bracket, etc, meaning lower performance for higher price.
3. We were finally happy with the previous HD5000 simple naming scheme: x700= mainstream, x800= performance/fastest single GPU, x900= enthusiast/dual GPU.

why would they have cuda and physx when they are both developed by NV? they have stream for gpgpu and well, as I said Physx is an NV (ageia) developed platform so your post makes no sense at all!!

Heck, I'm so pissed NV haven't got avivo

+1

 

[CDdude55]

1. It's confusing to the consumers
2. Model names normally correlate with price, ie, a 5870 is targeted at a higher price bracket than a 5770, therefore the 6870 is most likely targeting the 5870 price bracket, etc, meaning lower performance for higher price.
3. We were finally happy with the previous HD5000 simple naming scheme: x700= mainstream, x800= performance/fastest single GPU, x900= enthusiast/dual GPU.

I'm guessing you didn't read the rest of my post, but only the first sentence.

Rest of that post:

The naming scheme is really just us nitpicking, but the way they named it and the way the performance matches up to the name is different to how they have been doing it in the couple past series of cards, don't see the point in changing something that doesn't need fixing, as all it does is cause confusion.

I agree.

 

[btarunr]

according to Bit-tech, the 6870 is based on the (Barts Pro) and the (Barts XT) is the cheaper version.
btarunr's post is saying the opposite. whos wrong here?

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2010/10/08/amd-radeon-hd-6870-leaked/1

Bit-Tech is wrong. XT has been the higher variant marker than Pro in ATI since forever.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

Bit-Tech is wrong. XT has been the higher variant marker than Pro in ATI since forever.

This is true, ahhh how I remember the 9800 days, and wanting an 9800 XT so bad but having to settle for soft modding my 9800se to Pro