WCG Badges are back

[Chicken Patty]

Yeah well be hasn't replied.


By the way guys. The limit will be 22.4k every 28 days. Thisis 800 PPD. I think it's right because this way it's not really hardware dependent. Even someone who is nuts about helping out but only has funds to crunch with his laptop can obtain this however, it's not super low to the point that partial crunching with even a low end system will achieve it. 800 PPD can be done by the majority of any cruncher with some effort. Those are my two cents.

 

[[Ion]]

Absolutely, I think it's very reasonable considering the requirement for the Crunchers Helping Crunchers system is 1k PPD

 

[Chicken Patty]

I personally think it's a great balance.

 

[AlienIsGOD]

800PPD is a nice number. I had to cut back the % of cpu being utilized, but even @ 50% usage on all 4 cores I'm still averaging 805PPD on my Q9450 alone. But as I said, Im running 24/7 so even if my PPD dips below that, it would be kinda ghey to take away my badge. It wouldn't matter either way as I would still crunch no matter what, but you guys all kno that since i started back up this year, you could look at my stats and see that theres almost nary a day where my rig isnt running

 

[[Ion]]

Why are you only at 50? usage? You should be able to do well more than that with no system performance hit

 

[AlienIsGOD]

Im having issues with some of my games crashing.....notably BC2 and Lord of the Rings Online (tho LOTRO is buggy in the 1st place atm). Also my craptacular cooler doesnt do the greatest job and I said in another thread that the Q9450 has a bum core that always runs 5 degrees hotter..... Once the weather gets colder towards Nov/Dec I ramp up the utilization. Im gonna look in to getting a better cooler for my Rig and once I have a bit of extra $$$ get the G/F rig back up and running as well.

 

[theonedub]

He's not missing the point I don't think. A few pages back the initial requirement was 100K in 28 days as a requirement (which he pointed out needed to be brought down). The 50K is based on a dual-core full-time and was a way to have that rule try to accommodate the most people possible. 35k.. all these numbers are just a way to bring that requirement down.

Having said that though, there needs to be some distinction between those who are crunching and those who get a badge and leave. Like I've mentioned in this thread I think it was a active in the last 7 days requirement before (rather than a number).

So I totally agree with BP that:

Exactly right!

 

[[Ion]]

Im having issues with some of my games crashing.....notably BC2 and Lord of the Rings Online (tho LOTRO is buggy in the 1st place atm). Also my craptacular cooler doesnt do the greatest job and I said in another thread that the Q9450 has a bum core that always runs 5 degrees hotter..... Once the weather gets colder towards Nov/Dec I ramp up the utilization. Im gonna look in to getting a better cooler for my Rig and once I have a bit of extra $$$ get the G/F rig back up and running as well.

Aha, that makes sense

The Xigmatek HDT-S1283 is good cooler, as is the Vendetta 2 and Cooler Master Hyper 212+

Exactly right!

A DC that does 50k a month? That's what a stock-clocked C2Q or PhII X4 does :wth:

I'm lucky to get much over 20k a month from my C2D, even crunching 24/7.

 

[KieX]

Yeah well be hasn't replied.


By the way guys. The limit will be 22.4k every 28 days. Thisis 800 PPD. I think it's right because this way it's not really hardware dependent. Even someone who is nuts about helping out but only has funds to crunch with his laptop can obtain this however, it's not super low to the point that partial crunching with even a low end system will achieve it. 800 PPD can be done by the majority of any cruncher with some effort. Those are my two cents.

Good call. Think that's perfect

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A DC that does 50k a month? That's what a stock-clocked C2Q or PhII X4 does :wth:

I'm lucky to get much over 20k a month from my C2D, even crunching 24/7.

Maybe that's my miscalculation, sorry if so. I had that based on OC'd C2D E8XXX, roughly 2k PPD. Either way, it's nice to see we now have 800PPD as the requirement as it should cover everyone fairly.

 

[[Ion]]

Definitely, anyone dedicated to crunching should have no issue pulling 800 PPD

 

[Chicken Patty]

Then I think we are good.

 

[hat]

I would still prefer to see no ppd requirement. Just the initial points requirement, and a requirement that shows you continue to return results. My ideal requirements are an initial points requirement (current 100k requirement is fine) and at least 7 results in a week (rather than one a day in case internet goes out or something). This way, even someone running only a Pentium 3 24/7 can have a badge as long as they are dedicated enough to crunch to that 100k mark.

 

[theonedub]

Im fine with 22k/28days, not in love with it, but its a decent compromise

Crunch Strong

 

[[Ion]]

I would still prefer to see no ppd requirement. Just the initial points requirement, and a requirement that shows you continue to return results. My ideal requirements are an initial points requirement (current 100k requirement is fine) and at least 7 results in a week (rather than one a day in case internet goes out or something). This way, even someone running only a Pentium 3 24/7 can have a badge as long as they are dedicated enough to crunch to that 100k mark.

There certainly is some logic to that

Let's see what CP says, I'm ok with it

 

[Phxprovost]

i still fail to see what exactly is being compromised here, with the higher end team members all so desperately trying to keep some kind of arbitrary limit on who gets a badge, this topic must look like a joke to anyone who views it from the outside. But i suppose it is what it is, and i will continue to scrounge together all the cpu power i can to push for this team, but i have removed my name from the user cp as this all kind of irks me now for some reason.

 

[[Ion]]

What irks you about it?

 

[Chicken Patty]

i still fail to see what exactly is being compromised here, with the higher end team members all so desperately trying to keep some kind of arbitrary limit on who gets a badge, this topic must look like a joke to anyone who views it from the outside. But i suppose it is what it is, and i will continue to scrounge together all the cpu power i can to push for this team, but i have removed my name from the user cp as this all kind of irks me now for some reason.

So you are telling me that the higher end team members are keeping an arbitrary limit because we require 800 PPD for a badge? Seriously if you cannot pump out 800 PPD you aren't trying hard enough. My two cents of course. Even a damn lap top does that!

 

[[Ion]]

I agree w/ CP about this, I can get almost 800 PPD from my C2D laptop. A modern AMD X2 or C2D should have no issue doing that

 

[garyinhere]

I would still prefer to see no ppd requirement. Just the initial points requirement, and a requirement that shows you continue to return results. My ideal requirements are an initial points requirement (current 100k requirement is fine) and at least 7 results in a week (rather than one a day in case internet goes out or something). This way, even someone running only a Pentium 3 24/7 can have a badge as long as they are dedicated enough to crunch to that 100k mark.

The whole point of the badge is too have people doing work to help humanity not just to get enough points to have a badge!

 

[Chicken Patty]

Guys,

Since what I care about the most here is keeping everybody happy and not having these back and forths, I am continuing to put thought into this. Here's what I came up with instead. I don't know if it's possible, I've already asked W1z, so I'm just waiting on his reply to see if it's possible to do.

However, what if after the minimum of 100k, the 28 day requirement is runtime instead of points? I figured for those who at least crunch while at work only, 8 hours a day and 224 hours of runtime every 28 days? This seems fair enough for everyone, and it's not regarding points. So whether you have a i7 or a single core sempron it don't matter. The amount of time you run is what matters. What do you'll think?

 

[theonedub]

Run time would be extremely fair. I was thinking along those lines, but I assumed that runtime isn't something that FreeDC tracks. I know its tracked on WCG.com, but I havent seen runtime on FreeDC- have I been overlooking it?

 

[(FIH) The Don]

Guys,

Since what I care about the most here is keeping everybody happy and not having these back and forths, I am continuing to put thought into this. Here's what I came up with instead. I don't know if it's possible, I've already asked W1z, so I'm just waiting on his reply to see if it's possible to do.

However, what if after the minimum of 100k, the 28 day requirement is runtime instead of points? I figured for those who at least crunch while at work only, 8 hours a day and 224 hours of runtime every 28 days? This seems fair enough for everyone, and it's not regarding points. So whether you have a i7 or a single core sempron it don't matter. The amount of time you run is what matters. What do you'll think?

+1 if it can work

 

[Chicken Patty]

Run time would be extremely fair. I was thinking along those lines, but I assumed that runtime isn't something that FreeDC tracks. I know its tracked on WCG.com, but I havent seen runtime on FreeDC- have I been overlooking it?

+1 if it can work

Yeah, I overlooked it while thinking about it.

I don't think it'll be possible. Maybe W1z can figure something out to retrieve the data from WCG.com? Let's see what he says then we'll go from there. Hopefully we get something good out of this since it'll be the only way to completely make it fair without keeping some happy and the others un-happy.

 

[hat]

The whole point of the badge is too have people doing work to help humanity not just to get enough points to have a badge!

With my idea, there is no "just to get enough points to have a badge". You must continue to send in work units:

I would still prefer to see no ppd requirement. Just the initial points requirement, and a requirement that shows you continue to return results. My ideal requirements are an initial points requirement (current 100k requirement is fine) and at least 7 results in a week (rather than one a day in case internet goes out or something). This way, even someone running only a Pentium 3 24/7 can have a badge as long as they are dedicated enough to crunch to that 100k mark.

Yeah, I overlooked it while thinking about it.

I don't think it'll be possible. Maybe W1z can figure something out to retrieve the data from WCG.com? Let's see what he says then we'll go from there. Hopefully we get something good out of this since it'll be the only way to completely make it fair without keeping some happy and the others un-happy.

If we can get something worked out with that 8 hours of run time a day, I would be more than happy with that.

 

[Chicken Patty]

With my idea, there is no "just to get enough points to have a badge". You must continue to send in work units:










If we can get something worked out with that 8 hours of run time a day, I would be more than happy with that.

Good to hear, we are getting somewhere.