Battlefield Bad Company 2 Clubhouse

[1Kurgan1]

No, I'm not comparing the 2 . What I've said is that VIP map pack is brought forward as the result of BO. I've made no comparison between Vietnam and BO. What I did say is that Vietnam was in development for sometime now. Yet to this day hasn't been released yet. However, since the release of BO has drawn near they now announce another VIP map pack . That is in direct response to BO from my point of view.

Apparently you are confused about the whole ordeal. Here read this article. Per Dice, they had no plans on any new maps after Vietnam .

That was back during Aug 2010.

Either way you are comparing a free map pack with a games release, and like I said originally, and you just said now, it has been announced to combat BO, and thats how business is done. When your competitor makes an announcement, you better have something to fire back, can't just lay there and take it.

But if you are comparing the VIP map pack vs BO, then I don't now where sales come in as the map pack goes to current owners, some new people might be buying BC2, but it isn't going to be anything close to the amount buying Vietnam. I look at this as basically just a nice bonus, I kind of like how BC1 did their maps and I think it will sadly change.

In BC1 each map had 5 flags, the 2 end flags are like the current spawn points, you start there and head out, but in BC1 those could be capped. With 5 flags it created much more rotation, and very rarely did I see a 5 cap, but it could happen, nice thing about that was, the tickets ran out really fast and it ended instead of being a slaughterfest like current unbalanced teams are. But I assume since BC2 has uncappable spawns, they will change the original spawns to be uncappable sadly.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

Either way you are comparing a free map pack with a games release, and like I said originally, and you just said now, it has been announced to combat BO, and thats how business is done. When your competitor makes an announcement, you better have something to fire back, can't just lay there and take it.

But if you are comparing the VIP map pack vs BO, then I don't now where sales come in as the map pack goes to current owners, some new people might be buying BC2, but it isn't going to be anything close to the amount buying Vietnam. I look at this as basically just a nice bonus, I kind of like how BC1 did their maps and I think it will sadly change.

In BC1 each map had 5 flags, the 2 end flags are like the current spawn points, you start there and head out, but in BC1 those could be capped. With 5 flags it created much more rotation, and very rarely did I see a 5 cap, but it could happen, nice thing about that was, the tickets ran out really fast and it ended instead of being a slaughterfest like current unbalanced teams are. But I assume since BC2 has uncappable spawns, they will change the original spawns to be uncappable sadly.

Go back and read my reply. There is no comparison being made in the context you are trying to imply . It was announced sometime ago that they had no plans on any new maps other than Vietnam. As BO release approached they are now saying that they are release another VIP map pack. Just after they release a patch update. Something I never recall them doing before. They usually reserve a patch update for the new content. Anyway, it's clear they are doing this do to BO.

 

[1Kurgan1]

Go back and read my reply. There is no comparison being made in the context you are trying to imply . It was announced sometime ago that they had no plans on any new maps other than Vietnam. As BO release approached they are now saying that they are release another VIP map pack. Just after they release a patch update. Something I never recall them doing before. They usually reserve a patch update for the new content. Anyway, it's clear they are doing this do to BO.

I never recall them saying no new maps are ever going to be released. Last time I ever remember them being asked about new maps was in the summer and they beat around the bush about it.

I agree with you on the map pack for BO, but all I'm saying is, your acting like they don't know COD out sells them, when it's been proven before. COD4 has sold about 13 million copies so far and WaW has sold 11 million, either way Treyarch or IF, where as BC2 has only sold about 6 million. So I'm saying I highly doubt any of this was spur of the moment, thats part of competition, you save the good stuff for when your competitor is going to drop a new product, and low and behold, BO is tomorrow and a completely new map for the base game is soon.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

I never recall them saying no new maps are ever going to be released. Last time I ever remember them being asked about new maps was in the summer and they beat around the bush about it.

I agree with you on the map pack for BO, but all I'm saying is, your acting like they don't know COD out sells them, when it's been proven before. COD4 has sold about 13 million copies so far and WaW has sold 11 million, either way Treyarch or IF, where as BC2 has only sold about 6 million. So I'm saying I highly doubt any of this was spur of the moment, thats part of competition, you save the good stuff for when your competitor is going to drop a new product, and low and behold, BO is tomorrow and a completely new map for the base game is soon.

That's the reason for me providing you the link . No, I'm not "acting like they don't know of COD sales...". I'm just stating the events that took place here. Nothing else should be implied. Now I'm off to read the 580 review...

 

[1Kurgan1]

That's the reason for me providing you the link . No, I'm not "acting like they don't know of COD sales...". I'm just stating the events that took place here. Nothing else should be implied. Now I'm off to read the 580 review...

That post was made 2 months before those twitter posts, a good way to make things a surprise is to say new things aren't coming. But I find it funny how that guy said 4 new maps, and now we have 4 new maps incoming.

You are implying they are scurrying to release this last moment because they just now realize how much COD sells, which is shown below I mean as it sits right now, almost all COD's sold within the last 3 years have 2x the sales of BC2, and MOH hasn't sold as much as BC2, so to date all of them have as much sales as both combined, and BO is really got a lot going for it after the lack of dedicated servers (yes its getting it now) MW2 had.

Now that they realize that BO may outsell BC2/MOH (perhaps combined) all of a sudden new maps (although from BC) are coming out.

I don't think they just realized that BO will outsell both combined, I think thats been pretty straight forward the entire time.

I honestly believe they are just realizing that.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

http://img.techpowerup.org/101108/Capture150.jpg

That post was made 2 months before those twitter posts, a good way to make things a surprise is to say new things aren't coming. But I find it funny how that guy said 4 new maps, and now we have 4 new maps incoming.

You are implying they are scurrying to release this last moment because they just now realize how much COD sells, which is shown below I mean as it sits right now, almost all COD's sold within the last 3 years have 2x the sales of BC2, and MOH hasn't sold as much as BC2, so to date all of them have as much sales as both combined, and BO is really got a lot going for it after the lack of dedicated servers (yes its getting it now) MW2 had.

No, I didn't imply they are scurrying to release this last moment. It doesn't change my point of view on the subject . The map pack is a direct result of BO. I've made no other claim than that. So in the end what you are inferring doesn't have much merit. Apparently you've gone through the trouble of twisting what I said (turning it to what you think I'm implying when what I said was clear) in attempt to defend your point of view. Is there anything else I need to clear up for you? Or do you think I'm implying something different again?

 

[MT Alex]

Not to interrupt, but I'm getting tired of all the BS hacker accusations. Not against me, of course, but after damn near every game its "nice hacks" or "hacker" in the chat field. Shut up, whiny babies:shadedshu

 

[1Kurgan1]

It's right there in the quotes, I fail to see how directly quoting you is twisting what you say, just reading what you typed. And thats what I been saying this entire time, is that I doubt EA/DICE didn't expect BO to outsell them, and looking up above you clearly said "they just now realize", it's hard to construe that in any other fashion.

Also, for anyone who wants to see an entertaining BF TopGear video, this is hilarious! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC3seiUcFhM&feature=player_embedded#

 

[boise49ers]

I never recall them saying no new maps are ever going to be released. Last time I ever remember them being asked about new maps was in the summer and they beat around the bush about it.

I agree with you on the map pack for BO, but all I'm saying is, your acting like they don't know COD out sells them, when it's been proven before. COD4 has sold about 13 million copies so far and WaW has sold 11 million, either way Treyarch or IF, where as BC2 has only sold about 6 million. So I'm saying I highly doubt any of this was spur of the moment, thats part of competition, you save the good stuff for when your competitor is going to drop a new product, and low and behold, BO is tomorrow and a completely new map for the base game is soon.

Any one from this club going to run out and get BO ? After the huge let down on MW2 I'm waiting. Of course the price will take 2 years to drop so that isn't the reason. I just want to see if it'll let you go off line and run home LAN games like COD4 does. If not I'll just goof around with MOH and wait for BFBC Vietnam. Kind of looking forward to BF3 but isn't that like a spring release or something ?

 

[Mussels]

off topic crap deleted.

jesus, asking here about work station cards... i almost gave an infraction.

 

[1Kurgan1]

Any one from this club going to run out and get BO ? After the huge let down on MW2 I'm waiting. Of course the price will take 2 years to drop so that isn't the reason. I just want to see if it'll let you go off line and run home LAN games like COD4 does. If not I'll just goof around with MOH and wait for BFBC Vietnam. Kind of looking forward to BF3 but isn't that like a spring release or something ?

I'm sure some will, I personally owned COD4 and World at War, and I just never got into them, except Nazi Zombies, I actually did enjoy that. I don't think it has to do with gameplay or anything, it's just map size, randomated rotating spawns, that really pushes me away from it. It's also why I stay away from Rush in BC2, that modes like heres point A, and theres point B, can't go much off to the side, the enemys know which way you are coming from, now go catch some bullets, then respawn and keep throwing corpses in front of them. I prefer to flank and use team work, and teamwork is hard when you can't spawn together.

**EDIT**
Also Gully, just looked at your link now, I wish I did before, had to dig for that guys posts, took a while to find

 

[Rapidfire48]

Not to interrupt, but I'm getting tired of all the BS hacker accusations. Not against me, of course, but after damn near every game its "nice hacks" or "hacker" in the chat field. Shut up, whiny babies:shadedshu

This is so true. If you are good they say you hack .

 

[Black Haru]

This is so true. If you are good they say you hack .

but my mommy says I'm the best! so anyone better than me must be a hacker!

 

[Easy Rhino]

we had a great group tonight playing. somebody took a screenshot of us all. and then i knifed somebody and ran way

 

[TheLaughingMan]

And as usual. I was the first person killed for no reason.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

ah well i cant complain i held my own against fellow TPUers and had a couple good rounds and we had some good times. Maybe ill get back into BC2 time will tell tho and i wont be getting the expansion so most likely ill get left behind pretty soon.

 

[Hayder_Master]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1133/5160231089_3d5014832a_b.jpg

And as usual. I was the first person killed for no reason.

nice picture LOL, i need took part in next one

 

[Radical_Edward]

Proof!

 

[GullyFoyle]

Map Pack 7 Q&A

Thank you for all your kind words! We have put a lot of work into these maps and we are sure the Community will love them!

There have been many questions regarding the new Map Pack and I'll try to answer some of them right here:

1. Will the maps have similar gameplay features as in BC1 (MEC, Artillery)?

- Unfortunately they will not. The maps have been made with the idea and vision of Bad Company 2. The maps have been suited to fit the vision, gameplay and scope of Bad Company 2.


2. Do you have a release date ready for us?

- I do not have a release date for you yet. I'm however working on to get a release date out for you guys. The whole idea of Map Pack 7 was to announce that "Hey guys, we are working on this". This does not necessarily mean that we will give an ETA, but we will post an ETA when we are 100% sure of a date.


3. Why not Cold war CQ and Heavy Metal Rush?

- The specific thought was to make Conquest even more vehicle packed than Atacama Desert with an emphasis on brutal clashes between tanks. With four helicopters in the sky and 8 tanks on the ground, we wanted to bring vehicular warfare to a completely new level in BC2.

Heavy Metal Rush didn't really fit into our vision, the same as Cold War CQ.


4. Why did you choose Oasis and Harvest Day? There were plenty of other maps to choose from!

- We decided to go with these after taking a look at the Facebook poll posted some months ago. We also listened to a lot of voices from the Community specifically wanting Oasis and Harvest Day. The maps also differ quite well from eachother.

Clarification:

The maps are going to be as you remember them from BC1. Wether there are bottlenecks or not is what I have experienced from my years as a gamer, very individual.

We have polished the maps, improved the lighting and applied BC2-graphics to the different maps. We haven't changed the whole concept of the map so to say.

 

[1Kurgan1]

Very nice that they are adding a huge vehicle map, reminds me of the BF 1942 DC mod days. I can't remember the maps name, but you had to be in a vehicle, and if you were in the middle of the desert and your tank got blew up, you seriously just commited suicide because it would have been like a 5+ min run on foot to any of the closest towns (yes towns, also flags, but each flag was like a mini town). Atcama is cool, but it's too small, hopefully Heavy Metal will be a freaking massive map.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/Renagade_Recon/b2d4e3bb.jpg

Proof!

LOL you can see the smoke coming out of Highway's head ROFL.

And when easy shanked you and ran away I almost died laughing.

Easy: "Oh well *shanks ed* I'm outta here"

 

[Black Haru]

ba. I worked last night

I get out of class around 9. I hope to have someone to play with.

also, I am pretty psyched for 4 choppers.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

If they really want people to play BC2 more than BO than they should remake Strike at Karkand! That was also asked of them back then. 1st day it's release I seriously doubt you would fine an empty server using that map.

 

[Wrigleyvillain]

If they really want people to play BC2 more than BO than they should remake Strike at Karkand! That was also asked of them back then. 1st day it's release I seriously doubt you would fine an empty server using that map.

Agreed and I wouldn't mind a destructable Wake Island 2011 either.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

hmmm