Milestones

[Chicken Patty]

Congratulations to everyone! I'm closing in on my first 100k very quickly now that I have my parents' new pc crunching in the home. You might see my numbers slow down just a hair, I've decided that I can't punt the addiction of WoW quite yet. Just succumbed and bought Cataclysm tonight.

Your help is appreciated Now go enjoy some WoW.

 

[[Ion]]

Congratulations to everyone! I'm closing in on my first 100k very quickly now that I have my parents' new pc crunching in the home. You might see my numbers slow down just a hair, I've decided that I can't punt the addiction of WoW quite yet. Just succumbed and bought Cataclysm tonight.

Not much farther and you'll be there

Your help is appreciated Now go enjoy some WoW.

What CP said, take a break and have some fun

 

[brandonwh64]

My WCG has been running all night and its still not updated my points, ive got to check the client when i get to work. Its on a Xeon 771 harpertown 45nm workstation with 16GB of RAM

 

[twilyth]

My WCG has been running all night and its still not updated my points, ive got to check the client when i get to work. Its on a Xeon 771 harpertown 45nm workstation with 16GB of RAM

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying, but it sounds like you have "ready to report" jobs in the "tasks" tab and that these are not being promptly reported to WCG.

If it says "ready to report", the results have already been uploaded to WCG so they have the actual data. However each job/WU has to be individually reported. I'm not sure what's involved here but it is a necessary step that must be accomplished before the WU will be validated (or before you can see if it's valid anyway - not sure which).

The reporting interval is controlled by the 2nd ("network usage") tab under the menu item "Advanced" --> "Preferences". Once in the preferences window, open the "Network Usage" tab. Look in the top section on the left where it says "Connect about every xxx days".

The lowest value it will honor is 0.10. This translates to 1/10th of 24hrs or about 2.4 hours. In other words, BOINC will communicate with the project and report completed WU's about every 2.4hrs.

In my experiments with older BOINC versions, 0.10 is the lowest value that has any effect. I think it ignores anything less than that but I can't prove it.

This is not to say that the BOINC client will fire up the LAN connection at exactly 2.4 hours, but it should be in the general neighborhood.

HOWEVER, if you have completed jobs and they are 'ready to report', you can force reporting as follows

- go into advanced mode on BOINC Manager.
- click on the first tab (Projects)
- the project will be listed on the right.
- it may be grayed out, but click on it anyway - it should now display normally.
- in the panel on the left, click the first button labeled "Update" - this should kick off communications and result in your completed jobs being reported.
- verify this in the "Messages" tab by looking in the third column for a line at the bottom of the listing that says "Reporting xxx completed tasks, . . . . ." This will be followed by an additional message saying whether or not more tasks were requested.

Hope that helps.
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[[Ion]]

Actually, you can set it to "0". Better yet is Mindweaver's tweak to make BOINC report results immediately

 

[twilyth]

Actually, you can set it to "0". Better yet is Mindweaver's tweak to make BOINC report results immediately

I don't think I tried it at 0. I assume that sets it to report immediately.

I've read numerous times on the WCG forum that they don't like for people to do that since it puts a greater burden on the servers. I don't understand that since the only obvious and additional overhead is repeated connection requests. But I suppose if you have a few hundred thousand people doing that, it would add up in quite a hurry.

Regardless of the reason, they have specifically requested that people not set their hosts to report immediately upon completion of each WU.

As an aside, if you've never done so, I would highly recommend lurking over on the WCG forum for a while. Well, you don't have to JUST lurk. The point is that reading some of the threads can be very informative and you will get a much better feel for what the site admins expect of their volunteers. You'll also get a better understanding of the WCG culture. People who got into crunching through XS and/or TPU probably think that the project consists mainly of computer enthusiasts. I can assure you that if the people who post there are any indication, nothing could be further from the truth. Rather, it is a lot of regular people with a more normal male/female ratio than you see on most computer forums. It's also a lot more genteel than what you might be used to. Even considering how well-mannered TPU users are - on the whole - we look like soccer hooligans by comparison. That's a bit of an exaggeration, but not by a huge amount. Plus, I think you'll enjoy it. While most posts tend to be polite and subdued, there are some very interesting, intelligent and knowledgeable people there. The technical troubleshooting threads are, by their nature, fairly dry, but there's a lot more going on.

I would recommend this to every WCG cruncher, but I think it is especially important for people in a leadership role and especially if that role is as a representative of one of the top teams - which for me would be at least the top 100. We're 27th by WCG stats and 25th on Free-DC - as I'm sure you know.

 

[[Ion]]

0 doesn't set it to report immediately, to my surprise. I think it just lets it get work more frequently. What I read around XS is that reporting results immediately is beneficial to the project because they can get results back faster.

I'll certainly check out the WCG forums, I basically don't visit there. Here & XS are really the only places ATM, but I'll broaden that

 

[twilyth]

0 doesn't set it to report immediately, to my surprise. I think it just lets it get work more frequently. What I read around XS is that reporting results immediately is beneficial to the project because they can get results back faster.

I'll certainly check out the WCG forums, I basically don't visit there. Here & XS are really the only places ATM, but I'll broaden that

I'm not sure how to say this without sounding like a dick, but, it's hard for me to imagine why WCG would care if it got results back a couple of hours sooner than otherwise. Even if there were a believable rational behind that argument, it's even harder to imagine that saving a couple hours would justify the addition overhead. Of course I've never been an admin so I could just be talking out my ass. IDK. I just sounds a bit too much like a convenient rationalization, but I'd be quite happy to be proved wrong.

Thanks for the info buddy.

 

[[Ion]]

I'm not sure how to say this without sounding like a dick, but, it's hard for me to imagine why WCG would care if it got results back a couple of hours sooner than otherwise. Even if there were a believable rational behind that argument, it's even harder to imagine that saving a couple hours would justify the addition overhead. Of course I've never been an admin so I could just be talking out my ass. IDK. I just sounds a bit too much like a convenient rationalization, but I'd be quite happy to be proved wrong.

Thanks for the info buddy.

No offense taken

It seems a bit hard to believe to me as well, but I know that it's the case for Folding@home. Getting results back soon is so important to Stanford that they're willing to pay massive bonuses for relatively little change in time to completion. I also have no idea of the overhead or importance, so there you have it

Glad to help

 

[hat]

So if you sit on a big pile of work units and turn them in all at once,you would lose out on points compared to turning them in immediately?

 

[Chicken Patty]

So if you sit on a big pile of work units and turn them in all at once,you would lose out on points compared to turning them in immediately?

I'm not 100% sure, but i think the quicker you turn in the units you get slight advantage in points. I read that somewhere but got no clue if it's true.

 

[[Ion]]

With WCG I don't think there's any difference in the number of points you receive...now, I know that this is not the case in FAH, but I think as long as you get it in by the deadline you get the same number of points as if it was turned around almost instantly

 

[[Ion]]

hms1193 passes 1,000 We all start somewhere
hat_tpu passes 500,000 Halfway to the big million!
f22a4bandit passes 80,000 Almost time for you to get that badge
brandonwh64 passes 200 Welcome aboard!

 

[t77snapshot]

Excellent stones today

I had to cut my P4 from crunching, that machine produces sooo much heat and is not very energy efficient so it's taking a break for awhile. I am now just crunching my Ph.II 920 part-time and my Phenom 9950 full-time.

 

[Chicken Patty]

Great job everyone!

 

[[Ion]]

Excellent stones today

I had to cut my P4 from crunching, that machine produces sooo much heat and is not very energy efficient so it's taking a break for awhile. I am now just crunching my Ph.II 920 part-time and my Phenom 9950 full-time.

That's totally understandable, when I had a P4 going it drew almost as much power as my i7 for ~1/20th of the PPD

 

[t77snapshot]

Milestones Today
FIH The Don passed 300,000
sneddenraj passed 60,000
spy14 passed 4,000
marlow.durbin passed 2,000
brandonwh64 passed 1,000

Congrats everyone for your awesome stonez

 

[brandonwh64]

Milestones Today
FIH The Don passed 300,000
sneddenraj passed 60,000
spy14 passed 4,000
marlow.durbin passed 2,000
brandonwh64 passed 1,000

Congrats everyone for your awesome stonez

Those 3 771 Xeon harpertowns are crunching away at work! LOL i should be up there soon enough

Also were do i find my bionc points? it says on my page i got Points Generated (Rank) 9,837 (#378,474)

 

[t77snapshot]

Those 3 771 Xeon harpertowns are crunching away at work! LOL i should be up there soon enough

Also were do i find my bionc points? it says on my page i got Points Generated (Rank) 9,837 (#378,474)

There are a couple of sites that provide your bionic points, we usually get our milestones from Free-DC stats. The bionic points are your WCG points divided by 7, so 9,837 equals to 1,405.

I also recommend you check out WCG Essentials Thread for more info (if you haven't already).

 

[brandonwh64]

 

[[Ion]]

Very fancy

What Xeons are these?

 

[Bow]

 

[[Ion]]

brandonwh64 passed 4,000 Moving on up!
rsh5155 passed 200,000
The Haunted passed 150,000 Congratulations!
larrymachine passed 150,000 Nicely done!
msgclb passed 5,500,000 Astonishing work!!

 

[Chicken Patty]

Amazing work fellas!

 

[brandonwh64]

Very fancy

What Xeons are these?

They are workstation Socket 771 Xeon Harpertowns. I will take a screen shot when i get to work today