Intel Accelerating Ivy Bridge Unveiling to Computex 2011

[btarunr]

Intel is preparing to unveil its next-generation processors based on the Ivy Bridge architecture as early as by Computex 2011 (May 30 to June 4), according to Commercial Times, a Chinese language business newspaper. Ivy Bridge is an optical shrink of the Sandy Bridge architecture, processors based on it will be manufactured on the 22 nanometer silicon fabrication process. Intel launched its Sandy Bridge 32 nm processors at CES 2011, in January. In related news from the same source, AMD has also accelerated the production of its Llano APUs and is expected to begin shipping the APUs to ODM/OEM makers in May at the earliest instead of the original schedule set in the third quarter.

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[AlienIsGOD]

I wonder if the chipset fiasco had/has anything to do with this fast tracked release....

 

[Cold Storm]

It really could be a reason. They probably have found that people are, instead of RMA, just turning in the chip/mobo's to wait til Ivy comes out.

 

[pr0n Inspector]

They are not releasing Ivy Bridge processors. It's "unveiling". It will be a demo at most.

What? you think you can have 22nm chips this year?

 

[chuchnit]

Looks to me like AMD and Intel think the consumer is back in 2011.

 

[mamisano]

Seems like Intel is trying to limit the impact that AMD's Bulldozer unveil will have at Computex. Didn't Intel do the same thing with SB? Release it early, at CES to try and rain on AMD's Fusion release? To me, this sounds like they are a little more concerned about AMD's products for the first time in many years.

 

[Velvet Wafer]

What? you think you can have 22nm chips this year?

From my knowledge TSMC stated that 20nm silicone will be available at about Q3/Q4, so i guess its also imaginable that Intel will release their 22nm chips around Christmas this Year

 

[Fourstaff]

From my knowledge TSMC stated that 20nm silicone will be available at about Q3/Q4, so i guess its also imaginable that Intel will release their 22nm chips around Christmas this Year

Bear in mind that Intel's foundries are better than TSMC's. I forsee Bulldozer is in for a huge shock when Ivy Bridge comes live. The Sandy Bridge can already hit 5Ghz with stunning regularity, who knows what a shrink might offer, 4Ghz stock?

 

[Over_Lord]

Intel has its own fabs.

And TSMC is struggling with 40nm, and now 28nm, what makes you think they can do 20nm before end of next year??? (i.e. 2012)

Intel was slated to release 22nm next year around january, and AMD will release 32nm this April or so.

If INTEL indeed releases 22nm so early they must be scared or something that's why they are hurrying, or maybe their 22nm has come out very very well.

Either way, bad news for AMD. How can we expect their 32nm to compete with INTELs much cheaper 22nm processors(hence faster due to higher possible clocks and more transistors and cores in the same die space)

 

[alucasa]

I believe what Intel is trying to do is divert attention, so that their chipset failure gets less attention.

 

[bear jesus]

Does it say they will be releasing anything from ivy bridge sooner or does it say they will be unveiling it sooner?

 

[ensabrenoir]

i believe what intel is trying to do is divert attention, so that their chipset failure gets less attention.

+1

 

[Velvet Wafer]

Bear in mind that Intel's foundries are better than TSMC's. I forsee Bulldozer is in for a huge shock when Ivy Bridge comes live. The Sandy Bridge can already hit 5Ghz with stunning regularity, who knows what a shrink might offer, 4Ghz stock?

i didnt know that, but that probably would enforce the theory, that IB will be released 2011
If its really that much faster, im probably gonna skip SB for it.
im also very interested in how bulldozer performs, i hope the difference will be like the difference between phenom 1 to 2 was... competition to Intel is always good

 

[Fourstaff]

And TSMC is struggling with 40nm, and now 28nm, what makes you think they can do 20nm before end of next year??? (i.e. 2012)

Intel was slated to release 22nm next year around january, and AMD will release 32nm this April or so.

If INTEL indeed releases 22nm so early they must be scared or something that's why they are hurrying, or maybe their 22nm has come out very very well.

TSMC has fixed their 40nm a while ago, and is currently sampling whatever size they are going to do, and according to roadmap, should be ready by Q4. Also, Intel has been using the 32nm for some time now (since Jan 2010), so expecting the next one to come online in 1.5 year's time is within "normal" timeframe.

 

[swaaye]

Yeah Intel has about an 18 month lead on everyone else on manufacturing. That is one of their major advantages and they pump unreal amounts of money at it, because they can and because they know it is a critical edge.

That's not to say that other companies have inferior processes, it just takes longer for them to get to where Intel is currently at.

 

[Over_Lord]

TSMC has fixed their 40nm a while ago, and is currently sampling whatever size they are going to do, and according to roadmap, should be ready by Q4. Also, Intel has been using the 32nm for some time now (since Jan 2010), so expecting the next one to come online in 1.5 year's time is within "normal" timeframe.

what i wanted to say is TSMC isn't doing 20nm, not this year Q3/Q4 as the other guy had said.

 

[Velvet Wafer]

what i wanted to say is TSMC isn't doing 20nm, not this year Q3/Q4 as the other guy had said.

And,what Fourstaff and me wanted to tell you: they will do it. they had enough time.
also, my name is not "the other guy". i aquired enough posts and stars to be called "Velvet Wafer"

 

[hardcore_gamer]

I don't think there is a 20nm node.The successor to 22 nm technology will be 16 nm technology per ITRS

 

[Velvet Wafer]

I don't think there is a 20nm node.The successor to 22 nm technology will be 16 nm technology per ITRS

TSMC skipped the 22nm node for 20nm

 

[Fourstaff]

Googled a bit and I found out that Graphics card and others have a different technology used, I mean, I can't find "40 nm" on the roadmap which Fermi, 5xxx and 6xxx seems to be using. Also, I cant find "32 nm", but "28 nm" for TSMC, "22 nm" from intel corresponds to "20nm" in TSMC speak, can someone clarify this for me?

http://www.cdrinfo.com/sections/news/Details.aspx?NewsId=27033
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiconductor_manufacturing

 

[swaaye]

TSMC 32nm was canned and instead they are going to 28nm. The Radeon 6900 GPU was originally planned for that 32nm process but they went back to 40nm due to the cancellation.

It took TSMC about a year to really get 40nm rocking so who knows how 28nm is going to end up.

 

[Fourstaff]

TSMC 32nm was canned and instead they are going to 28nm. The Radeon 6900 GPU was originally planned for that 32nm process but they went back to 40nm due to the cancellation.

Does not explain why TSMC canned standard 32nm and went for not so standard 28 nm though.

 

[swaaye]

Some interesting info.
http://www.eetasia.com/ART_8800583328_480200_NT_82d4d759.HTM

It sounds like 32nm was a half node whereas 28nm is the more significant node. Maybe they decided they were dumping too many resources at a relatively insignificant step and needed to move on to not fall behind.