The unknown future of PC gaming....

[HookeyStreet]

PC gaming will live on. I simply don't buy into the "but console is 1/4 the price of a gaming PC" bullshit argument.

Look at it this way. You do already have a $300 PC to do your spreadsheets and write to mom. It has an empty PCI-E slot. Instead of paying $250 for a console, spend the same money on the best graphics card you can get for that money. You'll end up with a gaming platform that gives vastly superior graphics, can plug to your HDTV (almost every graphics card has HDMI these days), and comes with an infinitely superior game controller (your $10 keyboard and $5 mouse).

But the console has a great selection of games and more exclusives. I would hate to have not been able to play the likes of Uncharted (1 & 2), God Of War III, Gears of War II, Halo 3, Castlevania - Lords Of Shadow and Heavy Rain.

 

[TheMailMan78]

But the console has a great selection of games and more exclusives. I would hate to have not been able to play the likes of Uncharted (1 & 2), God Of War III, Gears of War II, Halo 3, Castlevania - Lords Of Shadow and Heavy Rain.

None of those games would be worth building a PC for and those "exclusives" span 2 systems. Again there is nothing the console offers that a PC doesn't do better and like I said there are different kinds of ports.

 

[HookeyStreet]

None of those games would be worth building a PC for and those "exclusives" span 2 systems. Again there is nothing the console offers that a PC doesn't do better.

But I like playing all kinds of genre of game, not just FPS. So console gaming suits me more. That doesn't mean I don't get tempted back every once in a while with games like Battlefield 3, that work beautifully on a PC (mouse & kb combo).

You're an FPS fan, so the likes of God Of War probably don't appeal to you. But for such an old console (the PS3), the graphics are amazing.

Lets be honest, is any single game worth spending in the region of £1000 on to play?

 

[BumbleBee]

None of those games would be worth building a PC for and those "exclusives" span 2 systems. Again there is nothing the console offers that a PC doesn't do better and like I said there are different kinds of ports.

in your opinion.

I think some PC Gamers have been playing the same titles and genres over and over they have forgotten what gaming is really about.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I think some PC Gamers have been playing the same titles and genres over and over they have forgotten what gaming is really about.

i hear that my m8 still on covert ops every night that or COD 2(n only cos hes good at 2) or battlefield vietnam ,he is easily pleased lol

for something a bit different get the next batman, im not normally into them but the last on pc with hybrid physx n morpho looked and played amazein n was worth the effort i think its wise to have a go of something diff now n again WOW being the one exception id name(dont do it.).

 

[HookeyStreet]

in your opinion.

I think some PC Gamers have been playing the same titles and genres over and over they have forgotten what gaming is really about.

I have to agree. Consoles offer a far wider variety of games and this is what I like about them.

 

[TheMailMan78]

But I like playing all kinds of genre of game, not just FPS. So console gaming suits me more. That doesn't mean I don't get tempted back every once in a while with games like Battlefield 3, that work beautifully on a PC (mouse & kb combo).

You're an FPS fan, so the likes of God Of War probably don't appeal to you. But for such an old console (the PS3), the graphics are amazing.

Lets be honest, is any single game worth spending in the region of £1000 on to play?

I put in almost 600 hours into Quake 3. Can you say that about God of War? So yeah....some games are worth the investment.

in your opinion.

I think some PC Gamers have been playing the same titles and genres over and over they have forgotten what gaming is really about.

Excellent troll! You almost got me!

I have to agree. Consoles offer a far wider variety of games and this is what I like about them.

More variety? LOL EPIC!

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I put in almost 600 hours into Quake 3. Can you say that about God of War? So yeah....some games are worth the investment.

your almost validating what hes sayin their, you do play other games too dont ya lol

 

[HookeyStreet]

I put in almost 600 hours into Quake 3. Can you say that about God of War? So yeah....some games are worth the investment.



Excellent troll! You almost got me!



More variety? LOL EPIC!

God Of War isn't that type of game. But yeah, I've spent plenty of time on other various games. You're talking about multiplayer. Not everybody only plays MP. Some enjoy SP campaign modes and games with incredible stories. Games like Uncharted keep you hooked until the end.

your almost validating what hes sayin their, you do play other games too dont ya lol

Most hardcore PC gamers ONLY play FPS'. Hence the console being evil because FPS' don't play aswell on them.

 

[Benetanegia]

But I like playing all kinds of genre of game, not just FPS. So console gaming suits me more. That doesn't mean I don't get tempted back every once in a while with games like Battlefield 3, that work beautifully on a PC (mouse & kb combo).

You're an FPS fan, so the likes of God Of War probably don't appeal to you. But for such an old console (the PS3), the graphics are amazing.

Lets be honest, is any single game worth spending in the region of £1000 on to play?

On the PC you can play more genres than on consoles, you can play all the genres. FPS, RTS and RPGs are better suited for the PC, actually proper FPS/RTS can NOT be played on consoles. In the last 5 years, we didn't get proper FPSs, because the FPS genre has been dumbed down so that they can be played on consoles. I don't remember the last multi-platform game that supposed a challlenge. In reality that's what this thread is about, most of the games are so dumbed down that in a sense PC gaming is dying, although we still get the games and look far better. Gameplay is completely broken.

Also, you don't have to spend that much money. Not even close, a $100 graphics card on any PC built/bought in the last 5 years is more than enough to produce better graphics than a console. And let's be honest, everyone has a PC, for work, school, mailing...(and most people upgrade every 3 years or so even if they only use it for surfing and office) so PC gaming costs $100*. Even with that you get better graphics and much better functionality. FPS, RTS, etc play with kb+mouse and for the rest use the controler if that's what you like...

* That's only the start, because how many games do you play? I know that I used to get 10 games or so every year (not anymore because the new ones suck, ports) and at $10 per game (typical difference in price between console and PC games), that ammounts to $100-per year. Add the Xbox Live fee and yeah, sorry but if you are a true gamer the PC is FAR CHEAPER.

 

[TheMailMan78]

your almost validating what hes sayin their, you do play other games too dont ya lol

Of course. I enjoy all kinds of games. FPS is my favorite however.

God Of War isn't that type of game. But yeah, I've spent plenty of time on other various games. You're talking about multiplayer. Not everybody only plays MP. Some enjoy SP campaign modes and games with incredible stories. Games like Uncharted keep you hooked until the end.



Most hardcore PC gamers ONLY play FPS'. Hence the console being evil because FPS' don't play aswell on them.

Thats not true at all. A lot of people enjoy RTS also which is another genera PCs own in. But you guys were talking about innovative? How is Uncharted a blatant Tomb Raider rip off innovative? God of War? Tomb Raider with swords. Please these are just third person shooters and ARE NOT NEW. Nothing at all is innovative about them.

Now what I find hypocritical is a LOT of console owners talk about innovation and yet scorn the Wii. Thats what I find funny. Something truly innovative and everyone hates on it.

On the PC you can play more genres than on consoles, you can play all the genres. FPS, RTS and RPGs are better suited for the PC, actually proper FPS/RTS can NOT be played on consoles. In the last 5 years, we didn't get proper FPSs, because the FPS genre has been dumbed down so that they can be played on consoles. I don't remember the last multi-platform game that supposed a challlenge. In reality that's what this thread is about, most of the games are so dumbed down that in a sense PC gaming is dying, although we still get the games and look far better. Gameplay is completely broken.

Also, you don't have to spend that much money. Not even close, a $100 graphics card on any PC built/bought in the last 5 years is more than enough to produce better graphics than a console. And let's be honest, everyone has a PC, for work, school, mailing...(and most people upgrade every 3 years or so even if they only use it for surfing and office) so PC gaming costs $100*. Even with that you get better graphics and much better functionality. FPS, RTS, etc play with kb+mouse and for the rest use the controler if that's what you like...

* That's only the start, because how many games do you play? I know that I used to get 10 games or so every year (not anymore because the new ones suck, ports) and at $10 per game, that ammounts to $100-per year. Add the Xbox Live fee and yeah, sorry but if you are a true gamer the PC is FAR CHEAPER.

Benetanegia and I agree. Now you know the shit is serious.

 

[Praetorian]

I heard that motion sensing control is coming to PC...
They are already on consoles, but I was curious, except Wii, are there any good/interesting games worth buying for PS3/Xbox360??

 

[BumbleBee]

On the PC you can play more genres than on consoles, you can play all the genres. FPS, RTS and RPGs are better suited for the PC, actually proper FPS/RTS can NOT be played on consoles. In the last 5 years, we didn't get proper FPSs, because the FPS genre has been dumbed down so that they can be played on consoles. I don't remember the last multi-platform game that supposed a challlenge. In reality that's what this thread is about, most of the games are so dumbed down that in a sense PC gaming is dying, although we still get the games and look far better. Gameplay is completely broken.

Also, you don't have to spend that much money. Not even close, a $100 graphics card on any PC built/bought in the last 5 years is more than enough to produce better graphics than a console. And let's be honest, everyone has a PC, for work, school, mailing...(and most people upgrade every 3 years or so even if they only use it for surfing and office) so PC gaming costs $100*. Even with that you get better graphics and much better functionality. FPS, RTS, etc play with kb+mouse and for the rest use the controler if that's what you like...

* That's only the start, because how many games do you play? I know that I used to get 10 games or so every year (not anymore because the new ones suck, ports) and at $10 per game, that ammounts to $100-per year. Add the Xbox Live fee and yeah, sorry but if you are a true gamer the PC is FAR CHEAPER.

Role Playing Games have been on console a lot longer. First Person Shooters are now possible because of Golden Eye 007 and Halo: Combat Evolved.

my Corsair Dominator kit costs more than my XBOX 360. Microsoft and Sony are price cutting again this year.

XBOX Live only costs $5 a month. Playstation Network is free.

don't forget about the rental and used game market.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Role Playing Games have been on console a lot longer. First Person Shooters are now possible on console because of Golden Eye 007 and Halo: Combat Evolved.

my Corsair Dominator kit cost more than my XBOX 360. Microsoft and Sony are price cutting again this year.

XBOX Live only costs $5 a month. Playstation Network is free.

don't forget about the rental and used game market.

RPG has been on the console longer lol wut? So much fail my mind cannot comprehend.

 

[erocker]

RPG has been on the console longer lol wut? So much fail my mind cannot comprehend.

Considering gaming consoles have existed just as long, if not longer than PC's, it is correct. I guess people can't think back before the 1990's.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Considering gaming consoles have existed just as long, if not longer than PC's, it is correct. I guess people can't think back before the 1990's.

It is incorrect. Im thinking more mid 70's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_role-playing_video_games

 

[erocker]

A mainframe is not a personal computer.

 

[Benetanegia]

I disagree. Role Playing Games have been on console a lot longer. First Person Shooters are now possible on console because of Golden Eye 007 and Halo: Combat Evolved.

How long they've been present is irrelevant. many RPGs are much better on PC. i.e Diablo, Elder Scrolls, etc. I hate Final Fantasy so avoid mentioning it. It may have started on consoles but it got better on PC. Also I think many old console RPGs were originated or were also released for the Apple II so...

my Corsair Dominator kit cost more than my XBOX 360. Microsoft and Sony are price cutting again this year.

And who's fault is that? You can have quality 4 GB kits for $40 and 2 GB kits for $25 that's more than enough.

If I had to build a computer similar to mine right now it would cost me $400. I play everything maxed out. BTW the price includes the GTX460, a 3.6 Ghz quad (OCed) and 4GB of ram. Go check latest games' recommended requirements.

XBOX Live cost $5 a month and Playstation Network is free.

That's $60 then plus if you buy 5 games that's another $50, per year. Add the price of the console and we are getting very close to the $400 mark I mentioned above...

don't forget about the rental and used game market.

Irrelevant, you have the same for PC and guess what? It's cheaper too.

 

[TheMailMan78]

A mainframe is not a personal computer.

One of the earliest computer role-playing game (CRPG) on a microcomputer was Dungeon n Dragons, written by P. Trefonas and published by CLOAD (1980).

Feel better now? Still before the console had one in 1982.

 

[erocker]

Feel better now? Still before the console had one in 1982.

Well, in my opinion, PC's from that era were nothing but gaming consoles. Given that, PC's and consoles in the home have almost always existed together. Many people speak as if gaming consoles are this new thing destroying the PC. Nonsense.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Well, in my opinion, PC's from that era were nothing but gaming consoles. Given that, PC's and consoles in the home have almost always existed together. Many people speak as if gaming consoles are this new thing destroying the PC. Nonsense.

Consoles are not. I agree there. Its the one size fits all marketing that is destroying it. PC games are different then console games. The fact they are merging the two is killing not only innovation but over all quality.

 

[erocker]

Consoles are not. I agree there. Its the one size fits all marketing that is destroying it. PC games are different then console games. The fact they are merging the two is killing not only innovation but over all quality.

I remember being a kid and wishing that we could get games on multiple platforms. My dreams are finally coming true!!

This is what is needed from the devs in regards to the PC user for myself:
Higher resolution textures
More graphical settings
AA support
AF support
Online systems that work well with the PC.

 

[HookeyStreet]

I don't really care about innovation. I just want a good solid game to kill a few hours with. This is why console gaming suits my life style more now than if I had a gaming PC.

 

[BumbleBee]

How long they've been present is irrelevant. many RPGs are much better on PC. i.e Diablo, Elder Scrolls, etc. I hate Final Fantasy so avoid mentioning it. It may have started on consoles but it got better on PC. Also I think many old console RPGs were originated or were also released for the Apple II so...



And who's fault is that? You can have quality 4 GB kits for $40 and 2 GB kits for $25 that's more than enough.

If I had to build a computer similar to mine right now it would cost me $400. I play everything maxed out.

XBOX Live cost $5 a month and Playstation Network is free.

That's $60 then plus if you buy 5 games that's another $50, per year. Add the price of the console and we are getting very close to the $400 mark I mentioned above...

don't forget about the rental and used game market.

Irrelevant, you have the same for PC and guess what? It's cheaper too.

I don't even know many people that even have a Desktop PC anymore and if you don't already own one $400 isn't going to get you far. I have close to 40 titles and paid less than $29.99 for most of them.

 

[Benetanegia]

Consoles are not. I agree there. Its the one size fits all marketing that is destroying it. PC games are different then console games. The fact they are merging the two is killing not only innovation but over all quality.

OK, this is the third time we agree today. The world is doomed! Run for the hills everybody!

No, seriously. That's the problem, games well suited for one platform will simply suck on the other. Taking FPS for example, good and fast aiming used to be a requirement for FPS, but nowadays shooting feels like an afterthought, it's dull and almost pointless.

It's as if developers were going like "ok, let's create all these cool scripted events and animations, let's add some cool cutscenes. You know what would be cool? What if we put one contextual melee button and when they press it many different cool things happen... and we could also do bla bla... ok finished, but I think I forgot about something... oh omg shooting I forgot shooting!"