Sapphire TriXX Beta Up.....

[DarkOCean]

Hey wizz please make undervolting possible in this great tool thanks .

 

[xsever]

Sapphire Trixx 4.0 is now available on Sapphire's website: http://www.sapphiretech.com/ssc/TriXX/

I was able to download it without having to enter a Sapphire serial number or anything. It seems they removed that restriction.

 

[TotalChaos]

version 4 allows voltage adjustments on 6950 2GB card finally. W1zzard you made my Friday

 

[Wrigleyvillain]

Nice.

 

[FierceRed]

Sapphire Trixx 4.0 is now available on Sapphire's website: http://www.sapphiretech.com/ssc/TriXX/

I was able to download it without having to enter a Sapphire serial number or anything. It seems they removed that restriction.

This is great for those people it helps for sure. Just wish it helped those who expect identical version numbers between website pages and software UI.

Am I the only one who keeps noticing the off version numbers? It's like a scrape on the hood of the car that no one else can see but when you're trying to drive...

 

[FreedomEclipse]

its taking forever to download the new trixx of sapphires website. 0.50-1.35kb/s

 

[sneaker2]

Hi,

I'm using a Sapphire 5850 card and actually want to limit my clocks. And unlike Overdrive I can go pretty low (200/300) and additionally it goes down to idle clocks if not used, which still doesn't work correctly for me with Overdrive despite having the newest drivers. (The catalyst changelogs said this should've been fixed months ago).
The problem I'm facing is that I cannot control the voltage. The slider stays on the left position and cannot be moved. Once I apply the settings, the card clocks will go to 200/300 as expected, but the voltage will go to 1.088 V and I can't get it to stay low. When I go back to idling again the clocks will go down to 157/300 correctly, but the Voltage will stay at 1.088 V and will not return to 0.950 V unless I activate and deactivate Overdrive once. Pressing "reset" in TriXX does not fix this. I tried the TriXX versions 4 (actually says 3.0.7 in the program) and 3.0.6. I control the voltage using GPU-Z 0.5.3. I'm on Windows 7 x64 with Catalyst 11.4

Any ideas?

 

[FierceRed]

Hi,

I'm using a Sapphire 5850 card and actually want to limit my clocks. And unlike Overdrive I can go pretty low (200/300) and additionally it goes down to idle clocks if not used, which still doesn't work correctly for me with Overdrive despite having the newest drivers. (The catalyst changelogs said this should've been fixed months ago).
The problem I'm facing is that I cannot control the voltage. The slider stays on the left position and cannot be moved. Once I apply the settings, the card clocks will go to 200/300 as expected, but the voltage will go to 1.088 V and I can't get it to stay low. When I go back to idling again the clocks will go down to 157/300 correctly, but the Voltage will stay at 1.088 V and will not return to 0.950 V unless I activate and deactivate Overdrive once. Pressing "reset" in TriXX does not fix this. I tried the TriXX versions 4 (actually says 3.0.7 in the program) and 3.0.6. I control the voltage using GPU-Z 0.5.3. I'm on Windows 7 x64 with Catalyst 11.4

Any ideas?

Using Sapphire 5850 cards myself I can confirm I know what you're talking about with the voltages being "sticky" to 1.088v but I cannot tell you if its a Sapphire issue or not, nor even if it's an issue with the voltage regulators Sapphire 5800 Series cards use.

TriXX is great for what it was designed to do, which is push envelopes, but not 100% solid when dealing with all of the special cases and profile backflips people would like it to do, and running 157/300 idle, 200/300 loaded is definitely a special case. Its not like TriXX can reinvent hard-coded PowerPlay BIOS rules nor was it designed with that intention. I could further speculate why its so sticky to 1.088v but it wouldn't matter because it wouldn't fix your problem.

So my hard truth idea is to suggest you re-evaluate whether what you have is actually a "problem." I know you're shooting for maximum power savings or whatever, but you're not going to lose your shirt over the electric bill when going from 0.950v to 1.088v.

My recommendation: Let it be.

 

[FierceRed]

^

P.S. to above.

Clicking Reset in TriXX is designed to take your card back to it's default "normal" speeds and voltages before OverDrive overclocking or PowerPlay idling, which is 725/1000/1.088v @ stock. Unless you've modified your 5850s BIOS to change your normals, there's no reason TriXX should put your voltage to 0.950v upon Reset being clicked.

 

[sneaker2]

Thx for your answer and good to see I'm not alone.
The reason I'm doing this is because I'm using a video renderer called madVR which does its scaling on the shaders. If you run it the clocks will go high because the driver thinks it's a game, but it still runs fine on low clocks due to the sheer power of the 5850. And I'm actually watching more film than playing games on this PC so it's not just the power saving (not to downplay it, electricity prices are trice those of the US where I live) but of course I also don't want the fan to speed up.

I don't have measurement equipment at hand, but what is the difference in consumption one can expect of the different voltages?

 

[danc]

Is it possible a new version make OC easier because i got extra 10mhz from this version!

Trix is best OC software! Small and powerful.

 

[FierceRed]

Thx for your answer and good to see I'm not alone.
The reason I'm doing this is because I'm using a video renderer called madVR which does its scaling on the shaders. If you run it the clocks will go high because the driver thinks it's a game, but it still runs fine on low clocks due to the sheer power of the 5850. And I'm actually watching more film than playing games on this PC so it's not just the power saving (not to downplay it, electricity prices are trice those of the US where I live) but of course I also don't want the fan to speed up.

I don't have measurement equipment at hand, but what is the difference in consumption one can expect of the different voltages?

I have no hard data, but unless you're paying for your electricity per second, I assure you the cost savings you'd gain going from 1.088v to 0.950v and the videocard fan going from X RPMs to Y RPMs will be negligible.

Also I have no idea what thrice of a typical US electricity bill would be because I'm Canadian.

Perhaps a better question to gauge the situation would be this: If your videocard spontaneously blew up right now, would it be easy or a hassle to replace it? Whether measured in money or time/stress, that answer will dictate whether you should do anything at all.

If you can't afford to replace your videocard should it die right now, be happy with your 150/300 ~ 200/300 setup and leave it alone.

If you can easily afford to replace your videocard should it die right now, and you've really got a hard on for solving this, than an option would be looking into Radeon BIOS Editor (search these forums) and attempting to mod your BIOS to the desired speeds/voltages behaviour you want. Whether this is possible or not is dependent on the brand, model and voltage regulator of your card, which you will learn upon researching RBE.

And finally, also realize that if you can easily afford to replace your videocard, then you can afford the few extra dollars on your electricity bill going through all this trouble would save you.

Food for thought.

 

[cu4now]

I have no hard data, but unless you're paying for your electricity per second, I assure you the cost savings you'd gain going from 1.088v to 0.950v and the videocard fan going from X RPMs to Y RPMs will be negligible.

Also I have no idea what thrice of a typical US electricity bill would be because I'm Canadian.

Perhaps a better question to gauge the situation would be this: If your videocard spontaneously blew up right now, would it be easy or a hassle to replace it? Whether measured in money or time/stress, that answer will dictate whether you should do anything at all.

If you can't afford to replace your videocard should it die right now, be happy with your 150/300 ~ 200/300 setup and leave it alone.

If you can easily afford to replace your videocard should it die right now, and you've really got a hard on for solving this, than an option would be looking into Radeon BIOS Editor (search these forums) and attempting to mod your BIOS to the desired speeds/voltages behaviour you want. Whether this is possible or not is dependent on the brand, model and voltage regulator of your card, which you will learn upon researching RBE.

And finally, also realize that if you can easily afford to replace your videocard, then you can afford the few extra dollars on your electricity bill going through all this trouble would save you.

Food for thought.

Some people such as myself try to save those few watts, not only for electricity "bill" reason in my case. In my case I run a battery backup every watt counts if you want the power to run as long as possible also the video card runs cooler at lower voltage. Clocks seem to make a bigger difference than voltages for power use. I'm one of those unlucky ones that have a 5850 that is voltage locked and love to lower the voltage even lower than default especially on load voltages which goes back to cooler temps means lower temps within the computer case which means less fans or slower case fans can be used. I under volt my CPU while over clocking, now that is the best of both worlds.

 

[sneaker2]

Food for thought.

It wouldn't be that big of a hassle to replace, but why waste energy if I could potentially save it with a few mouse clicks? That's basically all I have to say. But you are correct in that it's not really expensive, even with the high prices here. The difference between running the card idle or full power for 2 hours daily would only be some 20 Euro a year.

 

[FierceRed]

It wouldn't be that big of a hassle to replace, but why waste energy if I could potentially save it with a few mouse clicks? That's basically all I have to say. But you are correct in that it's not really expensive, even with the high prices here. The difference between running the card idle or full power for 2 hours daily would only be some 20 Euro a year.

Roger that, and whatever floats your boat. I just wanted to point out that a PC enthusiast should choose their battles carefully, lest they gray their hair at 30 and wind up in the grave at 32.

 

[xsever]

I'm one of those unlucky ones that have a 5850 that is voltage locked and love to lower the voltage even lower than default especially on load voltages which goes back to cooler temps means lower temps within the computer case which means less fans or slower case fans can be used.

I have a 5770 which is voltage locked. I cannot overvolt or undervolt in MSI AB nor in Sapphire Trixx, but I was able to undervolt ONLY in RBE. I went from 0.9V to 0.82V while idling at 275MHz.

Give it a try and I wish Trixx can support the APW7088 voltage controller in the future.

 

[W1zzard]

APW7088 has no i2c interface, i doubt it will ever be supported. the bios has limited control over voltage because it drives the VID input lines to the controller

 

[xsever]

APW7088 has no i2c interface, i doubt it will ever be supported. the bios has limited control over voltage because it drives the VID input lines to the controller

I know we talked about this before, but if RBE can undervolt it, why can't Trixx do the same?

 

[cu4now]

I have a 5770 which is voltage locked. I cannot overvolt or undervolt in MSI AB nor in Sapphire Trixx, but I was able to undervolt ONLY in RBE. I went from 0.9V to 0.82V while idling at 275MHz.

Give it a try and I wish Trixx can support the APW7088 voltage controller in the future.

Tried undervolt via RBE but can not tell if it worked or not... just got the new RBE it seems to finally read actual voltages rather than just bios now?

I undervolted via RBE a long time ago but wasn't sure if it actually worked, I guess it did. They never added undervolt option to Trixx for some reason I wrote Sapphire asking them to allow undervolt option but nothing it seems. Shouldn't undervolt work the same as overvolt?

 

[W1zzard]

I know we talked about this before, but if RBE can undervolt it, why can't Trixx do the same?

because trixx does not know how to drive the VID lines .. it only speaks i2c or asks the driver to change voltage

 

[Wrigleyvillain]

Whoa. I was still able to clock with Trixx after 11.4 without doing manually in registry too. And if you look further back in this thread you'll see I had a BUNCH of trouble getting the BSOD to go away in first place. Required a new OS install for me.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

W1zzard, do you know if the new 5850 Xtreme cards use the same voltera as 6850s or 6870s?? I just want to know if theres any chance of being able to have voltage adjustment

 

[BababooeyHTJ]

Whoa. I was still able to clock with Trixx after 11.4 without doing manually in registry too. And if you look further back in this thread you'll see I had a BUNCH of trouble getting the BSOD to go away in first place. Required a new OS install for me.

I had to edit two more lines to stop the bsod with the 11.4 preview drivers. Which driver are you using?

 

[blackhole]

I´m facing one problem and until now I couldn't find the solution anywhere...

I have read all the previous posts and I done all the workarounds I found and I still can´t use Trixx with crossfire enabled, with a single card the app works very well...

I have already tried the following procedures with no success:

-Complete removal of the drivers (using driver sweeper, genetix_cleaner, ccleaner...)
-Installation of standard ATI drivers from version 10.x to 11.3
-Change of the "EnableUlps" key to 0 using regedit (keys "unableulps" only)
-Trixx synchronization between gpus is enabled and disable ulps options checked
-I tried every single version of Trixx
-"Disable AMD CrossfireFire Power Settings" option over CCC enabled
-Change the cards between PCIe slots (when single, both cards work with Trixx)

I have tried every single combination of the above steps, nevertheless with crossfire enabled I only get this (crash upon start):

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: TRIXX.exe
Application Version: 3.0.7.0
Application Timestamp: 4d89dbb2
Fault Module Name: TRIXX.exe
Fault Module Version: 3.0.7.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 4d89dbb2
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 00039709
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
Locale ID: 1046
Additional Information 1: 0a9e
Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Additional Information 3: 0a9e
Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

I have two xfx5870 znfc non ref cards (exactly the same cards):

Card1:

Card2:

Any ideas how to fix this ?

Specs:
Phenom ii X4 965
8GB RAM
M4A79T Deluxe
Win7 Prof 64b (SP1)

 

[W1zzard]

new trixx build is up adding voltage control for HD 5830 / 5850 Extreme:
http://www.sapphiretech.com/ssc/TriXX/TriXX.aspx