Samsung Electronics Exiting HDD Business, Seagate Front-runner to Buy It

Frick · Apr 18, 2011

It will be quite some time before that though. Now you can get 10TB of storage for a few hundred US$ and you will not get that with SSD's in the next few years.

FreedomEclipse · Apr 18, 2011

1c3d0g said:
in the last remaining bastion they still have: capacity.

they also still have PRICE per GB

a samsung F3 1TB costs me around £35-40. lets see you find a 1TB SSD for £35-40. You wont be able to.

HDD is dying -- yes but it still has a while to go before the industry decides to drop it like its hot (go go snooOoOp dogg!) In 10-20years time, people will still be using HDDs.

Not everyone needs their PC/laptop to load up in 10seconds btw.

People will still carry on buying hard drives the only difference here is that people now have less of a choice to choose from when it comes to HDDs. and without samsung holding its side of the market. Seagate will most likely take over the gap that samsung left and dominate the market. but even if they did. I wouldnt buy any of their drives. therefore, I am now forced to buy from WD -- a brand i do not trust

crazyeyesreaper · Apr 18, 2011

1c3d0g said:
Hard disks are dead, people. Get over it. Soon, SSD's will overthrow them in the last remaining bastion they still have: capacity.

I say good riddance! Samsung is playing it smart here. They KNOW SSD's are the wave of the future and are investing accordingly.

FreedomEclipse said:
they also still have PRICE per GB

a samsung F3 1TB costs me around £35-40. lets see you find a 1TB SSD for £35-40. You wont be able to.

HDD is dying -- yes but it still has a while to go before the industry decides to drop it like its hot (go go snooOoOp dogg!) In 10-20years time, people will still be using HDDs.

Not everyone needs their PC/laptop to load up in 10seconds btw.

People will still carry on buying hard drives the only difference here is that people now have less of a choice to choose from when it comes to HDDs. and without samsung holding its side of the market. Seagate will most likely take over the gap that samsung left and dominate the market. but even if they did. I wouldnt buy any of their drives. therefore, I am now forced to buy from WD -- a brand i do not trust

i highly doubt that, last i checked $70 for a 1tb Samsung F3, show me any SSD that is 1tb and $70 wont happen, and it wont happen any time soon, this is actually a bad thing for everyone less competition means more likely for artificial price caps, and other nonsense, Im not a big fan of seagate drives had more failures from them then any other brand, western digital is alright but there price to performance is screwed compared to anything samsung put out.
LOL you beat me to the punch AND said it better Freedom good work :toast:

also Samsung F4 320gb drives are damn fast compared to the first batches of SSDs the only thing those drives were missing were access times, the F4 320gb could hit nearly 135+ mb/s read write while many first gen SSD's tended to have short life spans high price and speeds of 150 read 70 write.

dir_d · Apr 18, 2011

FreedomEclipse said:
and another thing....What happends to WARRANTY?? will seagate honor it after they take over or are they going to leave us in the shit?

Seagate honored maxtors warranty when they bought them out.

claylomax · Apr 18, 2011

crazyeyesreaper said:
i highly doubt that, last i checked $70 for a 1tb Samsung F3, show me any SSD that is 1tb and $70 wont happen, and it wont happen any time soon, this is actually a bad thing for everyone less competition means more likely for artificial price caps, and other nonsense, Im not a big fan of seagate drives had more failures from them then any other brand, western digital is alright but there price to performance is screwed compared to anything samsung put out.
LOL you beat me to the punch AND said it better Freedom good work

also Samsung F4 320gb drives are damn fast compared to the first batches of SSDs the only thing those drives were missing were access times, the F4 320gb could hit nearly 135+ mb/s read write while many first gen SSD's tended to have short life spans high price and speeds of 150 read 70 write.

Well said. How two of these would do in RAID 0?

claylomax · Apr 18, 2011

This is the Wd 600Gb Velociraptor:

scaminatrix · Apr 18, 2011

Damn! Just as I had settled on a new favourite (the F3 1TB HD103SJ for a mere £40) !

Well, at least they're finishing HDD's on a high note.

Mussels · Apr 18, 2011

claylomax said:
I just got the Spinpoint F4 320Gb and guess what, it's a tad faster than my WD 600Gb Velociraptor except for the access time. It's sad for Samsung to leave the HDD market.

that sums it all up. the F4's are fantastic drives. fast, quiet, no vibration, affordable. they were flawless, IMO.

damn shame to see them go

7mm · Apr 18, 2011

WhiteLotus said:
So no more HDD, but still SSD. I can live with that.

I agree, brother. For me, it's wise move, as more we give away the spin thing, sooner the SSD will come to norm.

Yukikaze · Apr 18, 2011

Eek. I hope they keep the same product lines and all. I have around 10 Spinpoints in my possession and I love these drives a lot.

Mescalamba · Apr 18, 2011

Well, I had issues with every possible HDD manufacturer that is (except Hitachi, but I have their server SAS 15k HDD, which seems very good). Samsung was pretty much same as others, their 1TB drives wasnt exactly excelent, rather faulty.. but same goes for Caviar Blue 1TB (which is catastrophic drive, died 2 months after purchase) or older Seagate 1TB 7200.12 (Chinese made).

Bad thing is that there will be less competetion which isnt good for customers (eg. us). For now, Im happy with ES HDD from Seagate.

Fourstaff · Apr 18, 2011

Mescalamba said:
Well, I had issues with every possible HDD manufacturer that is (except Hitachi, but I have their server SAS 15k HDD, which seems very good). Samsung was pretty much same as others, their 1TB drives wasnt exactly excelent, rather faulty.. but same goes for Caviar Blue 1TB (which is catastrophic drive, died 2 months after purchase) or older Seagate 1TB 7200.12 (Chinese made).

Bad thing is that there will be less competetion which isnt good for customers (eg. us). For now, Im happy with ES HDD from Seagate.

I don't know how you manage to kill so many harddrive in such a short period of time. My harddisks always last for a minimum of 5 years, perhaps I don't have enough harddrives?

Mussels · Apr 18, 2011

Fourstaff said:
I don't know how you manage to kill so many harddrive in such a short period of time. My harddisks always last for a minimum of 5 years, perhaps I don't have enough harddrives?

none of my drives that arent samsung are still alive. having ambients that hit 45C each summer (outdoors, can spike higher indoors if you leave doors/windows shut and a PC on) shows you what drives are reliable and what arent.

Fourstaff · Apr 18, 2011

Mussels said:
none of my drives that arent samsung are still alive. having ambients that hit 45C each summer (outdoors, can spike higher indoors if you leave doors/windows shut and a PC on) shows you what drives are reliable and what arent.

Note to self: don't move to Aus without proper air conditioning. Manufacturers should start testing their drives up to 60-70c region.

Mussels · Apr 18, 2011

Fourstaff said:
Note to self: don't move to Aus without proper air conditioning. Manufacturers should start testing their drives up to 60-70c region.

and this is why i dislike the ranting some people have on these forums.

"X overclock is easy! everyone can do it!"
"this hardware never dies, its really relibable!"
"these drives/CPU's/video cards arent hot, its FINE for me in my air conditioned room in the swiss alps/canada!"

so far, no ones made kangaroo proof hard mechanical hard drives. guess we gotta wait for cheaper SSD's on that one.

v12dock · Apr 18, 2011

God please no! :cry:

Seagate make the worst hard drives

FreedomEclipse · Apr 18, 2011

I wonder why WD didnt try to get in on it first.

happita · Apr 18, 2011

1c3d0g said:
Hard disks are dead, people. Get over it. Soon, SSD's will overthrow them in the last remaining bastion they still have: capacity.

I say good riddance! Samsung is playing it smart here. They KNOW SSD's are the wave of the future and are investing accordingly.

Ehhh, I don't know. SSDs have limitations on how many times you can read/write on them right? That seems to be the weakness, especially when they shrunk the manufacturing process to 28nm....and soon it will be smaller... :confused:

Mussels · Apr 18, 2011

happita said:
Ehhh, I don't know. SSDs have limitations on how many times you can read/write on them right? That seems to be the weakness, especially when they shrunk the manufacturing process to 28nm....and soon it will be smaller...

eventually the limits will be higher than mechanical drives are now, remember that floppies and mechanical drives had this same limitation when they were new, as well.

until that happens however, i am very very saddened when good HDD makers quit the business.

TheLaughingMan · Apr 18, 2011

Kkkkkkkkkaaaaaaaahhhhhnnnnnn!!!!!!

Fourstaff · Apr 18, 2011

FreedomEclipse said:
I wonder why WD didnt try to get in on it first.

They just bought Hitachi, so I don't think they are ready to buy again.

Isenstaedt · Apr 18, 2011

What's next? Seagate buying WD so we all end up with Seagate HDDs?

hv43082 · Apr 18, 2011

Better start grabbing them F4 before they are gone son!

Maban · Apr 18, 2011

Really too bad, they made the best value drives available. I still want to see a 640GB+ F4 before they sell. If Seagate buys it, then I really hope they incorporate the low noise aspect of the F3's. I had a 72.9 (or 72.10 I don't remember which) 500GB and a 72.12 500GB and they were both ridiculously loud seekers.

Wile E · Apr 18, 2011

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Samsungs are currently my favorite drives. My 9TB server is exclusively Samsung drives because they have impressed me so much with their performance and reliability. Guess I also need to grab a few more 2TB F4's while they are still available. I has a sad.

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