Thunderbolt Successor to Boast of 50 Gbps Bandwidth

ERazer · Apr 29, 2011

thunderising said:
LOL I was just trolling, like

"I'm 1st to comment" and "Intel your pricing Sucks" kinda post..

but ended up with random non-sensical gibberish..

what really made my day was reading you guys reply, top class +1000

are you asking to be banned?

yogurt_21 · Apr 29, 2011

tigger said:
It seriously makes me laugh when i see 2TB usb2 drives, how long would it take to dump a TB of stuff on it, at least an hour i reckon. Usb2 is now only for peripherals and not usb hdds. Now a usb3 external hdd thats a differant matter

17.73 hours is how long it would take to write 1.87TB (max capacity after formatting) to my external 2TB drive. Last I clocked it was maxing at 30MB/s write.

now compare that to the 2MB/s transfer I get over wireless from my primary pc to my nas and you'll see why even at usb 2.0 the drive is still a faster solution for what I use it for.

odd to see them tout a thunderbolt successor by 2015 when we probabally wont see thunderbolt being used widespread until 2014 lol. And the article makes it seem like they aren't compatible.

usb successors are nice and all but I'd still like to see fiber become more mainstream in networking before an addon cable replacement.

btarunr · Apr 29, 2011

thunderising said:
LOL I was just trolling, like

"I'm 1st to comment" and "Intel your pricing Sucks" kinda post..

but ended up with random non-sensical gibberish..

what really made my day was reading you guys reply, top class +1000

Thanks for letting me know that you've made a habit out of pulling off such things. Next time I'll send you on a vacation as a token of appreciation of your "top class +1000" trolling skills.

digibucc · Apr 29, 2011

thunderising said:
what really made my day was reading you guys reply, top class +1000

lol that made your day?

your life sucks! hahaha!

OneCool · Apr 29, 2011

They changed the name to from Lightpeak to Thunderbolt do to the fact Intel had/having problems with the fiber optics so they went with copper strands instead for now.
Im guessing the successor to Thunderbolt will actually use fiber optics?

Loving the USB 3.0 speeds though

Completely Bonkers · Apr 29, 2011

TBH, I would rather have any or all of the following "standards" before I get excited about fibre-bolt:

1./ 10G ethernet in practice at consumer prices
2./ "Real" wireless N and G that can truly deliver 54/300 Mbs. I dont know about you, but no matter what the connection says the theoretic value is... I get nowhere near those speeds. Nowhere near, and possibly due to...
3./ More, wider, wireless 802.11 channels. Depending on your country, there are 9-14 channels available. OK in 1999. But not in 2011. And because of channel "spread", use of one channels interferes with the neighbouring 2 channels. Even worse for 300N where the spread covers 5 channels.

A quick search using inSSIDer reveals 51 WLANs that my laptop can "see" from my apartment. So many overlapping, contending channels. And of course those 300N channels are hogging/stealing 5 channels at a time. No wonder my WLAN speeds are so lousy. We need at least 21 channels... CLEAR the radio space and put N+ in a new range. I HATE that the faster N is creating the contention and is blocking the already slow G channels. Big BOOH! to those technicians that designed N in the B/G space.

cheesy999 · Apr 29, 2011

Completely Bonkers said:
Even worse for 300N where the spread covers 5 channels.

disagree with that, in our house our wireless g router manages to take up channels 1-5 so its not just 300N

my neighbour takes up 8-12 and my other neighbours house is too far away for it too matter

slyfox2151 · Apr 29, 2011

Completely Bonkers said:
TBH, I would rather have any or all of the following "standards" before I get excited about fibre-bolt:

2./ "Real" wireless N and G that can truly deliver 54/300 Mbs. I dont know about you, but no matter what the connection says the theoretic value is... I get nowhere near those speeds. Nowhere near, and possibly due to...

Wireless G hits 54mbps in my house....
54mbps.... is both combined upload/download, so devide it by 2 you get
27mbps max download speed or 3.375MBps... now of course when you download, you also need to upload at the same time to tell the other end you are receiving the information.

now there is also overhead to deal with as well such as wireless security.
this works out to be around 2.5MBps effective speed for wireless G... im fairly certain most people can get that from there wireless G connections within 10 meters of the devices.

3./ More, wider, wireless 802.11 channels. Depending on your country, there are 9-14 channels available. OK in 1999. But not in 2011. And because of channel "spread", use of one channels interferes with the neighbouring 2 channels. Even worse for 300N where the spread covers 5 channels.

im also very confident you can operate wireless N in the 5Ghz range instead of 2.5 that B/G are in..... these other devices should have no effect.

Completely Bonkers · Apr 30, 2011

cheesy999 said:
disagree with that, in our house our wireless g router manages to take up channels 1-5 so its not just 300N. My neighbour takes up 8-12 and my other neighbours house is too far away for it too matter

Cheesy, by design, N uses more channels than g. So while you agree g "uses" more than just the one channel due to channel spread/interference, a N Access Point spoils so much more of the available channels. You are lucky you have only 1 or 2 other "foreign" APs in your airspace. I have 51! Now imagine THAT for a noisy congested wifi network!

slyfox2151 said:
Wireless G hits 54mbps in my house....
54mbps.... is both combined upload/download, so devide it by 2 you get
27mbps max download speed or 3.375MBps... now of course when you download, you also need to upload at the same time to tell the other end you are receiving the information.

now there is also overhead to deal with as well such as wireless security.
this works out to be around 2.5MBps effective speed for wireless G... im fairly certain most people can get that from there wireless G connections within 10 meters of the devices.

im also very confident you can operate wireless N in the 5Ghz range instead of 2.5 that B/G are in..... these other devices should have no effect.

sly, please remember my usage-scenario, 51 visible Access Points! Now remember channel contention. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contention-based_protocol I can only/send receive on my channel when the "air is clear". Work that into your numbers! And I can't change the operating channels of OTHER people's APs. And anyone with an N Access Point that wants g compatibility needs to stick in the regular g band!

Please, anyone wanting to comment further on wifi then do read up a bit and also try Metageeks inSSIDer. You'll gain a lot of insight! You guys are lucky to operate in non-congested airspaces. I invite you to try it here, where some of those N networks with boosters, are business networks with multiple people operating on it, and are consequently saturating the available channels.

The legacy 802.11 channel spectrum is a nightmare.

micropage7 · Apr 30, 2011

thunderising said:
LOL I was just trolling, like

"I'm 1st to comment" and "Intel your pricing Sucks" kinda post..

but ended up with random non-sensical gibberish..

what really made my day was reading you guys reply, top class +1000

sorry man if you trolling you better prepare to get banned. you know thats kinda annoying just place post and just write '1st reply' '2nd reply' like other forums, if you wanna do that please not here

Over_Lord · Apr 30, 2011

btarunr said:
Thanks for letting me know that you've made a habit out of pulling off such things. Next time I'll send you on a vacation as a token of appreciation of your "top class +1000" trolling skills.

dont sweat dude chill, why u so serious. i havn't trolled before, wont do it again. ok?

btarunr · Apr 30, 2011

thunderising said:
dont sweat dude chill, why u so serious. i havn't trolled before, wont do it again. ok?

Random forum members hardly make me sweat. It takes just a couple of clicks to get rid of the erratic ones.

Deleted member 3 · May 2, 2011

thunderising said:
dont sweat dude chill, why u so serious. i havn't trolled before, wont do it again. ok?

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/announcement.php?f=14

No trolling. It's not that hard to follow the guidelines. If you need to troll go play on gn.

Funtoss · May 2, 2011

Imsochobo!! YOUR INTERNET IS THE BOMB! OMG!!!! DO WANT! which isp? ^__^

Deleted member 3 · May 2, 2011

Funtoss said:
Imsochobo!! YOUR INTERNET IS THE BOMB! OMG!!!! DO WANT! which isp? ^__^

Did I not just link to the guidelines? Stay on topic please. PM him about his ISP and then conclude you can't get the same interwebz at home.

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