AMD FX 8 Core and 4 Core Processor Systems Seen Running at E3

[cdawall]

Well, not on a stock air cooler your not. The right liquid cooler or thermal electric you sure can.

Though you can actually get a degree or two under room ambient on high-end air in a highly ventilated case. Depends on humidity and how much air you got moving through the cooler and case itself. So you will cool to the ambient of the air being forced over the cooler, and that can indeed be slightly less than the air temps in a room with stagnate air. To a point anyway. lol

when you can figure out how you get cpu temps below the temp of the room come tell me because it is not possible. google thermodynamics.

 

[Strider]

when you can figure out how you get cpu temps below the temp of the room come tell me because it is not possible. google thermodynamics.

Moving air can be cooler than standing air. The air that is actually being moved over your heatsink can indeed be cooler than the ambient air temperature in the room the PC is located in.

I did not say you can cool below the air temperature, I said the air temperature can be lower when it's moving than when stagnate. So you can indeed cool slightly under the rooms ambient temperature outside the case.

Thanks

 

[CDdude55]

Considering all mainstream coolers use the air around your computer in one way or another (even watercooled) i don't see how you can get below that. You'll generally always be hotter then your ambient temps.

The only exception to that would be extreme cooling that takes the parts below zero.

 

[CDdude55]

Moving air can be cooler than standing air. The air that is actually being moved over your heatsink can indeed be cooler than the ambient air temperature in the room the PC is located in.

I did not say you can cool below the air temperature, I said the air temperature can be lower when it's moving than when stagnate. So you can indeed cool slightly under the rooms ambient temperature outside the case.

Thanks

I don't understand, when you move hot air, it's still hot air. Fans don't cool the air down,

 

[cdawall]

Moving air can be cooler than standing air. The air that is actually being moved over your heatsink can indeed be cooler than the ambient air temperature in the room the PC is located in.

I did not say you can cool below the air temperature, I said the air temperature can be lower when it's moving than when stagnate. So you can indeed cool slightly under the rooms ambient temperature outside the case.

Thanks

no its not. moving air has the same temp as stationary. also fans increase air temps electric motor add heat into the air.

 

[alexsubri]

ooohh boy! I've been waiting all year for this, can`t wait till the release and some benchies! This is my must have 2011! What was the default clock speed?

 

[cadaveca]

however they have a little more respect for agreements signed with AMD

What does that mean?



What does that have to do with how CPUs are available in retail? Um...

 

[cdawall]

What does that mean?



What does that have to do with how CPUs are available in retail? Um...

the parts all come out at pretty much the same time. these chips are in the hands of people on every major country there. the reason you see so many chinese BS reviews 2 months early is they dont care about NDA.

 

[mastrdrver]

Cdawall is right about the sensors. They do read correctly.........at 19C. Outside of that, who knows.

no its not. moving air has the same temp as stationary. also fans increase air temps electric motor add heat into the air.

Crazy I tell you! Where do you come up with your stuff?

 

[cadaveca]

the reason you see so many chinese BS reviews 2 months early is they dont care about NDA.

Um, this thread is about the systems and benchmarks shown @ E3 by AMD, not unsanctioned reviews...

Doesn't always take signing an NDA to get pre-release hardware.

 

[seronx]

http://twitter.com/#!/seronx/status/78302032339013632

I asked the E3 AMD guys

 

[cdawall]

Cdawall is right about the sensors. They do read correctly.........at 19C. Outside of that, who knows.



Crazy I tell you! Where do you come up with your stuff?

pure craziness man

Um, this thread is about the systems and benchmarks shown @ E3 by AMD, not unsanctioned reviews...

Doesn't always take signing an NDA to get pre-release hardware.

man i never knew that one of those been there done that things and E3 is kind of a big deal hence why things go there first.

 

[cadaveca]

E3 is kind of a big deal hence why things go there first.

Question is, where do they go after?

Temp sensors aren't made to report correct temperatures @ idle...they are made to work @ temps that might harm the CPU, so that it throttles correctly, and doesn't blow out the magic blue smoke.

 

[cdawall]

Question is, where do they go after?

Temp sensors aren't made to report correct temperatures @ idle...they are made to work @ temps that might harm the CPU, so that it throttles correctly, and doesn't blow out the magic blue smoke.

most are returned to AMD as part of their NDA's there are some that slip out and others that get "destroyed" by overclockers.


my meaning of the temp sensor being correct at 65C was that. these chips silicone wise are still ok all the way up to 100C. however this will lead to heavy degradation. AMD rates there chips to temp XX because they have tested the chips to run at that temp stable and last until the warranty is up.

 

[seronx]

most are returned to AMD as part of their NDA's there are some that slip out and others that get "destroyed" by overclockers.


my meaning of the temp sensor being correct at 65C was that. these chips silicone wise are still ok all the way up to 100C. however this will lead to heavy degradation. AMD rates there chips to temp XX because they have tested the chips to run at that temp stable and last until the warranty is up.

I want to ask where was this 65*C coming from because the temps we saw are all 19*C-20.5*C

 

[cdawall]

I want to ask where was this 65*C coming from because the temps we saw are all 19*C-20.5*C

because i know what the chips are rated at and what the temp sensors specs are.

 

[cadaveca]

most are returned to AMD as part of their NDA's there are some that slip out and others that get "destroyed" by overclockers.

Ever read a real NDA? Most of them say that disclosure of the NDA terms themselves is a breach of the NDA.

First rule of Fight Club...

I've got a fair bit of pre-release hardware with no NDA, but not from AMD directly. I only wish. I don't need an NDA to keep my lips tight.


And yeah, I know what you were on about with the sensor. I think perhaps I might understand a bit more than the avg joe.

 

[Wile E]

Moving air can be cooler than standing air. The air that is actually being moved over your heatsink can indeed be cooler than the ambient air temperature in the room the PC is located in.

I did not say you can cool below the air temperature, I said the air temperature can be lower when it's moving than when stagnate. So you can indeed cool slightly under the rooms ambient temperature outside the case.

Thanks

No it can't. Moving air is not cooler. Moving air makes you feel cooler because it is pulling heat away from your body as it moves over you, not because it is actually cooler.

lol at 6.1 I would fail as a dwarf.

Yeah, but you're ugly enough to be one.

 

[erocker]

Stay on topic.

 

[MikeMurphy]

After building up to this degree of suspense, if AMD fail, it'll be the most Ultimate Supreme EPIC & Unforgivable Fail!
It doesn't have to be a mega leap in technology, it'll be enough if it at least looks SB straight in the eye, but dammit, it better not be fail!!

I think you lack appreciation of just how quickly Intel has progressed with nehalem and sandy bridge. If BD comes close to single and multi-threaded nehalem performance it will be a huge 'win'. Forget SB performance.

 

[TheLaughingMan]

I really wanna see one of the test chips up close and personal. Must remember to beg and/or bribe the right people in the next few hours.

I expect the top of the line FX to fall just above the 2600K in everything, but video encoding. I hope the FX completely blows it out of the water and falls just under the upcoming 2011 chips, but that is a glorious pipe dream.

I also don't care how it gets done either. Modules, cores, hyper threads, default clock rates, blah blah blah. In the end, it is chip vs. chip with AMD in a corner. And like a trapped mouse, AMD better bear its claws and teeth and fight for their lives.

P.S. Dear AMD, advertisements work best when posted on sites other than your own. Just saying.

 

[kid41212003]

No one seemed to notice that even though the frequency for each core did go down, but the voltage did not...

 

[slyfox2151]

No one seemed to notice that even though the frequency for each core did go down, but the voltage did not...

if you read all the posts you would have noticed a few people have said this, its also likely a software glitch, or even a bug in the bios.

 

[cadaveca]

Dear AMD, advertisements work best when posted on sites other than your own. Just saying.

Whadda you mean? They use Facebook and Twitter! What else is there?

 

[seronx]

Whadda you mean? They use Facebook and Twitter! What else is there?

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