Electronic Arts' Massive 2012 $1.6m Battlefield 3 Tournament: Consoles Yes, PC No

[Easy Rhino]

well then don't complain.

 

[ThorAxe]

people who have a console in the eyes of EA are money because the majority is synonymous with high earnings, the PC community is a minority this does not carry money ...

Not true:

And then come the non-GAAP revenue figures. It’s all bloody confusing, really. But it breaks down to the 360 bringing in $152m, the PS3 coughing up $111m, and the PC ruling the roost with $154m. This breaks down to the PC and 360 both providing 29% of total non-GAAP revenue, while the PS3 offers 21%. The rest is made up by Wii (3%), PS2 (1%), mobile (11%), PSP (1%), DS (1%) and the mysterious “other” at 4%.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/07/27/eas-non-gaap-figures-pc-beating-consoles/

 

[entropy13]

Not true:

And then come the non-GAAP revenue figures. It’s all bloody confusing, really. But it breaks down to the 360 bringing in $152m, the PS3 coughing up $111m, and the PC ruling the roost with $154m. This breaks down to the PC and 360 both providing 29% of total non-GAAP revenue, while the PS3 offers 21%. The rest is made up by Wii (3%), PS2 (1%), mobile (11%), PSP (1%), DS (1%) and the mysterious “other” at 4%.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/07/27/eas-non-gaap-figures-pc-beating-consoles/

Yeah, and if we're following that the "PC market" is way smaller than the consoles, that would actually mean that on a per capita basis PC gamers were worth much more to them.

 

[n-ster]

When talking consoles, you usually add Xbox 360 + PS3 + Wii etc together... THEN compare it to PC.

What's GAAP?

If you look at the more accountable accounting of the GAAP figures, the PC trails with $205m to the 360′s $345m and PS3′s $308m.

653m$ with the 2 main consoles, vs 205m$ with PC. That's over 3:1

 

[entropy13]

653m$ with the 2 main consoles, vs 205m$ with PC. That's over 3:1

And is there a 3:1 consoles to PC ratio as well?

 

[pr0n Inspector]

The world is not ending. It's a video game for Xenu's sake.

 

[ThorAxe]

When talking consoles, you usually add Xbox 360 + PS3 + Wii etc together... THEN compare it to PC.

What's GAAP?



653m$ with the 2 main consoles, vs 205m$ with PC. That's over 3:1

That's only EA's earnings. As an industry PC Gaming is crushing the combined console revenue:

"In almost all countries, PC gaming in one of its many guises is the dominant form of gaming."

United States:

$4.3 billion traditional PC games
$2.6 billion MMO’s

Traditional PC Games including MMOs = $6.9 Billion

$2.8 billion Casual Websites
$1.8 billion Social networks

PC Casual Websites + Social networks = $4.6 Billion

Total PC Revenue = $11.5 Billion

$2.1 billion Mobile devices

All Consoles combined = $8.0 billion

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/07/05/pcgaming-trends-2011/

 

[qubit]

That's only EA's earnings. As an industry PC Gaming is crushing the combined console revenue:

"In almost all countries, PC gaming in one of its many guises is the dominant form of gaming."

United States:

$4.3 billion traditional PC games
$2.6 billion MMO’s

Traditional PC Games including MMOs = $7.9 Billion

$2.8 billion Casual Websites
$1.8 billion Social networks

PC Casual Websites + Social networks = $4.6 Billion

Total PC Revenue = $12.5 Billion

$2.1 billion Mobile devices

All Consoles combined = $8.0 billion

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/07/05/pcgaming-trends-2011/

That's a great find. So why are they crapping on PC gamers so much?

 

[Easy Rhino]

That's a great find. So why are they crapping on PC gamers so much?

because it is way easier to organize these types of events using a single platform.

 

[qubit]

because it is way easier to organize these types of events using a single platform.

I don't think that's a reasonable excuse for multi-million dollar companies.

 

[digibucc]

I don't think that's a reasonable excuse for multi-million dollar companies.

when you're talking about multi-million dollar tournaments i think it is. if it cost that much just for consoles, how much would adding pcs in cost? even with infrastructure i'd say at least as much, probably more.

there is no denying pcs are more complicated, require more time, and are easier to manipulate to your advantage. i am sure there will be PLENTY of pc tournaments, and dice will probably sponsor one or more - but this one is console only. this company that is actually running it, ONLY runs console tournaments.

i just don't see it as a slap in the face. after the last few years developing the game, let them milk consolers and make some more cash. i got a new gen battlefield game that actually takes advantage of my hardware. i have no complaints.

 

[qubit]

If it costs how much for consoles? The $1.6m is the prize money.

And yes, even with potential extra overheads for the PC I can't see it being unmanageable. After all, PC contests have been held many times before.

 

[Wrigleyvillain]

How did I miss this laughable horseshit earlier? Yeah, sure, buddy, "the gold standard". Six year old hardware and specifically a title that screams impossible-to-ignore performance and visual quality gap between platforms like no other.

But, c'mon, this is the Pres of Gamestop ffs and the operative word is definitely "gold" as in of course this guy is just gonna say whatever keeps bringing it in.

Though I'm also hardly angry or insulted or whatever. Maybe I'm used to boneheaded and short-sighted moves by the likes of these moneygrubbers and, while certainly stupid and unfortunate, it really doesn't affect me at all. At any rate, I'm still going to enjoy BF3 in it's best and true form my PC the same as before. Already am...

 

[Easy Rhino]

How did I miss this laughable horseshit earlier? Yeah, sure, buddy, "the gold standard". Six year old hardware and specifically a title that screams impossible-to-ignore performance and visual quality gap between platforms like no other.

But, c'mon, this is the Pres of Gamestop ffs and the operative word is definitely "gold" as in of course this guy is just gonna say whatever keeps bringing it in.

Though I'm also hardly angry or insulted or whatever. Maybe I'm used to boneheaded and short-sighted moves by the likes of these moneygrubbers and, while certainly stupid and unfortunate, it really doesn't affect me at all. At any rate, I'm still going to enjoy BF3 on my PC the same as before. Already am...

that's just it. consoles are easy money. why this surprises or offends anyone is beyond me.

 

[brandonwh64]

easy rhino is right, consoles make tons cause it plays games without having to update hardware often. PC changes quite often and you need to keep up with better hardware to adapt.

 

[Wrigleyvillain]

Yeah it's not just updating the hardware it's also the myriad hardware configs in a PC to say nothing of all the various software also in the mix. Consoles provide control. I certainly understand why they are the larger platform and also why publishers and developers are more eager to provide them content and support than us but don't somehow try to claim they are a superior gaming experience in any way. They aren't even in the same league esp with BF3. Please.

 

[AsRock]

because it is way easier to organize these types of events using a single platform.

Indeed

I don't think that's a reasonable excuse for multi-million dollar companies.

It's cheaper to do or you don't end up with a multi million doller company.

 

[epicfail]

ive played both betas on console and on pc, the graphics were night and day, kinda hilarious but oh well

 

[qubit]

It's cheaper to do or you don't end up with a multi million doller company.

Indeed it's cheaper, but I still think they could easily have done it and enhanced their profits (sales). However, as neither of us know the inner workings of these companies and all their costs etc, I'm happy to leave it as "the devil is in the details" and leave it at that.

 

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

Indeed it's cheaper, but I still think they could easily have done it and enhanced their profits (sales). However, as neither of us know the inner workings of these companies and all their costs etc, I'm happy to leave it as "the devil is in the details" and leave it at that.

I see the lack of PC's in the tourney as a slap in the face to the competitive community and I am sure most others will see it in the same manner.

 

[qubit]

I see the lack of PC's in the tourney as a slap in the face to the competitive community and I am sure most others will see it in the same manner.

Yup, me too, but if you read through the thread, not everyone agrees with us.

 

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

Yup, me too, but if you read through the thread, not everyone agrees with us.

I think most people of the opinion of "so what" are likely not going to do anything more than casual play, and given how buggy the betas are they likely will get fed up this could be EA's MW2.

 

[techtard]

Is this thing going to have cross-platform play? Will PC players with their mouse+keyboard be allowed in the same servers as XBOX or PS3 users and their controllers and aim-assist?

 

[AsRock]

I see the lack of PC's in the tourney as a slap in the face to the competitive community and I am sure most others will see it in the same manner.

Still waiting for the GR days to come back they had killer tournys for that game then UBI screwed all PC gamers by coming out with GRAW. And still have some of those GR tourny missions to and there much better than most games today.

But i think all so companys don't want you to get stuck playing one game as they want to sell you another version of it ASAP.

Arma 2 tournys are very possible just not like they were in GR as you cannot have them as People v's computer.

 

[digibucc]

Is this thing going to have cross-platform play? Will PC players with their mouse+keyboard be allowed in the same servers as XBOX or PS3 users and their controllers and aim-assist?

no. i really doubt that will ever happen in a AAA title for real competitive fpses. the different controllers really require different play styles, and they don't mix well.